Some think beautiful women have it really hard...

[Zapp Brannigan]

I'm not trying to argue about who has it worse or whatever. In the same way you list problems that ugly people have, I can list problems that attractive people as well that are equally as bad, if not worse. You may not find it to be a problem that the woman you spoke of never gained any real intelligence, but a lot of people would.

The general point is that it's not all rosy, so that picture should stop being painted. We should also not act like it's not something that ugly people contribute to as well.

Out of curiosity, let's see that list.

 

[BillBanneker]

Here's the link to the Reddit comment, for the curious:

vlotyg comments on Coffee cart charges men more to highlight gender pay gap

This really pissed me off, mostly because as far as prejudicial problems go, this is really, really tame compared to what other people have to face.

This was in response to a comment that stated, "I'd rather be a beautiful woman than an average looking man." A ****-storm ensued.




There it is, gentlemen. Beautiful blondes have it hardest because guys simp on them really, really hard. That and because of the phenom of women skating by on their looks whenever they can get away with it, the few that decide to actually put their intelligence to good use get screwed over by the preconceived notion that they'll follow suit. This is a situation that can be easily remedied with entrepreneurship and with persistence, but hey, it's just easier to complain, isn't it?

It's a hard life.

Folks will complain about everything. But they don't have a problem with it works to their advantage.

 

[Ain't That Something]

America is a country of entitlement and victimhood! It's always someone else fault never yours!

 

[RickyGQ]

I love how she accepted all that free shyt cause of how "nice of a person" she is... as if genuinely saying "No, I'm good, but thank you though" is a dikk move...

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

But you didn't know? Everything a pretty girl goes through isn't good. They can have bad days too which means they have it harder than less attractive girls... As someone in the comments said "Keep feeling sorry for yourself. Your "story" is akin to visiting a bunch of starving Africans and telling them "I always get indigestion after going to an all-you-can-eat buffet, my life is so hard!""

He also won't list anything because he's full of shyt and talking out of his ass. "I could make a list.." LOL no you can't. And you won't.

People on here seem to hate your guts, but you often make good points when not bickering.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

The melodramatic nature of the complaint is what pisses me off the most. All smoke and mirrors. It's really insulting and you can tell it was written by a chick that's insecure over the fact that she has it easier than others in life, so she has to join the pity party by saying that she experiences real hardships because guys simp on her or the fact that she gets treated just about the same as any other young person who had worked two weeks at her job would have as someone in his or her early 20's.

Never mind that she's more likely to have a desirable job from being attractive, the money she can save by having guys simp on her. Nope. All of that makes her a victim.

So, you don't think it's a problem that society (ugly and attractive) perpetually breeds people who are, essentially, non-self sufficient and otherwise "aloof"? You don't think that some could truly have a problem with the fact that they grew up thinking one thing about themselves, only to have it be something completely different when they get to a certain stage in life?

Out of curiosity, let's see that list.

- Heightened expectations (socially, academically, sexually, financially, etc.).
- Being seen as more of an object rather than a person
- People hiding reality from you
- If the HR person is someone of the same sex, you are less likely to be hired.
- Being too "attractive" and being outcasted/rejected by peers.
- You have an "obligation" to be nice to people, otherwise you are a "stuck up bytch" or an "arrogant a$$hole", when if you were ugly, it wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't even care to speak to you
- Having your success attributed to your looks and not your merit
- Growing up, those around you focus less on developing you as an actual person
- People only like you and want to be associated with you for shallow reasons

You all have never heard of the "Halo Effect"? That's why it seems like you're more so speaking out your ass because of jealousy/resentment, rather than wanting any true knowledge on what you're talking about.

 

[RickyGQ]

So, you don't think it's a problem that society (ugly and attractive) perpetually breeds people who are, essentially, non-self sufficient and otherwise "aloof"? You don't think that some could truly have a problem with the fact that they grew up thinking one thing about themselves, only to have it be something completely different when they get to a certain stage in life?




- Heightened expectations (socially, academically, sexually, financially, etc.).
- Being seen as more of an object rather than a person
- People hiding reality from you
- If the HR person is someone of the same sex, you are less likely to be hired.
- Being too "attractive" and being outcasted/rejected by peers.
- You have an "obligation" to be nice to people, otherwise you are a "stuck up bytch" or an "arrogant a$$hole", when if you were ugly, it wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't even care to speak to you
- Having your success attributed to your looks and not your merit
- Growing up, those around you focus less on developing you as an actual person
- People only like you and want to be associated with you for shallow reasons

You all have never heard of the "Halo Effect"? That's why it seems like you're more so speaking out your ass because of jealousy/resentment, rather than wanting any true knowledge on what you're talking about.

a couple of these are the same "problems" just worded differently...

 

[DaChampIsHere]

a couple of these are the same "problems" just worded differently...

Which ones? I will explain how they are different/how they apply themselves differently in situations.

 

[Sierra Mist]

So, you don't think it's a problem that society (ugly and attractive) perpetually breeds people who are, essentially, non-self sufficient and otherwise "aloof"? You don't think that some could truly have a problem with the fact that they grew up thinking one thing about themselves, only to have it be something completely different when they get to a certain stage in life?




- Heightened expectations (socially, academically, sexually, financially, etc.).
- Being seen as more of an object rather than a person
- People hiding reality from you
- If the HR person is someone of the same sex, you are less likely to be hired.
- Being too "attractive" and being outcasted/rejected by peers.
- You have an "obligation" to be nice to people, otherwise you are a "stuck up bytch" or an "arrogant a$$hole", when if you were ugly, it wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't even care to speak to you
- Having your success attributed to your looks and not your merit
- Growing up, those around you focus less on developing you as an actual person
- People only like you and want to be associated with you for shallow reasons

You all have never heard of the "Halo Effect"? That's why it seems like you're more so speaking out your ass because of jealousy/resentment, rather than wanting any true knowledge on what you're talking about.

The Halo effect is exactly WHY more attractive people have it easier. You have more opportunity when you are attractive. What you do with that opportunity is up to you. Even if people just see her as a piece of meat, she didn't have that same mentality of "see me for me" when her looks got her the damn job in the first place. At least when you are attractive you have the ability to garner the attention of people and THEN you can show them what you've got and prove yourself. Meanwhile the less attractive woman doesn't even get the chance to "prove" herself.

Being given an opportunity and having to prove yourself>>>>Never having the opportunity nor the ability to prove yourself.
Being given an opportunity to go to a banquet and if you eat too much you get sick>>>>>Never having the opportunity to even eat a warm meal.

 

[Ain't That Something]

- Heightened expectations (socially, academically, sexually, financially, etc.).

((wrong expectations are actually lowered)

- Being seen as more of an object rather than a person

(viable but ugly people are seen as objects too except useless ones)

- People hiding reality from you

(It's not other people responsibility to affirm the reality of your situation whether you look good or not, it's called personal responsibility)

- If the HR person is someone of the same sex, you are less likely to be hired.

(speculations)

- Being too "attractive" and being outcasted/rejected by peers.

(now you str8 talking out ya ass)

- You have an "obligation" to be nice to people, otherwise you are a "stuck up bytch" or an "arrogant a$$hole", when if you were ugly, it wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't even care to speak to you

(Again you talking out ya ass because people naturally gravitate to beauty personality aside, niceness aside)

- Having your success attributed to your looks and not your merit

(viable)
- Growing up, those around you focus less on developing you as an actual person

- People only like you and want to be associated with you for shallow reasons

(Wrong people associate with all people for shallow reasons ex: the pretty chic that keep the ugly chick around to boost her own ego)

You all have never heard of the "Halo Effect"? That's why it seems like you're more so speaking out your ass because of jealousy/resentment, rather than wanting any true knowledge on what you're talking about.

 

[Ohene]

Just gonna spectate...no comment

 

[RickyGQ]

- Being too "attractive" and being outcasted/rejected by peers.
- People only like you and want to be associated with you for shallow reasons

Which is it? Are they outcasted or are they "liked"?

- People hiding reality from you
- Growing up, those around you focus less on developing you as an actual person
- Having your success attributed to your looks and not your merit

All the same point.

- Heightened expectations (socially, academically, sexually, financially, etc.).
- You have an "obligation" to be nice to people, otherwise you are a "stuck up bytch" or an "arrogant a$$hole", when if you were ugly, it wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't even care to speak to you

Same point.

- Being seen as more of an object rather than a person
- If the HR person is someone of the same sex, you are less likely to be hired.

Valid points that can't really be proven (most of this discussion can't to be fair)

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Saw your post when I logged out Sierra (def not taking you off ignore, but...)

The Halo effect in correlation with all the other stuff in here you all have dapped up and agreed with is exactly why you are wrong.

If we all generally acknowledge that attractive people don't have to truly develop skills, personalities, knowledge, etc. because of their looks how do they fare any better in a situation where people expect all of that from them ("Halo Effect")? That's why you all don't make any sense. You're being contradictory.

Fact of the matter is, there are upsides and downsides to both sides of life. That's the way life works in general. Nothing is perfect for anyone.

...

I'm not going to argue with you over opinion. I can find facts to back up what I type. Can you? Or are you just going on what you feel?

 

[Ohene]

The Halo effect is exactly WHY more attractive people have it easier. You have more opportunity when you are attractive. What you do with that opportunity is up to you. Even if people just see her as a piece of meat, she didn't have that same mentality of "see me for me" when her looks got her the damn job in the first place. At least when you are attractive you have the ability to garner the attention of people and THEN you can show them what you've got and prove yourself. Meanwhile the less attractive woman doesn't even get the chance to "prove" herself.

Being given an opportunity and having to prove yourself>>>>Never having the opportunity nor the ability to prove yourself.
Being given an opportunity to go to a banquet and if you eat too much you get sick>>>>>Never having the opportunity to even eat a warm meal.

Just to chime in, if her looks did in fact "get the job" I wonder if she put any effort into her looks when going to the interview. A chick can be beautiful but how many chicks can legitimately wake up, go to an interview or club or whatever without any preparation except for maybe showering and then just putting the clothes on their backs and still look THAT beautiful as opposed to just decent. If she was really bout that life, she woulda done so. All in the name of equality right?

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Which is it? Are they outcasted or are they "liked"?
All the same point.
Same point.
Valid points that can't really be proven (most of this discussion can't to be fair)

1. It will vary person to person. Not every one reacts the same way. Men will generally flock to a woman because of her looks. Women will usually look down on/be jealous of another woman for such.

2. Those are not all the same point.

3. Again, not the same point. Like, you expect a pretty woman to have a nice personality. But in another instance, you may expect her to be obligated to you if you do a favor for her or if you are nice to her. The second instance has nothing to do with personality, but more so compensation for what you did.

4. The second sentence can definitely be proven. And for women, yes, attractive women are seen more so as objects. There are studies that prove it.

Just to chime in, if her looks did in fact "get the job" I wonder if she put any effort into her looks when going to the interview. A chick can be beautiful but how many chicks can legitimately wake up, go to an interview or club or whatever without any preparation except for maybe showering and then just putting the clothes on their backs and still look THAT beautiful as opposed to just decent. If she was really bout that life, she woulda done so. All in the name of equality right?

Do y'all even be talking about? This post ain't nothin' but ramble.