Spin: Why doesn't society ask young men why they've checked out?

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You not being too tough, they just a bunch of mama's boys who been coddled they whole life. I was raised by men, men who were in the military and were in the trades(my dad was a lineman before he became a network engineer, my grandad and uncle were plumbers and HVAC techs(shoutout @cheek100 I know how hard those two masters licenses you got are cause my kinfolk did it.) my other uncle an electrician. Real men who did men's work and did man shyt. Call it toxic all you want but it's the truth, these new dudes not raised that way. Even in my house growing up I had 3 older brothers, no sisters. House full of testosterone. No excuses, either you succeed or you don't cause nobody cares about the excuses. If you get hit, fight back better not run to mama or you gonna get beat harder later. I don't feel sorry for these new dudes complaining about not being able to find work when construction sites, trucking companies, etc etc are all vastly understaffed and desperate for help. I hear all the time from UNEMPLOYED YOUNG MEN 'I don't want to do that.' And it honestly DISGUSTS me. What's a better option, being unemployed at your parents house? Men do WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. Only a woman or children talk about what they want to do, as a man you don't have that option. Get your ass up and get it, I'm tired of seeing women outhustling these young men out here, it's fukking pitiful.

This the entitlement some of these nikkaz have is nuts. I have a cousin who wants to be a chef and I was telling he might have to do something like become a dish washer at a restaurant and work his way up. The nikka looked at me like it was beneath him. Meanwhile I was looking at him like this nikka got no job can’t pay his rent and his mom is helping pay it even though she don’t live there.

nikka thinks he should be chef Ramsey status because he completed school. But this is what happens when you raised by a single mother and not by an active father in the household. My father wouldn’t allow me to do that he had my ass working at 15 told a nikka start pounding the pavement.
 

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This the entitlement some of these nikkaz have is nuts. I have a cousin who wants to be a chef and I was telling he might have to do something like become a dish washer at a restaurant and work his way up. The nikka looked at me like it was beneath him. Meanwhile I was looking at him like this nikka got no job can’t pay his rent and his mom is helping pay it even though she don’t live there.

nikka thinks he should be chef Ramsey status because he completed school.

Wild because Chef Ramsey started off washing dishes and being a prep cook at a French Restaurant.
 

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This is also true as well. When you are unemployed a job is a job. There's a difference between employed men who cant afford anything to unemployed men who refuse to work until they can find a better opportunity

Even if you are employed, find a way. I've worked two jobs and hustled before to make it happen. Dolph told you already 'Never hear me complain about what I aint got, cause if I want it I'MA GO GET IT!!!'
 

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No we're not fukked. I think a marriage of the two ideas must happen. You can be stern but empathetic. We want these brehs to succeed and grow. We expect great things out of them. But we must be aware not to push them too hard. Sharpen don't break. We are human just like women are human. But we can function at a different level than women can and vice versa. We need to find that level and hone it. Like an arrow.




Great posting.
 

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Because work and only work is not fulfilling. Individualism has peaked and it's nothing left but the void. And young people have figured that out.
So being a streamer or influencer is better? Which a lot of them would rather do. We got too many of those.
 

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This the entitlement some of these nikkaz have is nuts. I have a cousin who wants to be a chef and I was telling he might have to do something like become a dish washer at a restaurant and work his way up. The nikka looked at me like it was beneath him. Meanwhile I was looking at him like this nikka got no job can’t pay his rent and his mom is helping pay it even though she don’t live there.

nikka thinks he should be chef Ramsey status because he completed school. But this is what happens when you raised by a single mother and not by an active father in the household. My father wouldn’t allow me to do that he had my ass working at 15 told a nikka start pounding the pavement.

If I went to and graduated from school to be a mechanical engineer and you told me I had to get a job picking up spare parts off the floor and work my way up, I'd look at you like you're stupid too. :mjtf:


Now that's different than saying, "I get that's there no jobs for a chef out here, but you're not gonna just be here broke and bumming off of us". He can volunteer, start a food truck, create a youtube channel, cook for people who can't cook for themselves, or all of the above. But treating mom's like welfare ain't gonna cut it.
 

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If I went to and graduated from school to be a mechanical engineer and you told me I had to get a job picking up spare parts off the floor and work my way up, I'd look at you like you're stupid too. :mjtf:


Now that's different than saying, "I get that's there no jobs for a chef out here, but you're not gonna just be here broke and bumming off of us". He can volunteer, start a food truck, create a youtube channel, cook for people who can't cook for themselves, or all of the above. But treating mom's like welfare ain't gonna cut it.
If I went to and graduated from school to be a mechanical engineer and you told me I had to get a job picking up spare parts off the floor and work my way up, I'd look at you like you're stupid too. :mjtf:


Now that's different than saying, "I get that's there no jobs for a chef out here, but you're not gonna just be here broke and bumming off of us". He can volunteer, start a food truck, create a youtube channel, cook for people who can't cook for themselves, or all of the above. But treating mom's like welfare ain't gonna cut it.
He don’t want to do none of that he wants to be a chef at at a 5 Star restaurant. I get what you’re saying but you never know where an opportunity can take you. Everyone has to start somewhere.
 

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This the entitlement some of these nikkaz have is nuts. I have a cousin who wants to be a chef and I was telling he might have to do something like become a dish washer at a restaurant and work his way up. The nikka looked at me like it was beneath him. Meanwhile I was looking at him like this nikka got no job can’t pay his rent and his mom is helping pay it even though she don’t live there.

nikka thinks he should be chef Ramsey status because he completed school. But this is what happens when you raised by a single mother and not by an active father in the household. My father wouldn’t allow me to do that he had my ass working at 15 told a nikka start pounding the pavement.

My girls nephew and I are kinda close since he didn't have a dad growing up and they whole family(from her grandmama down to the children) respects me... because I act like a man and carry myself like one. He had tried to disrespect his uncle(his biological uncle not me) by saying you can't tell me nothing you locked up bruh, which was true his uncle was locked up and had been for most of his life. My nephew sits around playing PS5 all day with his friends fukking off good job opportunities, but wonders why they don't respect him. His uncle got out about two years ago though and guess what, within 6 months had two jobs was out living on his own AND was sending his mama money to help pay her rent every month, with all them felonies... meanwhile nephew got a clean jacket. His granny and his mama and my girl all get on his ass now saying he need to be like his uncles(me and her brother) and stop being sorry as hell and he hates it but he needed to hear it. Now he working two jobs and shyt which is good he and many other young men need to get they ass up and do something with their lives and stop feeling sorry for themselves.
 

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Women not being submissive
Men not making enough money
Men are the biggest cheaters
Women have nothing to offer but coochie
Men don’t know how to to communicate properly
Women are not accountable
Men are not accountable
Single Fathers are dead beats.
Single Mothers are ruining Boys and Girls for dating

Women not being submissive
Submissive how? What does this idea even mean? Are relationships primarily about dominance and submission? These are hierarchical terms taken from the study of animals like wolves...

Men not making enough money
Women are expecting men to make enough money to do what exactly? Buy a home and support a family? With more women in the workforce than ever, they should be more sensitive to the cost of things and understand that we no longer live in an economy where one person can be the breadwinner except in a few circumstances.

Men are the biggest cheaters
This is probably true. It has roots in biology. But also, studies have shown that men are more likely to cheat when they feel inadequate as a man in their households. Part of that comes with an inability to provide.

Women have nothing to offer but coochie
Isn't this only determined by what you're looking for and who you decide to date? If you aren't looking to start a family or companionship and are looking only for sex, then yes, they will have nothing to offer. All women have something to offer besides just coochie but you may not be looking for anything besides that or want what they are offering.

Men don’t know how to to communicate properly

Men communicate differently. Once again, biological differences. Both sexes have different hormones circulating through their bodies that alter their brain chemistry. Fundamentally, we communicate differently. This was widely accepted in the past, yet now in the modern day, people have trouble understanding that?

Women are not accountable
Most people aren't

Men are not accountable
Most people aren't.

Single Fathers are dead beats.
Lol, even though we have the statistics backing up that black men are the most involved in their kids' lives. No, they are just broke most of the time.

Single Mothers are ruining Boys and Girls for dating
How so exactly?
 

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Even if you are employed, find a way. I've worked two jobs and hustled before to make it happen. Dolph told you already 'Never hear me complain about what I aint got, cause if I want it I'MA GO GET IT!!!'
This is where I disagree. You begrudgingly do it. Yes. But this is not something to be normalized or be proud of. There's more to life than working. We live the wealthiest country in the world yet people have to work 80 hours to put a roof over their heads? That's ridiculous. Grinding that much because you want to get ahead should be a choice not a necessity. Im not advocating not working hard or less but if a man puts in 40 hours a week, he has paid his dues to society and should be able to afford to have a family and be respected is all I'm saying.
 
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