Steph Curry may be unstoppable but is there another way to defend him

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That's playing with fire the cave don't have the offense to shoot it out imo. I think lue will play the splash bros straight up and probably look to try and muck it up with green. I think if you can get green to be over emotional make that anger of his a negative instead of a positive.:francis:

Cavs offense is probably the best Warriors will face these playoffs. That lineup of Bron, Frye, Delly, Shump and RJ has been better than the Warriors death lineup so far.

Cavs can definitely put up points, but I don't think they want a fast paced game esp in Golden State, efficiency >>> volume for them.
 

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One thing i agree with Oscar Robertson about, defenses are not being creative or adjustiting to make it difficult for GS. Teams need to mix up their defensive schemes. Throw a zone in. Full court press some time.

I even like the switching, just in doses. When the switch occurs, the defender cannot even allow a 3 point attempt. Force both Klay and Steph to drive. It's pretty simple really. Sit on their right shoulder and force a dribble drive into help. Do not play them straight up. I actually would prefer them to drive into help.

I would play them like score is 10-9 going to 11 and they can beat me with 2 pointer. No threes. While it is counterintuitive to allow drives, Klay and Stephen are more efficient shooting 3s than they are shooting 2s.

You can't switch haphazardly though. All players have to be on the same thought process when it comes to switching or it's pretty much a wide open 3 for self if you're late.
 

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Klay and Steph were among the league leaders in FG% in the paint.


The Raptors tried that kind of thing with the Cavs in game 1 & 2, they overplayed the three point line and it resulted in the Cavs hitting more than 50% of their shots.
Completely different scenario. The threes that the Cavs got were based on Bron being doubled in the post and finding the open shooters. Had absolutely nothing to do with knocking the Cavs off the three point line.

Look at the gif below. KAT was not allowing Curry to shoot the 3. He sits on one side of Curry, forcing him to drive. This allows Kat to decide where Curry is driving, which is an important point. The defender can dictate what the offense does. I get sick and tired of the idea that "what can you do if he's just knocking down crazy shot?" that I hear all the time. Do something different!!!!!!!

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Completely different scenario. The threes that the Cavs got were based on Bron being doubled in the post and finding the open shooters. Had absolutely nothing to do with knocking the Cavs off the three point line.

Look at the gif below. KAT was not allowing Curry to shoot the 3. He sits on one side of Curry, forcing him to drive. This allows Kat to decide where Curry is driving, which is an important point. The defender can dictate what the offense does. I get sick and tired of the idea that "what can you do if he's just knocking down crazy shot?" that I hear all the time. Do something different!!!!!!!

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I was talking about shooting percentage, the Raptors overplayed the 3 point line in the first two games trying to take away the 3 pointer and the Cavs shot over 50% from the field, they didn't make many threes but still scored a ton because they were living in the lane.

Only 1 team in the league has KAT :ld: asking bigs to switch out onto Curry is too much, for every successful clip you show of one doing it, I can show you 10 clips, one instance of success doesn't erase the 30 failures by other bigs before it. He absolutely destroyed Anthony Davis in switches last year.
 

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Completely different scenario. The threes that the Cavs got were based on Bron being doubled in the post and finding the open shooters. Had absolutely nothing to do with knocking the Cavs off the three point line.

Look at the gif below. KAT was not allowing Curry to shoot the 3. He sits on one side of Curry, forcing him to drive. This allows Kat to decide where Curry is driving, which is an important point. The defender can dictate what the offense does. I get sick and tired of the idea that "what can you do if he's just knocking down crazy shot?" that I hear all the time. Do something different!!!!!!!

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This man...decide defensively which side you are going to send him and stick with it...don't try to recover and square him up..especially big men ..stay on his hip and live with that..it's better to have him beat you off the dribble and shoot pull up 2's vs trying to square him up and keep him in front at the 3pt line...
 

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You can't switch haphazardly though. All players have to be on the same thought process when it comes to switching or it's pretty much a wide open 3 for self if you're late.
That is true. Last night, the Thunder were switching at times when it wasnt necessary. Led to open threes for Klay.

I was talking about shooting percentage, the Raptors overplayed the 3 point line in the first two games trying to take away the 3 pointer and the Cavs shot over 50% from the field, they didn't make many threes but still scored a ton because they were living in the lane.

Only 1 team in the league has KAT :ld: asking bigs to switch out onto Curry is too much, for every successful clip you show of one doing it, I can show you 10 clips, one instance of success doesn't erase the 30 failures by other bigs before it. He absolutely destroyed Anthony Davis in switches last year.

Im not talking KAT, Im talking his defensive philosophy on the play. KAT had no concern about Steph driving by him. His only concern was stopping Steph from shooting a 3. KAT did not back up from the 3 point line until after curry had already got below it. Look at this clip below of Tristan Thompson guarding Steph last year. It ends up with a Steph layup because for some odd reason, J.R. Smith is locked up with David Lee and fails to be the appropriate help side defender. But this is how Steph and Klay should be guarded until further notice.

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slippery slope,, traditionally thats why everyone considered green the playmaker cause often on that curry green pnr, if u trap curry, green then has a 4 on 3 dive to the basket, with shooters on both wings....cavs did a lot of switching last year, and tristan was somewhat commended for his defense on steph after the switch..
Tristan actually did pretty well all things considered. They definitely didn't lose cause lack of PnR defense
 

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Cleveland adopted this strategy last year and, while it made Bogut damn near unplayable, it fell apart once Draymond got his act together and David Lee started getting more PT.

Channing Frye and Kevin Love will be the real X factors for Cleveland. If they can't provide any resistance next to Thompson it's a wrap
 

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Cavs offense is probably the best Warriors will face these playoffs. That lineup of Bron, Frye, Delly, Shump and RJ has been better than the Warriors death lineup so far.

Cavs can definitely put up points, but I don't think they want a fast paced game esp in Golden State, efficiency >>> volume for them.
That defense though


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Cavs offense is probably the best Warriors will face these playoffs. That lineup of Bron, Frye, Delly, Shump and RJ has been better than the Warriors death lineup so far.

Cavs can definitely put up points, but I don't think they want a fast paced game esp in Golden State, efficiency >>> volume for them.
This. That's the point I was trying to make the Cavs don't want a shootout I would prefer them to slow shyt down and muck it up with green and bogut get one or both of them to mentally check out.
 

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Honestly the idea that OKCs bigs did a horrible job of staying in front of Curry is false. He crossed them a couple times last night and got clean looks, but if you go back and watch a lot of his shots, they actually did a good job of contesting and getting a hand up. He just makes everything
This...

You gotta keep someone up in his grill, or make him work on defense. (Kyrie can at least do the latter)
 
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One thing i agree with Oscar Robertson about, defenses are not being creative or adjustiting to make it difficult for GS. Teams need to mix up their defensive schemes. Throw a zone in. Full court press some time.

I even like the switching, just in doses. When the switch occurs, the defender cannot even allow a 3 point attempt. Force both Klay and Steph to drive. It's pretty simple really. Sit on their right shoulder and force a dribble drive into help. Do not play them straight up. I actually would prefer them to drive into help.

I would play them like score is 10-9 going to 11 and they can beat me with 2 pointer. No threes. While it is counterintuitive to allow drives, Klay and Stephen are more efficient shooting 3s than they are shooting 2s.
This is factually wrong.

If you think teams haven't tried everything under the sun to contain him than you either haven't watched enough GS games over the last two seasons or are simply not willing to acknowledge the Warriors' adjustments. Well actually I take that back, there's one ploy I haven't seen yet and that's having two players attached to Curry wherever he goes, on every possession. But we already know what [lack of] success that had in the past -

 
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