Stephen A Smith: Tyrese Haliburton is NOT a superstar

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Why should the “casual American” dictate who the superstars are? By that criteria, Caitlin Clark is the only superstar in the WNBA.

ANGEL REESE IS A SUPERSTAR.

SO YEA ITS JUST CLARK AND REESE.

COMPANIES MARKET TO CASUALS
NOT DIE HARDS
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THE CASUAL AMERICAN DOESNT
GIVE 2 shytS ABOUT JOKER NOR SGA.

THEY'RE NOT SUPERSTARS.

YOU GOTTA CROSSOVER
TO BE A SUPERSTAR.

ITS LIKE COMPARING
MIKE TROUT TO KEN GRIFFEY.

BOTH GREAT PLAYERS BUT
ONLY ONE WAS A SUPERSTAR
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I agree but Mike Trout was a superstar he just kept getting hurt

He didn't talk alot but when you watched him play he was a flat out superstar

Just add a little more nuance is all I'm sayin
 

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I agree but Mike Trout was a superstar he just kept getting hurt

He didn't talk alot but when you watched him play he was a flat out superstar

Just add a little more nuance is all I'm sayin

HE WAS A GREAT PLAYER...
HE WASN'T A SUPERSTAR.

HE COULD WALK DOWN
THE STREET AT HIS PEAK
AND NO ONE WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM.

KEN GRIFFEY CANT WALK
AROUND IN 2025 WITHOUT
DRAWING A CROWD
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I disagree. Sometimes, your play and accomplishments supercede whatever the “box office” may show. Jokic is a superstar (3x MVP and champion; many regard him as the best player in the NBA). SGA is entering that territory (3 straight 30ppg seasons, 2x #1 seed, MVP on the verge of the Finals). Haliburton is not there yet.

How can your accomplishments make you a superstar if people don't know what you accomplished or who you are?

You can be a star of your sport and not be a superstar. If your stardom does not extend beyond fans of your sport or business then you are not a superstar. Taylor Swift is a superstar, everyone knows who she is. Lainey Wilson is not.

Ken Grriffey Jr. was a superstar. Dale Murphy was not. One of those players is a 2 time MVP. I'll let you guess which one.
 

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ANGEL REESE IS A SUPERSTAR.

SO YEA ITS JUST CLARK AND REESE.

COMPANIES MARKET TO CASUALS
NOT DIE HARDS
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So you’re saying popularity is the only thing that determines superstar status? Angel is my girl, but she isn’t a top five or top ten player in the league.

I saw earlier you said Duncan wasn’t a superstar and I disagree with that as well. If you’re a top 3 player in the entire league, you’re a superstar by default.
 

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These definitions have been conveniently inconsistent over the years. When people say superstar in an NBA context, which they casually say all the time, they're often talking about performance. Duncan and Jokic are referred to as superstars. Even Donovan Mitchell and Brunson get that superstar label.

Then people want to redefine and combine it with upper echelon off the court popularity (or come up with new terms like megastar) often times to elevate their favorite or preferred players over those that routinely bust their ass (pause)... so Allen Iverson or Carmelo Anthony are superstars but Duncan and Dirk were not.

It's honestly whatever makes ppl sleep better, as Hali don't need to be a "superstar" anymore than Duncan; your big market team and superstar player still gotta deal with him bustin they ass and taking their Finals spot.
 

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He is not a superstar, he is too corny, unlikable and inconsistent. He will turn it on in the fourth but he don't dominate like a Bron or Kobe. He is just a good player in a good system.

A star but not a superstar. Case in point put him in Rucker park or on another team and see what he does versus if you did the same to a KD. KD would take over and give you 30+ if he needs too.
 
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