Stevie Wonder defends Bruno Mars

[SouthSac916]

No its his opinion, however considering he is one of the architects of the very same genre YOU TAKING CLAIM OVER.......his opinion should hold some weight.

Well hold on now. I don’t really claim the genre for myself personally, but it is rooted in African gospel music. Stevie was apart of making the genre popular, he is not an architect. This genre is old and has its roots in West Africa. In the way it is sung, the drum patterns and even the dance. Brought here by African slaves and carried over into English when African Americans were forced to learn another language. Stevie is part of era that performed it around the world and benefited the most, but Nat Cole, Duke Ellington and etc put in work for Stevie to be where he is at.

 

[SouthSac916]

And let’s be clear Puerto Rican’s are African and have African traits in their culture.

 

[Gravity]

Say what you will but that one sista who made this subject poppin’ had a point. It’s as if black American culture is too easily accessible for any group without their being any (black) gatekeepers. Would a black person be able to go to the Philippines and tell them about their culture and customs? Hell naw, they would run our black ass out so fast it wouldn’t be funny. We can’t use the excuse “Oh, well, I appreciate your culture and culture is for everyone”. But for some reason our culture is something everyone can just take on and off like a mask. I love Stevie Wonder down but he’s tap dancing a bit and really needs to look at this critically.

This is what happens when you don’t have ownership of your “culture”. The music industry is owned by whites and blacks sell out their musical cultures and influences in return for individual financial compensation from whites who run the music industry. Whites who run the music game have no obligation to uphold and maintain the integrity of the music/culture so all of this whining and complaining about “appropriation” is a waste of time. You black liberals are just playing yourselves.

The only valid point that the coli poster made was in pointing out that whites would rather hear “black music” from non blacks. All that other shyt she said about Bruno was just emotional irrational nonsense rooted in hurt feelings and low self esteem. It was low key c00ning because all that she was doing was crying because Bruno is more accepted than she is. Instead of being mad at whites who prop people like Bruno up because they would rather support him over black artists, she took it out on Bruno as if it’s his fault. No Bruno certainly doesn’t need to be defended, but that’s the position she put blacks in by going off on that nonsensical rant. That’s why the media picked up her rant and blew it up, they know that her point was invalid and basically just a deflection from white supremacy.

If we’re going to get mad at anyone, it should be ourselves for selling out.
We should be satisfied staying “local”, being supported by our own instead of selling our souls to be accepted and supported by the mainstream.

 

[SouthSac916]

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this bruno mars thing is dumb
shea butter twitter whas nothing better to do
be mad at his writers, producers and band (ALL BLACK) if you really that mad

it is not dumb. It’s an opportunity to correct her if he is wrong or correct her critics if they are wrong. I’m glad she spoke up. Can’t dismiss people like that bruh.

 

[ThaEruditious]

He doesn’t speak for every black musician from his time period. Nor does he represent the new generation of r and b. He say so is not final.

80% of them don't have no say in shyt. This generation of R&B isn't that good and ain't no White man putting them down excuse bout to fly either. It's a small handful of nikkas in R&B that are dope and creative in 2018 and it's not even their era he's being critized for, so they have no say in anything.

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

He doesn’t speak for every black musician from his time period. Nor does he represent the new generation of r and b. He say so is not final.

Still failing to see what your point is. He's my goat, and I only said he's correct because I agree with him. My post earlier was in response to dumb asses saying his opinion is meaningless because he is blind.

 

[MikeyC]

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[Spiritual Stratocaster]

You mean to tell me yall are whining over the online "mistreatment" of Bruno Mars on behalf of black people everywhere?

Lawd hammercy

I'm not whining...all this fuss over his music is childish...focus all that energy on hoe ass timberlake or something..the case against Bruno is weak, it's just people mad just to be mad.

 

[SouthSac916]

This is what happens when you don’t have ownership of your “culture”. The music industry is owned by whites and blacks sell out their musical cultures and influences in return for individual financial compensation from whites who run the music industry. Whites who run the music game have no obligation to uphold and maintain the integrity of the music/culture so all of this whining and complaining about “appropriation” is a waste of time. You black liberals are just playing yourselves.

The only valid point that the coli poster made was in pointing out that whites would rather hear “black music” from non blacks. All that other shyt she said about Bruno was just emotional irrational nonsense rooted in hurt feelings and low self esteem. It was low key c00ning because all that she was doing was crying because Bruno is more accepted than she is. Instead of being mad at whites who prop people like Bruno up because they would rather support him over black artists, she took it out on Bruno as if it’s his fault. No Bruno certainly doesn’t need to be defended, but that’s the position she put blacks in by going off on that nonsensical rant. That’s why the media picked up her rant and blew it up, they know that her point was invalid and basically just a deflection from white supremacy.

If we’re going to get mad at anyone, it should be ourselves for selling out.
We should be satisfied staying “local”, being supported by our own instead of selling our souls to be accepted and supported by the mainstream.

Partially agree, but let’s revisit Frank Lyman and Ray Charles. Two great artist getting roped finiacial. Fast forward to young thug and Kodak who are both in the same positions. Lyor is doing poor black males the same way. Lyman and Charles had to abide cause of Jim Crow. Now Kodak and Thug cause of mass incarceration. Both used to manipulate African American culture. Not our faults.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

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[SouthSac916]

80% of them don't have no say in shyt. This generation of R&B isn't that good and ain't no White man putting them down excuse bout to fly either. It's a small handful of nikkas in R&B that are dope and creative in 2018 and it's not even their era he's being critized for, so they have no say in anything.

Who is determining what is good tho? Who controls that? I don’t believe that’s coming from those that have traditionally created this music.

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Because it's stupid as fukk and highkey is making black people to seem like crybabies crying over some nonsense like this when there are more important matters at hand.

Of course his music is influenced by the artists he listens to and loves..and they happen to be black, he doesn't hide that fact.

lol people always say "there are more important issues" like they are getting fixed

The point ain't even Bruno specifically. It's just the reality that non black people get praise for imitating black rebellion/attitude. We can make this stuff all day but let someone else literally copy it, not even expand on it, and it's a hit. Our counter culture is their pop and it's a symptom of racism.

 

[Pit Bull]

This ain't nothin new though. These c00ns been given out passes for over 100 years. nikkas gave Elvis a pass. Tap dancers was probably giving them black face minstrel show cacs passes.

 

[Gravity]

Partially agree, but let’s revisit Frank Lyman and Ray Charles. Two great artist getting roped finiacial. Fast forward to young thug and Kodak who are both in the same positions. Lyor is doing poor black males the same way. Lyman and Charles had to abide cause of Jim Crow. Now Kodak and Thug cause of mass incarceration. Both used to manipulate African American culture. Not our faults.

Well if you don’t think that there is anything that WE can do to overcome systematic white supremacy, then just go kill yourself now and get it over with because you’ve already given up on life.

 

[8WON6]

I just don't understand why people online are rushing to this lesbian lookin motherfukker's defense like they're on the payroll or something.

He'll be alright

This is what I don't get. I like a few of his songs, but I'm also right there recognizing his appropriation. He's clearly biting black music and more importantly he's pushed ahead of other black male R&B artists because he isn't black. But yeah, people really out here like: