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Takeover (At Least the Nas Verse) Was One of The Weakest Diss Tracks Ever
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pez
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I never saw the Camel resemblance until the song and I have never gotten over it. I am a Jay-Z fan too but there were too many exposures. How many of Big's lines came out of Jay's lips? No moustache, having whiskers like a rat? Damn. Wow, KRS really already have an album Blueprint. The boss of Rocafella still answered to Def Jam (Queens bred Russell Simmons). Damn.
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Eastside Get The Money
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I’m a fan of The Doors but even Ye couldn’t make that a hot beat. And living in the Midwest being 11 at that time I remember downloading that Hot 97 interview when Jay was crying
And just so you know who won people still say you got ethered no one says you got taken over
I'll never forget when one of my old friends in middle school spent our whole class one day juelzing about how Takeover was better than Ether
Jay had more swag ( for context he was telling me this in 07
)than Nas
Jay was slicker with his punches he didn't even have to say Nas' name
Nas went too far on Ether. It wasn't a good song. Jay won
The Nas diss verse on Takeover really was light in retrospect
But that Ether still burns slow to this day
Jay had more swag ( for context he was telling me this in 07
)than NasJay was slicker with his punches he didn't even have to say Nas' name
Nas went too far on Ether. It wasn't a good song. Jay won
The Nas diss verse on Takeover really was light in retrospect
But that Ether still burns slow to this day
Only on The Coli is there this narrative that “takeover” wasn’t a hot record
Carry on
Carry on
Slim Charles
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Carmen Bryant claims she told Nas to go at Jay’s insecurities. That may or not be true, but that’s what Nas did and that shyt went deeper than any talk of money, career or status like takeover. Takeover is a nice diss track but its disses are surface level.
Nas went for Jay’s ego, confidence and vulnerabilities. Those sort of disses hit different Nas went straight for breh’s soul and talked down on him like a little kid
Nas went for Jay’s ego, confidence and vulnerabilities. Those sort of disses hit different Nas went straight for breh’s soul and talked down on him like a little kid
pez
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You guys probably weren't there for it but Hot 97 used to do this Friday night "Battle of the Beats" and they did the vote for the songs with a vote for the winner. Jay-Z had Angie and a lot of other Hot 97 people in his pocket. He timed it so he was in the elevator coming up into the studio when the winner was going to be announced. Angie was like Jigga on the way up! And then they announced the winner and it was... Nas!
Jay-Z comes out the elevator and it was clear he was blindsided and couldn't talk straight. He was mad homotional. This was brutal to listen to him mumble. A 30+ year old man talkin' bout how his Mom said he went too far and yadda yadda yadda. MF, you thought you were gonna come in there to have a victory parade. Humble pie all over him.
The Rap Pact: How Jay Z and Hot 97 Combined Forces to Take Over Hip-Hop
"Once Jay rebutted with “Super Ugly,” the station staged a Battle of the Beats-like contest between the two records on Angie Martinez’s afternoon show. “Ether” won with approximately 60 percent of the listener vote. Martinez made the announcement as Jay arrived for a scheduled appearance, and despite the result he stuck around for an interview. He sounded dazed, almost on the verge of tears. “Me, as a guy, I listened to the last verse [of “Ether”] like, wow, like, wow, you know what I’m saying, it’s just, it’s uneasy, you know,” he said. “It’s, it’s, it’s hard, man. It’s very vulgar.” Only Angie Martinez could have scored that interview."
"Hot 97 thrived on the conflict. A segment was renamed “The Takeover” in which DJ’s and listeners weighed in on the records and the beef and the insoluble question of who was the better MC. It was good content. Good for business. “Our job was to get ratings,” Cipha Sounds says. “Beef was just a way of getting more people to listen. It was all business.”
Though the tension waned throughout 2002, Nas intended to reignite the beef during his headlining slot at that year’s Summer Jam. He planned to hang a life-size animatronic doll painted to look like Jay Z—there were gallows and everything. When the station refused to allow it, Nas walked. Was Hot 97 finally siding with Jay Z? Did their shared history factor into foiling Nas’ plans? “I don’t think so,” says Mister Cee. “It had to do with Nas bringing that apparatus onstage, that was the concern from the station.”
The fallout was brisk: Nas appeared that evening on rival Power 105, where he dissed Flex, Martinez, and, naturally, accused Hot 97 of favoritism. “You gonna tell Nas, me, myself, what I cannot do on a Summer Jam stage when it’s been done—the same acts have been done?” he said, referring to Jay’s disses from the previous year. “Then I dropped the ‘Ether’ napalm bomb, and their whole crew was running like roaches. And now you got that station over there crying because he lost.”"
Jay-Z comes out the elevator and it was clear he was blindsided and couldn't talk straight. He was mad homotional. This was brutal to listen to him mumble. A 30+ year old man talkin' bout how his Mom said he went too far and yadda yadda yadda. MF, you thought you were gonna come in there to have a victory parade. Humble pie all over him.
The Rap Pact: How Jay Z and Hot 97 Combined Forces to Take Over Hip-Hop
"Once Jay rebutted with “Super Ugly,” the station staged a Battle of the Beats-like contest between the two records on Angie Martinez’s afternoon show. “Ether” won with approximately 60 percent of the listener vote. Martinez made the announcement as Jay arrived for a scheduled appearance, and despite the result he stuck around for an interview. He sounded dazed, almost on the verge of tears. “Me, as a guy, I listened to the last verse [of “Ether”] like, wow, like, wow, you know what I’m saying, it’s just, it’s uneasy, you know,” he said. “It’s, it’s, it’s hard, man. It’s very vulgar.” Only Angie Martinez could have scored that interview."
"Hot 97 thrived on the conflict. A segment was renamed “The Takeover” in which DJ’s and listeners weighed in on the records and the beef and the insoluble question of who was the better MC. It was good content. Good for business. “Our job was to get ratings,” Cipha Sounds says. “Beef was just a way of getting more people to listen. It was all business.”
Though the tension waned throughout 2002, Nas intended to reignite the beef during his headlining slot at that year’s Summer Jam. He planned to hang a life-size animatronic doll painted to look like Jay Z—there were gallows and everything. When the station refused to allow it, Nas walked. Was Hot 97 finally siding with Jay Z? Did their shared history factor into foiling Nas’ plans? “I don’t think so,” says Mister Cee. “It had to do with Nas bringing that apparatus onstage, that was the concern from the station.”
The fallout was brisk: Nas appeared that evening on rival Power 105, where he dissed Flex, Martinez, and, naturally, accused Hot 97 of favoritism. “You gonna tell Nas, me, myself, what I cannot do on a Summer Jam stage when it’s been done—the same acts have been done?” he said, referring to Jay’s disses from the previous year. “Then I dropped the ‘Ether’ napalm bomb, and their whole crew was running like roaches. And now you got that station over there crying because he lost.”"
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pez
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"Damn, you on Jaz's dikk". People don't know. Jay-Z used to called himself "Jazzy" because of "Jaz-O".
"dikk riding fakkit who loves the attention" hits hard. Too much truth. That thread about it still going strong.
YakSpiller
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The mental image of Jay Z getting chased thru his building 
My favorite part of the song.
My favorite part of the song.
It wasn't that great. At the time when it dropped and I was a kid it was wild though. Just because I LOVED Mobb Deep and Nas and never heard any real rap battle like this before. But looking back Mobb Deep had some of their biggest hits ever afterwards and Nas dropped Stillmatic. Plus this New Drink Champs interview with MC Serch shows Jay was just making up stuff:
The line was hilarious. But the truth is this was the picture:
Dude is a little kid and it looks more like Michael Jackson. Not dude dressed in ballerina clothes...