Tech Industry job layoffs looking scary

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What?! I have heard folks say this in the past. But I’m curious, can you give an example?

I'll give an example of how I would approach it for someone who lives in Southern California, starting at zero. You can modify to fit location and experience.

Enroll at Santa Monica College (or similar), complete the Calculus sequence, Discrete Math, and Linear Algebra.

If you're particularly driven or good at math, sign up for individual classes at UCLA/UC Irvine/UCSD, you do not need to be an admitted student to take individual classes.

For example. After completing Linear Algebra at SMC, sign up for Math 109 at UCSD (or the equivalent at UCI/UCLA if allowed). This opens the door to upper division courses. Can possibly take advanced linear algebra, number theory, or abstract algebra while still at SMC.

Transfer to a four-year, target UCB/UCI/UCLA/UCSD/UCSB, but UC Santa Cruz, Cal Poly, etc. would be great as well.

Look for any and every research and engineering opportunity. You want to actually research and build shyt, not mess around.

You can take one or two classes a quarter and get through this in a few years, again, long game. Use your summer and winter quarters.

The math and research is key; you can major in any type of engineering or even in something like economics.

Want me to keep going?

There isn't a lack of information, most people just don't execute.

Have you invented anything? Do you write code at all?

Yes. Yes.

What are your favorite languages?

C++, Python, and Go.
 

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around 2015/2016 this British dude who sat across from me at the gig spent all his free time studying AI and working on AI/machine learning projects
At the time there was talk around AI but i'm not sure many were taking it seriously, seemed more like a research thing. What could be in the far off future type of subject
So I largely looked at dude like he was working on some hobbyist shyt. Like people who do Pi builds. Like it's tech and you can use it....but nobody really gives a fukk.
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Assuming he kept up with it I'm sure it's hella useful to him now. Can't remember his last name to look him up on linkedin but I wonder if he leveraged all that free time he poured into AI to get into the space

Those guys can go one of two ways though. If they actually dig into the math and get serious about research (usually requires academia or industry, can be done without but risky), it can go well.

If they are just tinkering, could be a mess. Depends on the person.

Would love to hear more if you ever find him.
 

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What exactly are all these tech people going to do now? All that coding and shyt isn’t going to transfer into any other specialty now that AI is doing it 100x better and for free
You're gonna work more like a technical pm than an engineer. They eventually gonna phase out the TPM's and turn engineers into agent managers (TPM's). Then they gonna trim that once the systems are up and running. You're still gonna have to be able to put together agent flows and do a small bit of coding here and there to connect systems and maintenance work here and there but eventually your team of 8 engineers prolly becomes a single WITCH contractor and maybe a single FTE who is likely already the team lead. :francis:
 
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What exactly are all these tech people going to do now? All that coding and shyt isn’t going to transfer into any other specialty now that AI is doing it 100x better and for free
As the other tweet states they are not replacing these jobs with "AI" they are just ramping up for more h1b workers. AI can't even do basic help desk functions outside of password resets :bryan:
 
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You're gonna work more like a technical pm than an engineer. They eventually gonna phase out the TPM's and turn engineers into agent managers (TPM's). Then they gonna trim that once the systems are up and running. You're still gonna have to be able to put together agent flows and do a small bit of coding here and there to connect systems and maintenance work here and there but eventually your team of 8 engineers prolly becomes a single WITCH contractor and maybe a single FTE who is likely already the team lead. :francis:
Most likely the case. A lot less hiring overall and they want people who can basically doing the jobs of multiple people or have a certain skill.

In terms of education the way I see it for people trying to break in or at mid-level:

- PhD Math with Python experience.

The ultimate tech degree basically. Open AI, Meta, etc. all want this person for A.I. These people are getting paid $10M per year right now, no exaggeration.

- MS Math to understand A.I from a Mathematical point of view and to eventually become Math PhD.
- Computer Engineer for hardware (although there have been cuts)

Probably the next two best degrees to get right now for tech. Those are niches where specialized education puts anybody ahead of the curve.

- MS Computer Science
- BS Electrical Engineering

Also good degrees to have but for Hardware and A.I the other two would most likely be favored. That said there aren’t many people with the first two degrees so these can clean up.

- BS Cybersecurity
- Military experience in Cybersecurity

Another niche, but highly valuable and won’t be going away A.I or not. More attackers using A.I in more creative ways requires defenders to use A.I in more thorough, creative or forward-thinking ways. Especially as more and more countries want to come for us.

- BS Computer Science
- BS Physics
- BS Math
- Military experience with Electronics.

Will still get tech jobs, especially non-programming jobs. Still good degrees to get that may still land a programming job though depending on what you have to show for on the side. At the very least having any of these degrees can land a wide variety of non-software jobs so that’s good. Someone can pull up with a BS Computer Science to any company and tell them “I know how to use agents” and they’ll most likely hire over most other people.

Then there are really niche degrees and specializations like Data Engineering. Not too familiar with them and know some thing like Computer Science can get into these roles but there are also other degrees like Information Systems that’ll land them.

All other ways are still valid to get in with no degree but you’ll have to show years of personal experience and constant grinding of learning software, writing code, etc. It’ll be tougher, but not impossible.
 
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Get whatever degree you want.

Unless you are in an extremely specialized field that requires knowledge of advanced math and algos, it doesn't matter. Get any degree but learn your skills and get your certs.
 

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As the other tweet states they are not replacing these jobs with "AI" they are just ramping up for more h1b workers. AI can't even do basic help desk functions outside of password resets :bryan:
The bolded was probably true in 2023. But you definitely could spend an hour in AI Foundry and get an agent to do everything you think it can't in 2025.
 

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I swear, everytime I add a bunch of valuable information, here come my stalkers/fans reposting the exact same information, slightly rewritten.

Do these guys have original insights or thoughts?
 

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These aren’t even performance cuts. Look at Microsoft’s stock price the last few years by the way.

That email is fukking nasty. “These layoffs come at a time the company is thriving!”

You're looking at thosr job numbers and layoff announcements wrong. There is far more context than can be provided in a tweet.

M$ has added almost 100k jobs since 2018, around 65k since 2020. Even if they got rid of half (they haven't) still an overall increase of around 50k jobs.

The gaming division acquired Activision/King, there are always reductions following an acquisition. They also discontinued equity compensation at Activision, and so on.

Tweets are doom and gloom bullshyt meant to scare the losers. It’s like when people told you not to get a degree, or not to go into this field or that. Long game.

Get whatever degree you want.

Unless you are in an extremely specialized field that requires knowledge of advanced math and algos, it doesn't matter. Get any degree but learn your skills and get your certs.

Correct. What matters is learning advanced math, building and engineering systems, and getting the research work in.

No shortcuts.
 

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Back in China and Europe for a few weeks.

Will post more insights on winning when I get back.

Hope to see a spike in people enrolling in math classes at their local CC or University.
 
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