Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

[lyrical professor]

I mean I guess avecan beat t top, yall actin like he's a URL vet whose mastered the stage. suge kicked his ass and clips beat him without trying even a little bit.

So you really gonna act like T-top wasn't the most comfortable on that stage, compared to the rest of his class? lol

The boy seen r vs v, redemption and Sm4 crowds, gave solid/dope rounds, had the crowd goin and ain't break a sweat. How many pgs we seen come and go, and the same can be said about them?.

Ave ain't seen none of that yet lol

 

[T-K-G]

So you really gonna act like T-top wasn't the most comfortable on that stage, compared to the rest of his class? lol

The boy seen r vs v, redemption and Sm4 crowds, gave solid/dope rounds, had the crowd goin and ain't break a sweat. How many pgs we seen come and go, and the same can be said about them?.

Ave ain't seen none of that yet lol

It doesnt matter cuz Ave 3-0'd concrete carl and slick sam

 

[Momentum]

This whole SDH thing leaves a lot of guys in limbo. I really hope TODD can have enough events to keep everyone working.

 

[Delicious]

This whole SDH thing leaves a lot of guys in limbo. I really hope TODD can have enough events to keep everyone working.

My guess is that we won't see half these dudes again. Sad to say it, but I just don't see there being enough space for all our most of them to rebound from this.

Edit: unless JJ takes this as an opportunity to straight up be the graduated version of SDH.

 

[Delicious]

Random

I feel that battle rap is constantly in danger of a complete and thorough collapse. These incidents of nikkas deading other dudes for their dough have worked out in non violent ways so far, but eventually someone is going to get legitimately touched. Once something like that happens and makes the news, two words after that. Ball game.

 

[MJ Truth]

Random

I feel that battle rap is constantly in danger of a complete and thorough collapse. These incidents of nikkas deading other dudes for their dough have worked out in non violent ways so far, but eventually someone is going to get legitimately touched. Once something like that happens and makes the news, two words after that. Ball game.

That wouldn't stop battle rap or collapse it or destroy it or anything like that though. It would just halt it from growing more mainstream, which is what a lot of fans fear anyway. It would really just bring more notoriety to it; it's not like the people who would be upset about something like that happening are the ones who are supporting the culture right now anyway.

 

[Yapdatfool]

That wouldn't stop battle rap or collapse it or destroy it or anything like that though. It would just halt it from growing more mainstream, which is what a lot of fans fear anyway. It would really just bring more notoriety to it; it's not like the people who would be upset about something like that happening are the ones who are supporting the culture right now anyway.

Problem with that is the money/funds would be even smaller and we'll get even shyttier battles and/or rehashing the same people over and over.

 

[Delicious]

That wouldn't stop battle rap or collapse it or destroy it or anything like that though. It would just halt it from growing more mainstream, which is what a lot of fans fear anyway. It would really just bring more notoriety to it; it's not like the people who would be upset about something like that happening are the ones who are supporting the culture right now anyway.

My thought is that if something wild enough happens (which is a real possibility imo), these dudes will not get venues.

 

[Big Jo]

My thought is that if something wild enough happens (which is a real possibility imo), these dudes will not get venues.

I was thinking the same sh1t. Watching the Minnesota Luke fights in battle rap video, there's a lot of clips from small unknown leagues. In venues that look like delis with I'm assuming no security.

All it takes is one knucklehead with a gun to fire a shot. Sh1t turns into a melee, makes the news and goes "viral" and it's a black eye that battle rap might never recover from.

The old Niks vs ENJ battle for example. It was always said dude that got snuffed had a burner on him. Sh1t coulda got ugly real quick. Even if it happens on a small copycat league the bigger leagues would be affected.

Mainstream media is known to take something and runs with it. They would paint all battle rap events with the same brush

 

[wizworld]

There have been fights & shootings at rap parties & shows for over 30 years and rap hasn't "collapsed". Why would mainstream media start worrying about battle rap all of a sudden? How many major sponsors are involved anyway? Ciroc pulled out a long time ago. Drake sponsored an event where there was an altercation right on stage, and I don't remember there being any negative press about it. In fact you might not even remember that it happened.

It's hard to get a big venue in NYC, but let's be real if it came down to it URL would do PPV before they gave up their spot. I don't think any of the other leagues have to worry about venue problems, because either they aren't based in NYC, or they aren't big enough to have to worry about getting a venue that holds 1000.

Battle rap is too big for a violent incident to make it disappear. You guys should relax and have some tea.

 

[dennis roadman]

This art form is never going mainstream, not any more than breaking has (which is huge events with major sponsors but still not a cultural touchstone for the average person by any means)

But the money could dry up, that's true. But it will re-emerge somewhere else, jonin, playing the dozens, that shyt is literally timeless

 

[Delicious]

There have been fights & shootings at rap parties & shows for over 30 years and rap hasn't "collapsed". Why would mainstream media start worrying about battle rap all of a sudden? How many major sponsors are involved anyway? Ciroc pulled out a long time ago. Drake sponsored an event where there was an altercation right on stage, and I don't remember there being any negative press about it. In fact you might not even remember that it happened.

It's hard to get a big venue in NYC, but let's be real if it came down to it URL would do PPV before they gave up their spot. I don't think any of the other leagues have to worry about venue problems, because either they aren't based in NYC, or they aren't big enough to have to worry about getting a venue that holds 1000.

I don't want the conversation to get off the rails too much, but I do recognize that rap has a history of violence at events. That said, I tend to think rap's resilience is based heavily on it's value as an investment. Even 30 years back, anyone with real money knew they could exploit the growth for crazy returns. Further, the tumultuous environments and personas were primary drivers for said growth in the TV age.

Battlerap doesn't have the same obvious growth potential. There's not nearly as many areas to exploit so the artists can't be monetized in any major or even moderate way (relative to the music industry). It's definitely expanding and getting noticed, but my thought is that something like a major violent event (shooting, graphic video of violence) that makes real news can set it back in a major way. Like rap, the main draw is the tumultuous environment, but unlike rap, the gains aren't there. The risk v. reward is already low. An incident like that could literally cause the few remaining doors to close. I mean, if I'm a venue dude and someone says "remember that stabbing on the news? those people want to rent out the venue for 8 hours and have another event." I'm probably going to pass.

...But you made a good point about PPV. Seems like a concentrated effort in that area could be significant for the URL. Hell, if a nikka got shot and venues shut down, those follow-on PPV's would be outrageous.

Battle rap is too big for a violent incident to make it disappear. You guys should relax and have some tea.

 

[theflyest]

This whole SDH thing leaves a lot of guys in limbo. I really hope TODD can have enough events to keep everyone working.

Todd needs to actually release battles for me to take him seriously.

 

[dutchie]

I don't think violence will be the downfall for an art that revolves around poetically telling your opponent you will end his life and the lives of his loved ones in an as gruesome and cruel possible way

 

[A.R.$]

I don't think violence will be the downfall for an art that revolves around poetically telling your opponent you will end his life and the lives of his loved ones in an as gruesome and cruel possible way

There is an difference between spitting a round about it and it really happening. Look at the damage Math caused at SM3 and he only punched Jones. Would it completely collapse? I doubt it but it would do serious damage. I'm not sure ppv is enough either. Even some hardcore battle rap fans don't cop the ppv because it so easy to watch the bootlegs.