Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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even if i did put swave sevah one or three slots above math, he still would get dragged by lux half way through the 2nd round



Hollow: i don't give hollow credit because he doesn't deserve it when it pertains to Smack/URL.....he only had one battle where he completely body bagged an opponent and that being big t, if you wanna count the battle with hitman holla at sm1 then cool, even though both was lackluster and neither one was really saying sh!t.....And it's not hard at all to be Goodz, that's a walk in the park for everybody in url outside of shotgun suge. More importantly outside the ring, Hollow's battle bars are horrible in a cypher and freestyles.

You need to watch the Hitman battle again. He was far more lyrical in that battle than he was against Big T. He was saying some insane shyt
 

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whats the consensus on this battle? I know Jon Jon had a killer third round but Bill collector came back and spit a hot round, parts of it had me dying. when he said "Your momma ask me for some crack I sell her soap nikka" :deadrose:

I give it to JJDD but honestly its cause Bill Collector just got annoying to me, the first two rounds were kinda :ehh: on both sides, JJDD had dat part in round one with the multiple choice that was cool and Bill Collector was acting all funny style but seriously after JJDD's 3rd round I was just :merchant: and :lolbron: the entire time. It took me like an extra 15 min just to get to Bill Collector's round that by that point I really didnt even wanna pay attention to what Bill Collector had to say.

With that said I understand why people sometimes choose to go first cause if you REALLY bring the :fire: in your 3rd rd (or 1st rd if its a 1 off) you make it so nikkas dont even wanna hear the other battler. So they can be saying some decent lines but it would be falling on deaf ears at that point (another good example of this was the charlie clips v xfactor battle. Charlie clips brought so much heat that in a way I didnt even care to listen to xfactor and he was saying some hot shyt himself. Actually it even deflated xfactor, some ppl were arguing he really didnt come with it energetically.)

But to answer your question I think the consensus was JJDD
 

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PREACH BROTHA :myman: Lux got everything you need to win a battle: bars (straight line for line, metaphors, wordplay, punchlines, entendres, complexity), aggression unlike nobody doin' it, he's animated, presence is always flat out arrogant. Funny shyt is, nikkas only focus on the 2 battles on camera (98% of the new breed still can't match his 3 rounds with miles btw) and the 106 sh!t, people don't take heed what that boy been sayin' on them cyphers and freestyles for the past few years. His battle bars is still sharp as ever. This battle shyt is a competitive sport, it ain't just about showin' ya' talent in the ring, it's the practice you put outside the ring. the only person Lux can lose to is Mook bottom line, the only people that will give him fits in the ring is a focused Yung Ill, and Big T.

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my nikka :myman:
smh @ nikkas sleepin on Lux :snoop:

I'd take Hollow over Mook tho

Really you picked those two, what about nikkas like Swave Sevah, charlie clips, hollow da don, shyt I even think xfactor could possibly give him fits.

I agree with those you mentioned, but NAAAAH, Charlie would get clipped in that battle
Arsenal and Ice killed it

Lux is overrated, he's gonna lose.

How is Lux overrated tho?

The reason i said Ill is because everybody know's Ill is mr. 2nd round when it comes to this battle shyt, that's when he really turns up the pressure....he's a problem for anybody when it comes to that, he can get busy in the 3rd to.

The reason i chose Big T is simply for a battle of complexity.....no need to explain that if you know lux and t, you know they both love havin' complex bars.

Now on to your suggestions:
x-factor yes......because he's the only consistent veteran that's battling these young boys and still able talk that shyt, ma' memory slipped on x, so yeah he's one of the only two that could possibly give it to lux besides mook. i was mainly talkin' about the NEW breed.

Swave Sevah is hot ass crack.....he's like a math hoffa with glasses and ok lines....he wouldn't last the 2nd round

Charlie.....meh he not there yet......he's still hit and miss.....the only people he flat out beat is X-factor (not because he rapped for 21 minutes, he had 21 minutes of versatility it's a few things i could pinpoint but i'm not.....& Tay Rock. Both his bars and performance against Verb was over hyped at SM 1 though, and he wasn't that impressive against Big T. He's decent at best, i will say he's had a moment or two here and there.

Hollow.....i take everything i said back.......hollow would get trashed half way through the 2nd round.....i had to remember this the same hollow that battled in grindtime where it's mostly jokes over real bars.....when he was on his smack shyt he trashed big t i'll give him that, did ok with goodz, and didn't do too much against holla that had me like oh sh!t....ain't this same n!gga that got trashed by ars with a recycled verse on fight klub??.....smh stop it b. Y'all got him on a pedestal as THAT dude in url when he's just ok on his best day, if we talkin' bars.

the Ill vs Rex could step in the ring with Lux, but not the Ill against Rich

Swave Sevah is MILES, ahead of Math.. he's actually Math on steroids..
He can bully a nikka and come up with hella clever line (O-red, QP)
Charlie is sick (Tay Roc) but he ain't been on that level since to me
You gotta take into account that Hollow improved a lot since Fight Klub, don't sleep on his skills breh

Hollow is the most complete battle rapper no debate.

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IDK I need rewatch Big T's battles and dissect him some more but something about him doesnt do it for me. Dude be too uptight for me its like he need to loosen a lil bit. It was one battle when he was goin on some battles I think it was Charlie Clips about how he be jokin too much and Im like Id take a funny battler over the super technical punchline battler. I never really liked him in any battle.

Come on mane Swave Sevah is waaaay beter than Math to me. Dude is the total package in a battler. He got wit, humor, bars (his battle against syd vicious, when he body bagged young kannon,)

Charlie Clips is solid as well. I didnt watch his battle vs Verb but I was convinced after his battle vs X.

And I think you not given Hollow enough credit.

Big T is crazy nice, he's just not that arrogant as other battlers making him not stand out.. but nikkas know he crazy nice with the bars

"They say I'm scared of Surf, I say Surf who, they say Tsu Surf, I say Surf cool, what it do Surf, because Surf get you for what you worth, because Surf sue, me versus Tsu, I will murk Tsu, and will hearse Tsu, no rehearsal, I will hurt Tsu, but it hurts to, know that I won't be the first to" :ooh:
 

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I give it to JJDD but honestly its cause Bill Collector just got annoying to me, the first two rounds were kinda :ehh: on both sides, JJDD had dat part in round one with the multiple choice that was cool and Bill Collector was acting all funny style but seriously after JJDD's 3rd round I was just :merchant: and :lolbron: the entire time. It took me like an extra 15 min just to get to Bill Collector's round that by that point I really didnt even wanna pay attention to what Bill Collector had to say.

With that said I understand why people sometimes choose to go first cause if you REALLY bring the :fire: in your 3rd rd (or 1st rd if its a 1 off) you make it so nikkas dont even wanna hear the other battler. So they can be saying some decent lines but it would be falling on deaf ears at that point (another good example of this was the charlie clips v xfactor battle. Charlie clips brought so much heat that in a way I didnt even care to listen to xfactor and he was saying some hot shyt himself. Actually it even deflated xfactor, some ppl were arguing he really didnt come with it energetically.)

But to answer your question I think the consensus was JJDD

see I never let that get to me even though I agree people do it, like X factor beat clips, and QP beat Soul Khan to me but both didnt really get a chance.

Actually bill collectors 3rd round was fire, that was my point, after jon jon 3rd round I was like oh he got this, but then I seen bill collector and he had me like damn idk
 
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For anybody that still wanna bring up that argument "oh it's a new day!, all the legends gotta adjust to this new style, (outside of mook vs. iron)....they gotta worry about the crowd" etc. Which is all bullshyt to me.....check out his analysis last year. Forget how he breaks down the verb and clips battle, listen to what he say when it pertains to your performance and that crowd.....and some of y'all think that man ain't been studying the new era all this time. :pachaha:
 
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Loaded Lux breaks down the Aye Verb, Charlie Clips Battle - YouTube

For anybody that still wanna bring up that argument "oh it's a new day!, all the legends gotta adjust to this new style, (outside of mook vs. iron)....they gotta worry about the crowd" etc. Which is all bullshyt to me.....check out his analysis last year. Forget how he breaks down the verb and clips battle, listen to what he say when it pertains to your performance and that crowd.....and some of y'all think that man ain't been studying the new era all this time. :pachaha:

Lux KNOWS the game done changed. From spittin for the block to nikkas on the internet.

Calicoe bout to end up in a COFFIN back to Detroit :pachaha:
:deadrose: At his nikkas putting the battery in his back to go against LUX, meanwhile thinking...

























This gon' be the easiest flip ever :mjpls:
 
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