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Real talk Rich didn't beat calIcoe neither I watched the battle again yesterday and even though cal used a mixtape verse second round that shyt was hot

Ill beat rich that battle had me going back and forth though but I gave it to ill after watching over a couple times Rich don't hold up over time
 

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Been,watching them JJDD battles,recently... JJDD vs Hitman is now my most anticipated. There styles just mesh well together.
 

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I think Rich got Ill in that battle, that illusion/ill losin line was hot...Ill had a hot 2nd round but :huhldup: as far as best round ever :usure:, I wouldnt go that far

I said "one of the best rounds ever" ;)
 

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I respect your take on that battle. I just recently started watching this battle shyt heavily (I used to just watch the popular battles here and there). Which is why a nikka like me wouldnt know he jacked Goodz (Ive seen like two of his battles vs Cons and hollow). I also dont follow Rich Dollarz much either so that name flip shyt idk. Although name flipping is something almost every battler does even ill did it with the Richard shyt, but I guess its the way he did it which is what your referring to.
right im not saying he can never name flip, but rich does the exact same kind of name flipping in most of his battles

i also gave ill more points due to the fact he was there by himself and still had the crowd going nuts over his lyricism, and rich had his people there with him kinda over hyping some of his bars.

but for the most part, that is some of the best i have heard rich dollarz, but it wasnt enough for me.
 
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Calicoe's best asset is his performance

But Lux is mad animated himself so that won't give him that edge he needs to win the crowd over



Loaded Lux, Goodz, Head Ice, Arsenal Going at St Louis (Blue Collar Television Cipher) - YouTube

Lux CAN NOT I repeat CAN NOT be out-barred by anyone..

Bars like these + personals is gonna be a bodybag

The only one I realistically see messing with Lux is Hollow cause he's the most well-rounded skillwise

PREACH BROTHA :myman:. Lux got everything you need to win a battle: bars (straight line for line, metaphors, wordplay, punchlines, entendres, complexity), aggression unlike nobody doin' it, he's animated, presence is always flat out arrogant. Funny shyt is, nikkas only focus on the 2 battles on camera (98% of the new breed still can't match his 3 rounds with miles btw) and the 106 sh!t, people don't take heed what that boy been sayin' on them cyphers and freestyles for the past few years. His battle bars is still sharp as ever. This battle shyt is a competitive sport, it ain't just about showin' ya' talent in the ring, it's the practice you put outside the ring. the only person Lux can lose to is Mook bottom line, the only people that will give him fits in the ring is a focused Yung Ill, and Big T.
 

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PREACH BROTHA :myman:. Lux got everything you need to win a battle: bars (straight line for line, metaphors, wordplay, punchlines, entendres, complexity), aggression unlike nobody doin' it, he's animated, presence is always flat out arrogant. Funny shyt is, nikkas only focus on the 2 battles on camera (98% of the new breed still can't match his 3 rounds with miles btw) and the 106 sh!t, people don't take heed what that boy been sayin' on them cyphers and freestyles for the past few years. His battle bars is still sharp as ever. This battle shyt is a competitive sport, it ain't just about showin' ya' talent in the ring, it's the practice you put outside the ring. the only person Lux can lose to is Mook bottom line, the only people that will give him fits in the ring is a focused Yung Ill, and Big T.

Really you picked those two, what about nikkas like Swave Sevah, charlie clips, hollow da don, shyt I even think xfactor could possibly give him fits.
 

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Calicoe's best asset is his performance

But Lux is mad animated himself so that won't give him that edge he needs to win the crowd over



Loaded Lux, Goodz, Head Ice, Arsenal Going at St Louis (Blue Collar Television Cipher) - YouTube

Lux CAN NOT I repeat CAN NOT be out-barred by anyone..

Bars like these + personals is gonna be a bodybag

The only one I realistically see messing with Lux is Hollow cause he's the most well-rounded skillwise
Arsenal and Ice killed it

Lux is overrated, he's gonna lose.
 
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Really you picked those two, what about nikkas like Swave Sevah, charlie clips, hollow da don, shyt I even think xfactor could possibly give him fits.

The reason i said Ill is because everybody know's Ill is mr. 2nd round when it comes to this battle shyt, that's when he really turns up the pressure....he's a problem for anybody when it comes to that, he can get busy in the 3rd to.

The reason i chose Big T is simply for a battle of complexity.....no need to explain that if you know lux and t, you know they both love havin' complex bars.

Now on to your suggestions:
x-factor yes......because he's the only consistent veteran that's battling these young boys and still able talk that shyt, ma' memory slipped on x, so yeah he's one of the only two that could possibly give it to lux besides mook. i was mainly talkin' about the NEW breed.

Swave Sevah is hot ass crack.....he's like a math hoffa with glasses and ok lines....he wouldn't last the 2nd round

Charlie.....meh he not there yet......he's still hit and miss.....the only people he flat out beat is X-factor (not because he rapped for 21 minutes, he had 21 minutes of versatility it's a few things i could pinpoint but i'm not.....& Tay Rock. Both his bars and performance against Verb was over hyped at SM 1 though, and he wasn't that impressive against Big T. He's decent at best, i will say he's had a moment or two here and there.

Hollow.....i take everything i said back.......hollow would get trashed half way through the 2nd round.....i had to remember this the same hollow that battled in grindtime where it's mostly jokes over real bars.....when he was on his smack shyt he trashed big t i'll give him that, did ok with goodz, and didn't do too much against holla that had me like oh sh!t....ain't this same n!gga that got trashed by ars with a recycled verse on fight klub??.....smh stop it b. Y'all got him on a pedestal as THAT dude in url when he's just ok on his best day, if we talkin' bars.
 

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The reason i said Ill is because everybody know's Ill is mr. 2nd round when it comes to this battle shyt, that's when he really turns up the pressure....he's a problem for anybody when it comes to that, he can get busy in the 3rd to.

The reason i chose Big T is simply for a battle of complexity.....no need to explain that if you know lux and t, you know they both love havin' complex bars.

Now on to your suggestions:
x-factor yes......because he's the only consistent veteran that's battling these young boys and still able talk that shyt, ma' memory slipped on x, so yeah he's one of the only two that could possibly give it to lux besides mook. i was mainly talkin' about the NEW breed.

Swave Sevah is hot ass crack.....he's like a math hoffa with glasses and ok lines....he wouldn't last the 2nd round

Charlie.....meh he not there yet......he's still hit and miss.....the only people he flat out beat is X-factor (not because he rapped for 21 minutes, he had 21 minutes of versatility it's a few things i could pinpoint but i'm not.....& Tay Rock. Both his bars and performance against Verb was over hyped at SM 1 though, and he wasn't that impressive against Big T. He's decent at best, i will say he's had a moment or two here and there.

Hollow.....i've been on the fence with hollow, only because how he projects his voice and get all high pitched for no reason to force lines annoys the hell outta me lol. He is a better consideration overall though if you break down his strengths. Punches, Humor, rebuttals, metaphors, some slight aggression.

IDK I need rewatch Big T's battles and dissect him some more but something about him doesnt do it for me. Dude be too uptight for me its like he need to loosen a lil bit. It was one battle when he was goin on some battles I think it was Charlie Clips about how he be jokin too much and Im like Id take a funny battler over the super technical punchline battler. I never really liked him in any battle.

Come on mane Swave Sevah is waaaay beter than Math to me. Dude is the total package in a battler. He got wit, humor, bars (his battle against syd vicious, when he body bagged young kannon,)

Charlie Clips is solid as well. I didnt watch his battle vs Verb but I was convinced after his battle vs X.

And I think you not given Hollow enough credit.
 

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As far as JJDD vs HH idk, I think JJ can get him but his presence is lacking on the stage.

EDIT: just watched JJDD vs Bill Collector and that 3rd was something serious. Bill Collector is cool but he too goofy, like you gotta know how to have a balance of both.
 

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As far as JJDD vs HH idk, I think JJ can get him but his presence is lacking on the stage.

EDIT: just watched JJDD vs Bill Collector and that 3rd was something serious. Bill Collector is cool but he too goofy, like you gotta know how to have a balance of both.

whats the consensus on this battle? I know Jon Jon had a killer third round but Bill collector came back and spit a hot round, parts of it had me dying. when he said "Your momma ask me for some crack I sell her soap nikka" :deadrose:
 
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IDK I need rewatch Big T's battles and dissect him some more but something about him doesnt do it for me. Dude be too uptight for me its like he need to loosen a lil bit. It was one battle when he was goin on some battles I think it was Charlie Clips about how he be jokin too much and Im like Id take a funny battler over the super technical punchline battler. I never really liked him in any battle.

Come on mane Swave Sevah is waaaay beter than Math to me. Dude is the total package in a battler. He got wit, humor, bars (his battle against syd vicious, when he body bagged young kannon,)

Charlie Clips is solid as well. I didnt watch his battle vs Verb but I was convinced after his battle vs X.

And I think you not given Hollow enough credit.

even if i did put swave sevah one or three slots above math, he still would get dragged by lux half way through the 2nd round



Hollow: i don't give hollow credit because he doesn't deserve it when it pertains to Smack/URL.....he only had one battle where he completely body bagged an opponent and that being big t, if you wanna count the battle with hitman holla at sm1 then cool, even though both was lackluster and neither one was really saying sh!t.....And it's not hard at all to be Goodz, that's a walk in the park for everybody in url outside of shotgun suge. More importantly outside the ring, Hollow's battle bars are horrible in a cypher and freestyles.
 
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