The one claim about Kobe that I never understood was....

[Absolut]

Did you really just quote me and chop up my paragraph to make it seem like that was the only thing I said? How old are you? What adult does that? You really are going to ignore everything else in that paragraph and confront me with this like it's the only thing I said?

You know what, you got it. I don't have disscussions that way, you win! I obviously made the mistake of thinking I was having an adult conversation.

other players were also on all nba 1st team and all nba defensive 1st teams. other players won mvps, gold medals etc. the only thing in your post other players didnt do were the crazy high scoring games, and the arbitrary scoring streaks, which makes it look like thats what you use to differentiate between players

 

[Propaganda]

1. Shut the fukk up you fake ass bill maher

2. We'll talk about whatever the fukk we feel like.

3. New rule, go fukk yourself.

1. yeah, bill maher.

2. fine. go ahead, talk about whatever you feel like, but you're killing your own credibility.

3.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

again so bronze stans agree that having the best REGULAR SEASON STATS made him the best player from 05-present which is BS

which is funny they put soo much stock into stats...

but when he played hi most IMPORTANT GAMES in his LIFE.. in the finals all his STATS FELL WAY THE fukk OFF...




2007 NBA FINALS SPURS(4-0)
2007 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Bron 22.0, 7.0reb 6.8asst

2011 NBA FINALS MAVERICKS (4-2)

2011 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Best PLayer -- WADE 26.5, 7.0reb 5.2 asst


toss up between who was the 2nd best player between Bron and Bosh


Bron 17.8, 7.2reb 6.8asst

so again the only way you could agrue bronze was the best player during that time frame was to say that regualr season stats are more important than PO and finals production which is



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no ones going to address thiis


i wonder why

 

[Stealth]

no ones going to address thiis


i wonder why

what is there that needs to be addressed? what kind of response is your stupid ass expecting?

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

The fukking EYE TEST!!! You know the shyt that was used before all these bullshyt metrics. The funny thing is people who have played the game readily acknowledge that Kobe was the best player in the league for quite some time, it's basically numbers nerd and stat guys that argue to the contrary and their be all to tend all is PER or some advanced metric.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Didn't he take his shytty Cavs team to the finals. Championship ring is a team accomplishment. I guess Barkley, Ewing, and Miller are crap than

What was the combined record of those the first and second round teams? Just curious.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

1. yeah, bill maher.

2. fine. go ahead, talk about whatever you feel like, but you're killing your own credibility.

3.

Have you seen the coach of my team? I'm steaming right now...

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Nah, that deposit is thoroughly rejected. Laker stans and Kobe stans alike didn't give a fukk about LeBron when he first came to the league cuz that was the beginning of Kobe's career without shaq. nikkaz wanted to see Lakers/heats so Kobe could finally shut shaq the fukk up. Watching prime Kobe play basketball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching anything lebron has done thus far.

But meh, this thread is almost like a spin-off of my "Why do you hate Kobe Bryant?" thread. There's a truly vicious hatred for Kobe and it goes beyond this place, listening to some cats on TV begrudgingly give Kobe his props is hilarious and sad at the same time. To me Kobe was the best from the 01 Finals til the 2010 Finals, all geek stats, individual awards aside just as players you gotta be a fukkin idiot to not take Kobe especially between 06 and 08 before his first finger injury.

I mean damn, I used to hate duncan so much I wanted to shoot a fair one with him regardless of if I'd win or lose I just wanted to fight this nikka when he ended the dynasty and ruined Kobe's game winning shot with a game winner that was then ruined by fisher. Point is, even with that hate I could never possibly sustain such contempt for a person I don't even know like these nikkaz do for Kobe, you'd think he were j.edgar hoover or some shyt. Blaming stans is a weak excuse too, hopefully yall realize that and enjoy whatever's left of Kobe's career.

Lets be real. It was better than watching anything in sports the past 10 years. 81, outscoring Mavs, 4 straight 50 point games, back to back FMVPs, etc.

Who is fukking with that in any sport?

 

[ROFL_GUY]

what is there that needs to be addressed? what kind of response is your stupid ass expecting?

none because i just eneded the argument and exposed how you all dont know shyt about basketabll


regular season stats >>> playoff performance


thats what you bronze stans are saying.. even you know that sounds dumb as fukk

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

so, what on kobes resume says he was the best player in the league for a 4 year stretch? thats what im getting at here. none of you clowns can formulate an argument based on anything of merit, which makes the threadstarters claim look like ass from the jump.

Lets start with 06 & 07. Every single hater had the Lakers in the 11th or 12th spot in those two particular seasons, and it was solely because of his teammates. You, me, and everyone else knew that completely overhauling the Laker lineup of Shaq, Fox, Fisher, etc, was going to completely mean a new beginning. Seeing Fisher replaced with Chucky Atkins, Luke filling in for Fox, Lamar, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook and Kwame Brown filling up the front court was a disastrous team to run with. Caron Butler? Chump. Smush Parker? Really? You want to go there. Every single person who follows basketball knows these guys are low tier players. The best player in that list is Odom, and we all know his consistency issues. So with that, instead of finishing 11th or 12th like you, haters and the media predicted, the Lakers actually make the playoffs two years in a row. And still, you, the haters and media pretend he isn't the MVP of the league, or its best player. Even though, he takes his team far beyond what you all imagined.
Now do I really have to continue with what happened in the next three years? The kid had one of the greatest runs, ever.

 

[Absolut]

Lets start with 06 & 07. Every single hater had the Lakers in the 11th or 12th spot in those two particular seasons, and it was solely because of his teammates. You, me, and everyone else knew that completely overhauling the Laker lineup of Shaq, Fox, Fisher, etc, was going to completely mean a new beginning. Seeing Fisher replaced with Chucky Atkins, Luke filling in for Fox, Lamar, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook and Kwame Brown filling up the front court was a disastrous team to run with. Caron Butler? Chump. Smush Parker? Really? You want to go there. Every single person who follows basketball knows these guys are low tier players. The best player in that list is Odom, and we all know his consistency issues. So with that, instead of finishing 11th or 12th like you, haters and the media predicted, the Lakers actually make the playoffs two years in a row. And still, you, the haters and media pretend he isn't the MVP of the league, or its best player. Even though, he takes his team far beyond what you all imagined.
Now do I really have to continue with what happened in the next three years? The kid had one of the greatest runs, ever.

the 05-06 season is one i believe kobe was the best player, so not sure who you are arguing with here. its the kindergarten level basketball analysis im pointing out. dumb ass shyt like "i watch games i know what im watching i dont need to see anything else or "the eye test" or "x amount of points in x games" instead of actually talking about something of merit

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

the 05-06 season is one i believe kobe was the best player, so not sure who you are arguing with here. its the kindergarten level basketball analysis im pointing out. dumb ass shyt like "i watch games i know what im watching i dont need to see anything else or "the eye test" or "x amount of points in x games" instead of actually talking about something of merit

So what made him not the best in 07? 08? 09? 10? the guy did everything you all said he wouldn't.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Odom's inconsistency used to be a fukkin nightmare. If that jerk hustles for the board at the end of Game 6 we woulda been playing the Clippers in the second round. nikkaz forget how much Kobe did for those bums only for them to ultimately let him down. Thanks to him having to get his teammates involved nikkaz have the nerve to say he was quitting on his teammates. This the shyt we talkin bout, it's like yall blank yall minds to what happened and just believe whatever agrees with yall hate.

 

[Absolut]

So what made him not the best in 07? 08? 09? 10? the guy did everything you all said he wouldn't.

chris paul was the best player imo in 07-08, then its been bron ever since. id give kobe the nod in 05-06, and the 06-07 seasons. every other season in his career someone else bested in in that particular season. like i said, im in the middle of the argument. i dont think hes been the best in a bunch of seasons, but theres been a couple where he was. its moreso trying to find what the kobestan baseline for best player in the league is, and clearly was a futile effort

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

chris paul was the best player imo in 07-08, then its been bron ever since. id give kobe the nod in 05-06, and the 06-07 seasons. every other season in his career someone else bested in in that particular season. like i said, im in the middle of the argument. i dont think hes been the best in a bunch of seasons, but theres been a couple where he was. its moreso trying to find what the kobestan baseline for best player in the league is, and clearly was a futile effort

CPs own family doesn't even believe that. lol "bron ever since". Tell me about those bronze medals then.