The Reason that "Ali" was a boring ass mess was becuz of Will Smith

[Real]

Oldboy, inside man, 25th hour, bamboozled. But i can tell you're on that

I've seen all those movies. Multiple times. Nothing from those movies says that it would have Taken "Ali" from an already well received movie, to a masterpiece.

But i get it, I must be a c00n cuz i don't hang on Spike Lee's nutsack like you.

 

[blackestofpanthers]

I must be a c00n

Your words not mine

 

[Big Boss]

Spike could have had another classic

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Honestly mann is a great director but his filmography is hit or miss.


My problem with ali is the same problem i have with miami vice and public enemies. They have such a strange narrative choice and ultimately feel like collections of scenes instead of a fluid movie

 

[FlyRy]

. They have such a strange narrative choice and ultimately feel like collections of scenes instead of a fluid movie

I feel this way about many of the heralded movies from the 70s

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I feel this way about many of the heralded movies from the 70s

Which ones as an example breh?

 

[Drew Wonder]

Mann is a great director, but Spike would've done a better job with Ali. Shyt, the first half of Ali felt like a remake of Malcolm X anyway lol

Ironic that Mann was brought in to make the movie more commercial. the filmmaking style definitely wasn't commercial and the movie didn't make a whole lot of money anyway. Spike has proven he can make a conventional film with the right budget behind him(Malcolm X, Inside Man)

 

[FlyRy]

Which ones as an example breh?

*puts on flame suit*

French connection
Mean Streets

and maybe Apocalypse Now

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Mann is a great director, but Spike would've done a better job with Ali. Shyt, the first half of Ali felt like a remake of Malcolm X anyway lol

Ironic that Mann was brought in to make the movie more commercial. the filmmaking style definitely wasn't commercial and the movie didn't make a whole lot of money anyway. Spike has proven he can make a conventional film with the right budget behind him(Malcolm X, Inside Man)

Yeah thats the funny thing. When I think commercial i dont think of michael mann. He has a very distinct style and its not that. Most of his movies dont set the box office on fire.


Ultimately he was the wrong choice for the role.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

*puts on flame suit*

French connection
Mean Streets

and maybe Apocalypse Now

Fair enough.


*puts on flame suit*


Its actually why ive never cared for tarantino. His movies feel like random scenes strung together. Some scenes are brilliant but ive never cared for his style.

 

[FlyRy]

Fair enough.


*puts on flame suit*


Its actually why ive never cared for tarantino. His movies feel like random scenes strung together. Some scenes are brilliant but ive never cared for his style.

i'm a stan for his dialogue

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

Spike could have had another classic

Without a doubt.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

It wasn't a film Michael Mann should've directed. It just didn't fit his style

 

[Big Boss]

Worked with spike plenty of times



Will was on some

 

[Big Boss]

Mann is a great director, but Spike would've done a better job with Ali. Shyt, the first half of Ali felt like a remake of Malcolm X anyway lol

Ironic that Mann was brought in to make the movie more commercial. the filmmaking style definitely wasn't commercial and the movie didn't make a whole lot of money anyway. Spike has proven he can make a conventional film with the right budget behind him(Malcolm X, Inside Man)

U right. Just looked it up, they didn't surpass the budget