These Draymond stats tho

[Jalether]

Nah, they were literally a superTEAM, that was the point. They went 12 deep with contributors. Y'all think a super team is only when a team has three Hall of Famers or something and the rest of the roster is bunk.

stop it, that team had Harrison barnes as starter and bums like festus ezeli,mo sleights etc coming off the bench.

This years lakers bench has players better than some of the players starting for the 2016 "superteam" warriors

That gsw team was a classic case of a whole is greater than sum of its parts.
They overachieved big time.

 

[mastermind]

Draymond once averaged in the high teens so for him to regress this much should mean something. Wallace never was a double figure scorer so why should we have criticized him for something he never showed the ability to do.

Draymond average 14 ppg for one season, so idk where this "high teens" stuff came from, and he is not a career 14 ppg scorer.

And what I said earlier is he was, and still is for many nights, a game-changer defensively. He is a better player than Ben Wallace, especially on the offensive end, yet people went crazy over Wallace while shytting on Draymond.

 

[NatiboyB]

Draymond once averaged in the high teens so for him to regress this much should mean something. Wallace never was a double figure scorer so why should we have criticized him for something he never showed the ability to do.

exactly they leave out the fact that draymond at one point did score about 12-13 points...He's never been much of a threat but I have never seen people stan a 5pt 5rb 7ast guy even if he did play damn good team defense.

Ben Wallace was a more dominant defender and rebounder...Ben averaged more rebounds than Draymond does points.

 

[Teko]

Now we can stop acting like the 2016 warriors were some superteam. Dude has always been just a role player.

They had a very good high scoring bench. Amnesia

 

[LebronsHairline]

I dont hate dray but this topic got me dying

 

[x-factor7]

The 73 win team, if Draymond was open he'd hit the shot (in fact all their role players did). That shyt stopped when KD came aboard, don't know if he lost confidence in his shot, but since then it seems like its an automatic miss. You'd think with no KD or Klay, his points would go up. He should be able to get to 10ppg if he could ever fix his shot.

 

[ALonelyDad]

Still has a good impact moving the ball and defense but yeah those #s are not worth that contract. His 2016 year was probably his best year offensively

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Dray gotta be the only breh in the league who can put up absolutely garbage numbers and still have a legion of fans saying trash like “stats don’t tell the whole story!”, “intangibles!”, etc.

Is there anyone else in league history who gets this much praise for putting up this little numbers?

those two were never multiple time all stars and DPOY.

Draymond's stat lines were better when he was making all-star teams. And I'm not sure why y'all think DPOY should have anything to do with a stat line at all.

But yeah, a DPOY-level big who acts as his team's main distributor but doesn't score much is a unique role in bball, Draymond is the only one I can think of. His numbers in his best four years ain't that far off what we've seen from some other all-stars though.

12-8-4 (not an all-star year)
14-10-7
10-8-7
11-8-7

Throw in 1.5 steals and 1.5 blocks a game, a DPOY and two DPOY runner-ups, that ain't bad at all. I'd rather take that then a guy averaging 18-2-6 on bad shooting #'s with no defense.

Compare it to these:

12-6-9
14-7-10
15-7-10
13-8-9
11-8-10
10-6-9

Those were Jason Kidd's numbers in 1998, 2000, 2002, 2006, 2008, and 2010. Those #'s ain't very different from the numbers that Draymond puts up, plus Draymond is more impactful on the defensive end. Not only did Jason Kidd make the All-Star all 6 of those years, he made 1st-team All-NBA in both of the bolded years and actually finished #2 in MVP voting in 2002 with that 15-7-10 line. And Kidd shot 39% that year and 32% from three.

 

[Jahbarri]

Those stats would be good if he were scoring Atleast 10 a game TF

 

[Shadow King]

Scraping for 5 boards as a defensive PF though?

 

[Reggie]

Draymond average 14 ppg for one season, so idk where this "high teens" stuff came from, and he is not a career 14 ppg scorer.

And what I said earlier is he was, and still is for many nights, a game-changer defensively. He is a better player than Ben Wallace, especially on the offensive end, yet people went crazy over Wallace while shytting on Draymond.

Ok so he averaged 14. Still double what Ben averaged who never was known for offense. Ben was a 4 time DPOY so i don't know how much better he was on that end. More versatile? Yeah. But don't act like Ben wasn't the fulcrum of that Detroit team just like Draymond with the Warriors.

 

[Elim Garak]

They started playing better as soon as he returned his numbers are trash but he impacts the game.

 

[FAH1223]

hows that PER looking tho

His PER is only 8.8 right now

Why doesn't he shoot the ball more? Seriously? I watch GSW games and he stays overpassing when he can float it or lay it in. FG% in the 35% range so far this year. 38% last year

And yes, they are better defensively with him in the game. But he needs to be giving you a bit more offensively

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Draymond had 32 in Game 7 in 2016, 40 point playoff game with 8 threes made vs Portland in the playoffs.... Tf happened to this dude

 

[froggle]

Judge Draymomds impact by stats,, brehs

I mean, anyone who can lock up a prime Kareem does more than what we see in the box score