These Draymond stats tho

[WMG the 2nd]

Draymond average 14 ppg for one season, so idk where this "high teens" stuff came from, and he is not a career 14 ppg scorer.

And what I said earlier is he was, and still is for many nights, a game-changer defensively. He is a better player than Ben Wallace, especially on the offensive end, yet people went crazy over Wallace while shytting on Draymond.

I was with you UNTIL you said better player then Ben Wallace.
Ben Wallace was an all time great center and if he was in the league right now would still put up 13-16 rebounds a game. Only downside would be his lack of shooting but his ability to shoot or willingness like Draymond is the only thing Draymond does better. Ben also was a small center at 6’9 and Draymond still a 6’6 Center himself

 

[Big Boss]

 

[mastermind]

Ok so he averaged 14. Still double what Ben averaged who never was known for offense. Ben was a 4 time DPOY so i don't know how much better he was on that end. More versatile? Yeah. But don't act like Ben wasn't the fulcrum of that Detroit team just like Draymond with the Warriors.

Breh, Draymond has never been a scorer. I’m struggling as to why you can’t understand this.

And you are making my earlier point about you eating Wallace high because he blocked shots in a spectacular fashion, which is probably why you rate him higher.

 

[mastermind]

I was with you UNTIL you said better player then Ben Wallace.

Draymond is a better player than Wallace.

He was as great of a defender as Wallace and for a few seasons he was the Warriors’ third best offensive player, while Wallace was probably Detroit’s worse.

Ben Wallace was an all time great center and if he was in the league right now would still put up 13-16 rebounds a game. Only downside would be his lack of shooting but his ability to shoot or willingness like Draymond is the only thing Draymond does better. Ben also was a small center at 6’9 and Draymond still a 6’6 Center himself

the reason why I rate Draymond higher is not just scoring. Draymond is a playmaker and initiates offense while you couldn’t put the ball in Wallace’s hands unless it’s a lob.

 

[Reggie]

Breh, Draymond has never been a scorer. I’m struggling as to why you can’t understand this.

And you are making my earlier point about you eating Wallace high because he blocked shots in a spectacular fashion, which is probably why you rate him higher.

You have NEVER seen where i have ranked Ben or Draymond until the last post. But even with that said Ben was a great 1 on 1 defender as well and it wasn't all about the blocked shots with him. If that was the case Dikembe would have won pretty much EVERY season. And know one says Draymond needs to be getting 20 a night but 15 a night is something that should be expected from a guy with a 100 million dollar contract. I don't care how great he is on the other end. If he isn't getting 15-18 boards a night like Rodman or 8-10 assists then he is a liability on that end of the floor same as Ben.

 

[mastermind]

If he isn't getting 15-18 boards a night like Rodman or 8-10 assists then he is a liability on that end of the floor same as Ben.

This is why a lot of you are casual fans.

The Warriors offense has exploded since Draymond came back from COVId. I think Draymond should score more, but if you can’t see how his player improves the offense then you aren’t watching the games.

 

[Cladyclad]

7ast is elite from the forward position

 

[Don Homer]

Bullock/Barrett are combined shooting about 30% from three this year but randomly went 5-5 from three in the first. That obviously wasn't sustainable as they only hit 1 more three the entire rest of the game.




They were down 5 at the time solely because the Knicks hit an unsustainable string of 3pt in the 1st. You can't watch the Warriors and not see that the defense and offense both run smoother when Draymond's in the game.

LMAO this post went completely ignored because yall wanna hate tho

 

[Professor Emeritus]

LMAO this post went completely ignored because yall wanna hate tho

They also completely ignored when I pointed out that Draymond's stats when he was making all-star teams where the same as a lot of Jason Kidd years, even some of his 1st-team All-NBA seasons. But no one was going crazy about Jason Kidd not having good enough stats.

 

[Houston911]

@CHICAGO real ones knew this day would come

 

[Barry Sanders]

They also completely ignored when I pointed out that Draymond's stats when he was making all-star teams where the same as a lot of Jason Kidd years, even some of his 1st-team All-NBA seasons. But no one was going crazy about Jason Kidd not having good enough stats.

Because Jason a way better player than Draymond

 

[CHICAGO]

@CHICAGO real ones knew this day would come

BETTER THAN KYRIE THEY SAID



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[Lucky_Lefty]

Ben Wallace was an all time great center

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Now we can stop acting like the 2016 warriors were some superteam. Dude has always been just a role player.

They never were pre kd they were just a great team with players who knew their part.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

offensivly hes cooked
but they need him on defense