Things About 90's Hip Hop You Didn't Like?

[mobbinfms]

the rapping like a cartoon character spitting humpty dumpty bars

Bum stiggedty bum stiggedty
BARS

 

[mobbinfms]

The true originals get their props, but as much as nikkas trendhop now, it was crazy back then if you follow the history.

Wu tang comes out in 93 and all of a sudden in '94 Pete & CL come out with "i get physical", LL on records talmbout "flava like praline" sayin all kinda weird shyt like he u god or ghostface or some shyt. The Pete/Cl shyt seems like label forced em

Pac dies now every nikka got a bandanna on tied to the front on some dikkridin shyt

it's more but i'm tired of typing lmao

Too many wack nikkas hid behind the "i'm from NY", "original sound" bullshyt when they really had no creativity and/or nothing worthwhile to say

I don't get the Wu and Pete & CL connection at all. Explain it slowly and without big words breh.

 

[mobbinfms]

Master P not geeting his propz for what he did in the 90's

Jay-z stans tryin to act like Jay's career started blazing hot in 96

P got crazy props in the 90s for "what he did" which I assume is a reference to selling records cause none of those fast food microwave popcorn albums held up.

 

[mobbinfms]

The thing I didn't like was how separate and unoriginal everything became.

Hip Hop was just Hip Hop before. Diverse. Then around like '93, a lot of artists started trying to fit into boxes. Before that, you'd be a PE, Heavy D, Ice Cube, De La Soul, Rakim, Kool G Rap and Digital Underground fan and see them all get love and respect equally. And different kinds of artists would work together too. There was no "sound". People had their own crews, but there was more unity as a whole. It wasn't weird to see a G Rap album pretty much entirely produced by a West Coast producer. Or vice versa, like with Cube. If you had good shyt you'd be embraced.

Then things changed, and it started becoming more about who did your album, or who co-signed you. Onyx blew up, and then you saw mad Onyx clones. Even established artists started trying to make tracks like them. If something worked for one artist, you'd see a bunch of other artists changing to jump on whatever that was. Biting used to be the worst thing you could do, but it became accepted because everyone just wanted to succeed. When Bad Boy got hot, artists started thinking they needed to copy that to be heard. And then after awhile, everything started sounding the same. The underground artists started getting pushed aside because they weren't conforming. No matter how dope they were. So major labels stopped signing them. You wouldn't see a group like The Artifacts or Souls of Mischief being pushed by a major anymore. They got scared to put money behind artists that didn't sound like whatever was working at the time. But back in the day, groups like X-Clan, EPMD and PE would get the same push and airtime with videos, as a popular artist.

We just lost a lot of originality in the 90's. A lot of people became followers. Instead of making what felt right, everyone started making what they thought would be a hit. You'd feel like you found gold, if you found an artist that was original and doing their own thing. And that wasn't always an issue before. It's something that still kinda makes the culture wack today.

Great post. But i disagree somewhat. When people were copying Onyx or Das, it didn't feel like (to me at least) that they were doing it to sell records, but rather cause it was dope shyt and they wanted their shyt to be dope. With biting bad boy - it was transparent as glass that it was a cash grab.

And things were more separate in the 90s. For the better. Regional sounds developed. Collaborations were rare. Running out and getting every hot producer on your record was the exception, not the rule. After Life After Death, everyone tried to make an album with a little something for everyone. It never worked.

 

[mobbinfms]

Where do I start

How about with a neg.

 

[mobbinfms]

South didn' t get enough recognition

From Outkast's phenomenal classics to Face/Geto Boys originality and grittiness to No Limit's/Cash Money's hunger and hustle plus being real gangsters (unlike tons of ducktales east coast guys)...they had it was harder than many east/west coast rappers

South got plenty of recognition.

 

[SirBiatch]

Great post. But i disagree somewhat. When people were copying Onyx or Das, it didn't feel like (to me at least) that they were doing it to sell records, but rather cause it was dope shyt and they wanted their shyt to be dope. With biting bad boy - it was transparent as glass that it was a cash grab.

And things were more separate in the 90s. For the better. Regional sounds developed. Collaborations were rare. Running out and getting every hot producer on your record was the exception, not the rule. After Life After Death, everyone tried to make an album with a little something for everyone. It never worked.

I agree. I think there was definitely a point where people were biting because it was just so goddamn ill, and there was an insanely high pressure to be dope. Dudes bit the hell outta Nas, but how could you not? He raised hip hop to another level. You either had to adopt some of his style/approach to rap or get left behind.

 

[mobbinfms]

Inspectah Deck's album ruined by a flood

His whole career was ruined by that flood.

 

[Wild self]

South got plenty of recognition.

Outside of a few acts, it was harder for the south to be put on. I remember when people used to shyt on David Banner because he from Alabama and even when he spat ill freestyles, people at him.

Hip hop was regional back then, just that outside of NY, LA, and Chicago, you weren't shyt. Even worse back then, if you didn't come from a super crime ridden hood, people automatically thought you were soft and "white" washed. Especially after Onyx and Wu blew up.

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

yeah everyone was blunted in the 90's

but hip hop seems druggier now

...except now its not just weed they're high on

Damn thats one of the aspects of todays hip hop that absolutely sucks to me, this whole "molly" here, "Lean" there and so on..
Back in the golden era rappers didn't fukk with that kinda shyt and thats great.
I love me some good weed once in a while but I absolutely don't fukk with all these newly popular chemical shyt. shyt I don't even fukk with alcohol but whatever

 

[mobbinfms]

Outside of a few acts, it was harder for the south to be put on. I remember when people used to shyt on David Banner because he from Alabama and even when he spat ill freestyles, people at him.

Hip hop was regional back then, just that outside of NY, LA, and Chicago, you weren't shyt. Even worse back then, if you didn't come from a super crime ridden hood, people automatically thought you were soft and "white" washed. Especially after Onyx and Wu blew up.

Yeah - I was responding to his point about recognition.

 

[SirBiatch]

other coasts always complaining about regional bias blah blah blah. But let's keep it 1 fukking hundred. Were other coasts dropping albums as brilliant as Illmatic, Ready To Die, Cuban Linx, Infamous, Liquid Swords, Dah Shinin, Main Ingredient back to back?

 

[RichForever]

Sex skits. Sex skits. Sex skits. Did I mention sex skits?

 

[10:31]

other coasts always complaining about regional bias blah blah blah. But let's keep it 1 fukking hundred. Were other coasts dropping albums as brilliant as Illmatic, Ready To Die, Cuban Linx, Infamous, Liquid Swords, Dah Shinin, Main Ingredient back to back?

Breh really?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

bad boy/shiny suit/jiggy influence