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I grew up without a father in the house and me and my man been together 20 yrs.

So growing up without a father has had no massive negative effect on how you relate to a man you're intimate with?..

How did you manage that?...

In my experience women who grow up without fathers are extremely rebellious towards submitting to a man and tend to wanna run the relationship on their terms, invariably they're either stay single once they looks fade or marry weak spineless men that they can control.

But I could be completely wrong
 
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Yeah I think it comes from bearing the brunt of the emotional work in traditional relationships. Did you know marriage is associated with early death in women?

All the unpaid work, unacknowledged stress leads to a lot of hardness in women for the roles we relegate them to.

Then we punish them for those roles.

A lot of this hidden frustration is internalized by women. And instead of using that superior verbal communication skills they claim to have, they rely heavily on passive aggression.

Why? Because we used to socialize women to not be direct. To associate directness with masculinity in communication skills. To be submissive and deferential. When that communication style doesn’t get the job done, who do we get?

Impatient, nasty, come the fukk on, I’m tired, I don’t have time for this bullshyt ma dukes.

Much of the way women are is due to gender role socialization. That passive aggressive, silent sufferer, eternal victim playbook is directly related to how we as a society literally dismiss female opinion as babble, tell them they should be seen not heard, associate directness with hardness.

We also send mixed signals to our men as well and punish them for the roles we push them into. We love to tell men that they are the protectors/providers, and revel in that boys will be boys energy until it backfires. Women will get with the provider they claim to want, but then complain about him not having enough time for her. This world pushes men to have almost sociopathic tendencies to become leaders, but then punishes them if they conform to this. At the same time, we want men to display a wider emotional capacity, but then accuse him of being gay if he acts on a basic human emotion.
Push them to be hunters and pursuants of females. Then call em thirsty or creeps if they take initiative.
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The mixed messages this society tells men and women on how to behave, in juxtaposition with the way we also punish them if they conform to said behavior is a nasty, nasty game.

Mama can’t properly look after her kids without being the dream killer responsible one that we unfairly end of resenting sometimes. Because her first priority = your safety.

Daddy can’t be your emotional rock at your side 24/7 because he has to work to provide, otherwise he is a bum, remember? And if he cries we call him a punk.

Sometimes a balance is struck and you can learn to do better, but I think people aren’t thinking clearly about what went with toxic relationships in the past. We romanticize them but we not being honest with ourselves. Part of the reason why our generation is delaying marriage is because we don’t want to be our parents and see no viable way to avoid that fate in relationships. Especially if you didn’t have a positive example.

Hell I know damn well why I’m resistant to that whole “submit” “woman be silent” “fix me a sammich” cave man shyt because I saw it wreak utter havoc in the women’s lives I grew up with. Utter havoc. On their physical health and on their mental health.

Some of my male cousins feel the same way about stepping into those traditional male roles too because they saw their dads being miserable too in a lot of cases. Imagine working your ENTIRE LIFE to give EVERYTHING YOU GOT to some vinegar faced chick, fixing her mouth to complain instead of expressing gratitude.

SHEEEEIIIIIIITTTTT.

The current generations are running from that shyt. 30 is the new 40. Delaying everything until we can chart a better path than the nonsense we saw some of our parents endure.

Which isn’t ideal b:c we about to have a new crop of kids with disabilities coming through from delays in child birth, among other issues...


Just shyt we gotta figure out before it’s too late.:yeshrug:
We as a society really are just making life miserable for each other lol. Interacting with each other doesn't have to be this hard, and yet the same traits you mention seem to reside in damn near everybody. No matter who you date or cohabitate with, it seems like the same fukking red flags pop up over and over, and it's exhausting. Sometimes I really wanna live in another country for a while just to see if it's only Americans who are the crazy ones.
 

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We as a society really are just making life miserable for each other lol. Interacting with each other doesn't have to be this hard, and yet the same traits you mention seem to reside in damn near everybody. No matter who you date or cohabitate with, it seems like the same fukking red flags pop up over and over, and it's exhausting. Sometimes I really wanna live in another country for a while just to see if it's only Americans who are the crazy ones.
At all! This is why I stay to myself.

Imagine what the younger generation will go through.
 
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Best thread in a while.

One thing I've learned is women are very deep and very secretive about their deepest feelings and desires. Alot of times it turns unto secret resentments for their husband. Thats why a lot of them turn cold and have these sexless marriage.

on top of that society has turned women into dreamers. Most really feel they should have lives similar to Michelle Obama or whoever they admire. So here comes a good faithful man and provider. Things are great for a few years, but slowly her secret desires and aspirations get the best of her Though unattainable, this woman secretly resents here man for not providing her dreams. That's why u her married men complaining they've bought bigger homes and better cars for their wives but she's still not happy.

Took me 5 years for my girl to dig out of my girl that she felt a she shouldn't pay any bills. I was paying 80 of our bills. She never expressed it. When we first moved in together I asked her how much can she afford towards bills. She said 500$, I was like cool, ill pay 1500. 4 years later she said I was getting over on her.


So there are things women know aren't logical attainable, so they don't speak on it, but deep down will resent you not providing it.

This shyt is so frustrating like Cot fukking damn just talk woman shyt :damn: If you felt a way just say that shyt! Everything @Booksnrain is saying about how masculinity is perceived in women is true, I get that, but you don't get no where if can't be proactive, open your mouth and be a little aggressive in pursuit of what you want. It's ironic, because the passive aggressiveness that usually stems from repressed feelings is easily more contemptable than being direct is, and that's on top of it being really fukking senseless too.
 

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So growing up without a father has had no massive negative effect on how you relate to a man you're intimate with?..

How did you manage that?..
:yeshrug: I picked a man a lot like my father and i already had the cheat code.

My mother didnt bad-mouth him to me even tho she very well could have and somehow managed to make me understand both sides. She didn't look after his ego the way he needed. Its just not her way. :francis:


They're still officially married, actually. He still calls for our birthdays and mothers day. They still love each other, its just not workable between them.
 

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This shyt is so frustrating like Cot fukking damn just talk woman shyt :damn: If you felt a way just say that shyt! Everything @Booksnrain is saying about how masculinity is perceived in women is true, I get that, but you don't get no where if can't be proactive, open your mouth and be a little aggressive in pursuit of what you want. It's ironic, because the passive aggressiveness that usually stems from repressed feelings is easily more contemptable than being direct is, and that's on top of it being really fukking senseless too.
The quiet resentment will catch you off guard... I feel like that happens with a lot of women who seem like they are ok with everything but really aren’t. Like if I can say some bullshyt to test her and she doesn’t object that’s a red flag. This is the other side to a lot of “pick men’s” when they get picked.... the ones who are scared to voice their opinions but their resentment slowly builds under the surface
 

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The quiet resentment will catch you off guard... I feel like that happens with a lot of women who seem like they are ok with everything but really aren’t. Like if I can say some bullshyt to test her and she doesn’t object that’s a red flag. This is the other side to a lot of “pick men’s” when they get picked.... the ones who are scared to voice their opinions but their resentment slowly builds under the surface
When you think about it as a man thats a losing battle if a women can't tell you what's wrong or what she needs. Seriously messed up
 

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Good thread, I straight up asked my pops why he marrried my mom. This nikka told me that she said she would abort me if he didn’t.

that definitely puts shyt in perspective :ehh:

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My parents split when I was 24... shyt still sucked because that was all I knew. In my opinion (and even my dad will admit to this) they were equally responsible for the divorce. :francis:

My mom started having health issues and rather than do what the doctors recommended she wanted holistic treatment. Anyway she never went back to work and didn’t do much around the house anymore. My dad tried to be supportive but after awhile he just cracked. nikka was working 2 jobs, doing everything around the house and more only to come home to no dinner and apparently they hadn’t fukked in 3 years... :mjlol:

Pops said the tipping point happened when he accidentally kicked the bed frame getting up for work and thought he broke his foot. Rather than get up to see if he was ok mom was like “keep it down I’m tryna sleep...” :beli:

My mom low key took my dad caring for her for granted and he had enough of that shyt. She of course had enough of my dad not being emotionally supportive anymore. Pops tried to be amicable about the divorce but my mom didn’t want him to leave and tried to take his ass to the fukking cleaners. Still love her but I’ve looked at her differently ever since.:patrice:

If you ask my dad he’ll say he wishes things worked out differently, if you ask my mom she’ll say the nikka tried to leave her for dead, has taken no responsibility for him leaving and is still bitter 6 years later.

I forgot to mention I still lived with them the whole time and my dumbass didn’t notice none of these issues until my dad all of a sudden rolled out one night. :skip:
 

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I grew up without a father in the house and me and my man been together 20 yrs.
Thread starter that Op is a profiled racist - FYI. he purposely creates threads of race-based drama to incite black posters. He has a deep defined hate of black people. In general - people of his join year with a negative red rep are racial signaling and don’t have any intentions but negative when they create threads.


More I lI've the more I realize black americans have very little to live for...a bunch of black americans at any place is a place for me not to be at.

that includes any group that seems to be steeped in black American culture too....imitating their buffoonery. I pass.


Demonic group of people.

Note how this poster just got released off his banning and try to snake his racist devil branded verbiage into the thread knowing damn well he has said the most racist, inflammatory and disrespectful diatribe about black American people.

lol. man. black americans are such a confused bunch.
The constant quest for identity that shifts every 5 years.
Gotta be tough.

honestly guys


if you werent black...have limited physical interactions with them...all you had to base your opinion of them on is videos and media like this......would you want them living next to you??


some days i sit back and just try to understand why is it that we perpetuate ignorance and stereotypes so fukking well. Sometimes im not even mad when a nightclub owner restricts how many black patrons to let in or other similar shyt. Like it could be 2 black people in a party of thousands but they'll somehow start fighting out of nowhere..
 

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I grew up without a father in the house and me and my man been together 20 yrs.
These are the types of threads that he likes to start and the message that he tries to spread.


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/ayo...ore-gang-like-than-distinguished-orgs.268609/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/aye...-requirement-for-a-guy-to-be-8-inches.329108/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-...y-b-n-blacks-and-others.334366/#post-14165307


why does every black success story have to accompany so "we are so sad" black people story with it?

it gets annoying after a while


I'm supposed to feel sorry for him?

Why? Because he is black?


The black woman in America is the worst thing to ever happen to black kids.

Their entire attitude, action and behavior is the reason for the perpetuation of ignorance within the black community. Whether it's to impress them or a results of their influence on the kids upbringing, they are responsible for both.

Stay away from these black women raised and/or influenced by American ideals.
they are just shyt.


in this i mean..if you take a black majority low income neighborhood and you take comparative one from the hispanic community and the white community, the black neighborhood always seem to have higher crime rates. If crime rate is linked to income disparity as we all believe(or atleast try to), then how can you explain and rationalize the discrepancy?

I've really tried to come up with many many rationale, but ultimately they all seem like excuses that abdicates person responsibility and choice..Is the idea of "black culture" fostering this, really all that far off??

the other poster that you’re replying to -same shyt of a different flavor.
 

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@johntheblackjew Did your single bytch of a useless mom teach you to run with racist theories about black people or were you spawned?? Did your sperm donor parents teach you about playing characters online for cac entertainment? Do you think a thread about you and all of your past threads created will reflect on you in a positive way??

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/winter-is-coming.353011/page-657#post-14427465

we all know black people are obnoxious because its a way to make themselves feel better about being at the bottom of the totem pole.

its even worse with black women because they really have to overcompensate for their lack of self esteem .

black people or those influenced by black american culture are often the ones that would clown on someone for wearing cheap shoes or cheap clothes very loudly in public.

Its all self esteem issues. if you're confident in yourself, you would feel the need to put someone else down.

And people are in here taking his Fukkin shyt of a thread seriously
 
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Thread starter that Op is a profiled racist - FYI. he purposely creates threads of race-based drama to incite black posters. He has a deep defined hate of black people. In general - people of his join year with a negative red rep are racial signaling and don’t have any intentions but negative when they create threads.




Note how this poster just got released off his banning and try to snake his racist devil branded verbiage into the thread knowing damn well he has said the most racist, inflammatory and disrespectful diatribe about black American people.
I just wanted to say that I love you and Jesus loves you.
 
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