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[AceMan]

Couldn't maintain a normal family structure with a man in the house?

Honest convo.


I was thinking about this the other day, the older I get the more I'm exposed to women and their habits....sure I still love my mom...shes a lovely mother, I adore her but she absolutely has a way of emasculating a man. She's very head strong and the idea of a man being a man in the home seems to be the antithesis of her existence. Crazy thing is I see the exact qualities in my child's mom. Its to the point where I feel like wverytime I get off work I have to mentally psych myself for the new battle that is the "power struggle" of my home. It is exhausting.
For a long time I was very mad at my dad for leaving but the older I get the more I accept how it literally feels like the only choice you have left.

I actually had the opposite experience.

My father was (is) a rancid POS and my mom stayed anyway.

I feel bad for her.

Same.


That's the one thing I would "blame" my mother for. She endured too much, stayed too long, and never officially got divorced from my dad.

He rewarded her by having multiple out of wedlock kids on her including one with a high schooler, losing his job, and becoming a deadbeat-drug addicted bum.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

This is a case in point how women are grown children. @Cape Town JHB

Despite @Booksnrain's lengthy juelzing, the males of our homo sapien species have borne the brunt of imagining, building and maintaining society since the beginning, and as a collective, men have never looked down on women despite this. On top of that, there has never been a single woman in history who has come up with an idea meant to benefit men only or solved a male-only problem, despite the fact that men's lives have been immeasurably more difficult than women's and yet men still seek ways to make women's lives easier at the expense of our own.

In less than fifty years, women - like children - obtained the ability to contribute directly at the societal level and instead of elevating things, they've essentially used this ability to shyt on the non-female group, the group that made each and every one of their achievements possible, no less.

I tried to say something along these lines before and some broad tried to say women have accomplished a lot and shyt and I in real life hit the drake smilie laugh. Women have never once done anything that would benefit humanity as a whole, ONLY to the benefit of women and really they only want it for themselves, they don't even really want to uplift other women cause they are SELFISH AS fukk.

I aint saying men treated all women like angels and shyt, but overall men never left women to hang out to dry women's quality of life ALWAYS improved when men had total control. Women have proven over the past 50-60 years since they have been empowered they are completely self serving and will literally sabotage everything if they don't get their way no matter how unrealistic what they actually want is and there is ZERO compromise with them. It is ALWAYS all about them, and then they get mad when we call them grown ass children.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

This sounds like he is dipping.

Aint no dap fishing over here. My dad wasn't shyt and so this whole "all single mother's" narrative is disrespectful AF to a lot of people who are better people solely because their mom stepped up and did double duty. Yall need to be mindful of that so that you don't come across like the male version of LSA/BlackTwitter babble about all black men not being shyt.

I get the feeling this is a female behind this account this posts And their post on the 1st page of this thread just solidified it

 

[Coolin']

My parents splitting up and me staying with my pops while my sister and brother went with my mom prolly saved me from putting my foot in all 3 of they sorry asses.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

More, men stress women/wives to an early death with patriarchy?

Married women had a death rate of 569 per 100,000, two-and-a-half times lower than the 1,482 rate for widows. The death rate was 1,096 for divorcees and 1,166 for never-married women.

Tying the Knot Is Tied to Longer Life Span, New Data Shows

You even start off on a untrue note.

This thread was started for people to vent about their mothers and of course it gets derailed with "it's men's fault"



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Nah we gotta stop being sensitive and thinking that telling the truth about shyt equals blaming.

Spoiler: Studies

There are DECADES of research showing that marriage can have some fukked up consequences for people that impacts their health, particularly women.

Why a bad marriage is worse for women than men

Only Happy Marriage Is Healthy for Women

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/stress-marriage-shortens-your-life-year-if-you-re-wife-5335547.html
Research reveals that while wedlock helps men to live longer, it shortens a woman's life by more than a year.

And marrying older men is even more of a hazard.
Downside of marriage for women: The greater a wife’s age gap from her husband, the lower her life expectancy
Also
“A study of nearly 300 women with heart disease published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that marital stress -- by itself -- tripled the risk of heart surgery, heart attacks, or death in the following five years.”

“Just as remarkably, a study of 189 men and women with congestive heart failure published in the American Journal of Cardiology found that survival depended just as much on the quality of the marriage as the severity of the disease. Repeating a common theme, this study found that marital quality had a larger impact on women than on men.”
The question should be why?

But here’s the deal, this thread isn’t about that. It’s about helping OP troubleshoot situations he’s having with his wife.
And that could be related to some of the fukked up dynamics we need to confront in traditional marriages instead of brushing shyt aside or denying that these issues exist, which I gave an example of in my post to him.

Happy, satisfying marriages are great. But we can’t get there if we can’t even talk about how men and women are fukkin over each other without deflecting or becoming defensive.

 

[Vodun]

I'm currently married and iv gone though hell completely. My wife suffers from Entitle wife syndrome and me and our daughter is suffering behind it. She pretty much took all the wonderful compliments over the years that I gave her and turned it around to think she is better then me. She is a shytty mother. I do EVERYTHING for our daughter

 

[TheNig]

I'm currently married and iv gone though hell completely. My wife suffers from Entitle wife syndrome and me and our daughter is suffering behind it. She pretty much took all the wonderful compliments over the years that I gave her and turned it around to think she is better then me. She is a shytty mother. I do EVERYTHING for our daughter

Have you had this conversation with her without it turning into a fight?

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

I'll just say it takes two to tango.

 

[Piff Perkins]

You are insinuating that women are to blame for a normal family structure while you went out and got a woman pregnant that was as toxic as your mother which means that the chances that the child has a healthy environment is close to zero.

Perhaps you should reflect on that instead of attempting to rationalizing becoming a deadbeat like your own dad and continuing the cycle.

I was raised by a single mother and I don't jump to these weird conclusions that don't acknowledge my own doing in the problems I encounter in life. Tbh, you sound like the 'stereotypical' woman you are talking about by placing all of the blame on the opposite sex.

Seek therapy

I mean...this is soul burn slow type shyt.

I’m uncomfortable with the premise of the thread. I don’t know anyone’s parents here but feel like the OP is giving a biased opinion...children don’t know exactly what’s going in with the dynamics between their parents, all they know is that dad left or a divorce happened. I wonder what your mom would think of your words, and how she perceives your father and what he did or didn’t do.

And end of the day you seem to have married or impregnated a woman you resent now too, which seems like...a choice you made. She didn’t morph into that after birth...you knew and nutted in her anyway.


The truth of the matter is that men will fukk anyone and anything, which means they make anyone and anything a mother. And then bounce. This isn’t right or sustainable guys. The demographic numbers are embarrassing...

 

[sosayeth]

Nah we gotta stop being sensitive and thinking that telling the truth about shyt equals blaming.

No, we have to stop lying. Your mother and you likely would've died during childbirth if it wasn't for us WoMeN-HaTinG men.

None of your cherry-picked juelzing actually matches reality. I've addressed you on this already and you ignored it.
The main issue with them being counting divorced men who die younger than average or commit suicide as "single men."

@Easy-E, her pattern is to set up a false pretense and then write an essay elaborating on that lie, and finally conclude in some respect that men are at fault, and if we'd just let women take control, then we'd still be at fault, but at least women would be in control.

 

[sosayeth]

I tried to say something along these lines before and some broad tried to say women have accomplished a lot and shyt and I in real life hit the drake smilie laugh. Women have never once done anything that would benefit humanity as a whole, ONLY to the benefit of women and really they only want it for themselves, they don't even really want to uplift other women cause they are SELFISH AS fukk.

Women are greatly beneficial to society indirectly, through their role in stabilizing families and neighborhoods by raising their own and caring for the children of the community. We don't use a homewrecker who tears the community apart to stigmatize all women, but that's exactly what women like @Booksnrain do when they dismiss and ignore the totality of men's direct contributions in favor of harping on the one of ten guys who didn't appreciate their wife being a homemaker back in 1842 or whatever.

I aint saying men treated all women like angels and shyt, but overall men never left women to hang out to dry women's quality of life ALWAYS improved when men had total control. Women have proven over the past 50-60 years since they have been empowered they are completely self serving and will literally sabotage everything if they don't get their way no matter how unrealistic what they actually want is and there is ZERO compromise with them. It is ALWAYS all about them, and then they get mad when we call them grown ass children.

Never. Men as a collective care about women as a collective, but women as a collective hate men as a collective. Feminism is all projection of (especially white) women's envy and hatred of men. They behave like ungrateful children. Instead of appreciating the initiative men have taken to give them the lives they (thought they) wanted, they hoard as much as possible, demand more and then chastise the group with the patience and benevolence to deal with them. Lol It's wild silly behavior.

 

[sosayeth]

And end of the day you seem to have married or impregnated a woman you resent now too, which seems like...a choice you made. She didn’t morph into that after birth...you knew and nutted in her anyway.

While this is accurate, it's not discussed that men, through societal biases, often sincerely believe a baby -> family will "change" a woman's behavior too.
I myself have put up with toxic female behavior, thinking eventually my commitment towards having a healthy relationship will be appreciated, then reciprocated.

I have no kids, though.

 

[desjardins]

I can clearly see why both of them wouldn't want to be with each other.
My mom is borderline a bytch, and my dad was irresponsible and impulsive. Especially around the time they got divorced.
That generation got married too early I think sometimes. Most people I know don't get married until their 30s now, my parents were already married like a decade with kids before they got that age and really discovered who they were

 

[semicko82]

The mommy worship is cognitive dissonance

For me cats who won't call out or see female nature in their own mama, grandma, sisters etc will never truly understand female evolutionary psychology.

Since we're on this topic, I always drop the best book I've ever come across when it comes to female nature, in these types of threads.



The Predatory Female by Lawrence Shannon (1985):

Z-Library single sign on

The content in that book is worthy of a thread

 

[Vodun]

Have you had this conversation with her without it turning into a fight?

Yes I have and she gets defensive. I've come to realize she is very selfish