Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor

[karim]

People trying to blame Tidal's struggles less on Hov's flawed business model and more into an issue of race

that's why his freestyle got me really upset. using dead people to shift blame is about the most shameless move i have seen jay pull in forever.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

So now we mad about the concept of bragodociousness

Something thats found by every rap legend from Pac, to Biggie, to Nas to Jay

So we are supposed to revel in their failures because they spit bragodocious rhymes based on materialism

SHut ya cracka ass up...u fake ass hip hop fan

Lol cuz I don't like your father figure Jay I'm a fake ass hip hop fan? I don't respect the dude, sorry if it offends you. And I can assure you my hip hop knowledge and music collection far exceeds yours.

Jay isn't remotely in the same class as Pac Nas and Big. Bragging his whole career. The other 3 had much more to them.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

You say that as if google, apple or spotify give a fukk about you. 99% of companies you support everyday dont give a damn about you. You obviously hold black owned businesses to a different standard than the white business you support everyday cause if a company caring or the ceo not being a rich a$$hole was the criteria you used to decide what you buy then you wouldnt be able to buy anything.

Nobody said support him only cause he is black. What is being said is IF you are looking for a streaming service and jays service is similar or better to whats out there ( and many reviews say its competitive) then it being black owned will get my money 100% of the time.

But those other companies aren't out there telling you to feel sorry for them cuz they're not making enough $. At least they're not insulting me.

So are you a subscriber?

 

[Londilon]

Exclusive for videogames makes sense, exclusives for music not only doesn't make sense but is almost impossible to regulate when most artist want their music heard all over the world.

 

[wire28]

If you can't see people in this thread and others genuinely rooting for Jay to fail and laughing at his mistteps then I'm certainly not going to bother pointng them out for you lol. It's frequent enough where it shouldn't be that hard to find.

I find it humorous that you see so many articles from cacs trashing Jay every which way but for some reason it's outside of the realm of possibility that house negros - the mouthpiece for white people - are doing the same. Many black people are self-hating fools conditioned into not wanting to see blacks succeed and therefore take joy in their failures. Let's not be naive to this obvious fact just because "coli militancy" annoys you.

Are there people just pointing out that the product sucks? Sure, but there's plenty of the other too. No need to play extremes on either side.

i've alredy mentioned the "haters". or c00ns. or whatever word of the day you want to label them as. that doesnt take away from the fact that the product is inferior to its competition, hence its slow progress and it being used as target practice by everyone.

calling people who arent defending jay c00ns is a copout. he'd be better served not marketing a medicore product plastered with rich faces with no mention of the products actually abilities while equating his multi-million dollar schemes to the deaths of black men across the nation

 

[Versa]

i've alredy mentioned the "haters". or c00ns. or whatever word of the day you want to label them as. that doesnt take away from the fact that the product is inferior to its competition, hence its slow progress and it being used as target practice by everyone.

calling people who arent defending jay c00ns is a copout. he'd be better served not marketing a medicore product plastered with rich faces with no mention of the products actually abilities while equating his multi-million dollar schemes to the deaths of black men across the nation

Lol "whatever the word of the day is". Aight breh see what you want to see.

 

[BluntTrauma]

Tidal is failing? Oh no how is jay gonna afford to live




Who cares

 

[Gravity]

But those other companies aren't out there telling you to feel sorry for them cuz they're not making enough $. At least they're not insulting me.

So are you a subscriber?

So when did Jay Z ask you to feel sorry for him?

 

[No1]

At the end of the day, If people thought Tidal was a worthwhile service relative to the price they would subscribe. End of story.

Samsung and Apple been throwing shots at each other and launching BLATANT "smear campaigns" against each other for YEARS, and it hasn't stopped a single person who wanted a Samsung from buying a Samsung or a single person who wanted an Apple product from buying an Apple product.

When Twitter first launched it was met with a barrage of negative press and articles.. yet here it is now, because people found it useful.
Yall can try to make this about everything else, but no one is stopping anyone from signing up for Tidal if they wanted to do so. All the negative press in the world wouldn't stop someone from subscribing who truly felt this product was superior and worth the cost.

Tech businesses fail everyday. Especially ones with ill conceived businesses models and marketing plans. Tidal didn't launch quietly so why should their failure be quiet?

It does not matter because most people do not care and they have the marketing dollars to fight that battle, TIdal does not. Second, Tidal is backed by celebrities with public images that can be directly attacked and their lives can be picked apart. The idea of criticizing the CEO of Interscope for his lifestyle does not exist. Consumers do not have that personal relationship with him. The very appeal of giving Tidal a chance came from the interest those celebrities generated so if you attack their character and motives it works because people actually care about who the people they support are when it is an artist. The critiques against Tidal would not, and have not worked against Apple and others. It's a brilliant smear tactic becaue instead of defending the product, they have to defend their very person hood.

i've alredy mentioned the "haters". or c00ns. or whatever word of the day you want to label them as. that doesnt take away from the fact that the product is inferior to its competition, hence its slow progress and it being used as target practice by everyone.

calling people who arent defending jay c00ns is a copout. he'd be better served not marketing a medicore product plastered with rich faces with no mention of the products actually abilities while equating his multi-million dollar schemes to the deaths of black men across the nation

What makes one 9.99 streaming service inferior to the other 9.99 streaming service? Tidal is not competing with Pandora Spotify's free tier is. How many sit downs do Jay Z, Jack White deadmau5 and the company's CFO have to have before you get all get over it? Notice how you claimed that he was equating the deaths of those people to Tidal when it was really a segue way into a different issue. Were you outraged when he compared his triumphs to the first black president being elected? Were you upset by Sean Carter Sean Bell what's the difference do tell? Were you upset when he said "this is to the memory of Deron (sp?) Henry....paying you respect I expect the same thing...when you see me..see you." If you were not upset by any of those references then why are you upset now?This is the coli where threads hating do better than threads informing. Notice how, there was no thread on Tidal's CFO sitting down with AHH, the Wallstreet Journal, no one read when I posted Jay Z at NYU, etc. Nah, you guys are quoting the fukking inquistr which no American reads to point out that Tidal is failing. At what do you realize this all looks ridiculous?

 

[wire28]

What makes one 9.99 streaming service inferior to the other 9.99 streaming service? Tidal is not competing with Pandora Spotify's free tier is. How many sit downs do Jay Z, Jack White deadmau5 and the company's CFO have to have before you get all get over it? Notice how you claimed that he was equating the deaths of those people to Tidal when it was really a segue way into a different issue. Were you outraged when he compared his triumphs to the first black president being elected? Were you upset by Sean Carter Sean Bell what's the difference do tell? Were you upset when he said "this is to the memory of Deron (sp?) Henry....paying you respect I expect the same thing...when you see me..see you." If you were not upset by any of those references then why are you upset now?This is the coli where threads hating do better than threads informing. Notice how, there was no thread on Tidal's CFO sitting down with AHH, the Wallstreet Journal, no one read when I posted Jay Z at NYU, etc. Nah, you guys are quoting the fukking inquistr which no American reads to point out that Tidal is failing. At what do you realize this all looks ridiculous?

it isnt my job to keep track of damage control press conferences from sean and his team. and its not the job of the public at large either. he had his opportunity to sell the product when he had everybody changing their twitter pictures off the basis of it just being Jay Z.

if the product is good, it will be purchased. if its more attractive than its competition, it will be purchased. as it stands now its new and provides nothing better than its competition for the same price, and in actuality it provides less according to others, including people that have reviewed it on here if you want to use them. its obvious you are a jay/tidal stan so its pointless to ask you why its better than its competition.

and it wasnt a segue into a different issue. everything was connected. at the end of the day he is claiming he is being persecuted like them, and we need to stick together and buy his product.................so he can spend that money in europe and on high end european items. jay donating to "protests" wasnt just magically kept under wraps and leaked at the same time.

edit: and if there is no thread, why dont you make the thread if it concerns you so much that poor jay z is being attacked

 

[JayGatsby]

i've alredy mentioned the "haters". or c00ns. or whatever word of the day you want to label them as. that doesnt take away from the fact that the product is inferior to its competition, hence its slow progress and it being used as target practice by everyone.

calling people who arent defending jay c00ns is a copout. he'd be better served not marketing a medicore product plastered with rich faces with no mention of the products actually abilities while equating his multi-million dollar schemes to the deaths of black men across the nation

if you want to break it down to the actual product( pricing aside)

then spotify have more songs, I expect tidal to build their catalogue within the next years

Tidals music player is actually better than spotify,

Tidal is perfect for independent artist

Spotify has just included videos(and also a podcast option)which is good...

the free option on spotify will have to change in order to compete, but for now its a good plus

Tidal have better exclusives( they will always have that over spotify because of jay).....

overall jay can maneuver more than spotify,because of what he owns within the music industry

I expect apple to blow tidal and spotify out the water but the pie is still big enough for all three to eat good

 

[Mike Otherz]

how many subscribers does Tidal need to be deemed successful?

 

[OG Talk]

It does not matter because most people do not care and they have the marketing dollars to fight that battle, TIdal does not. Second, Tidal is backed by celebrities with public images that can be directly attacked and their lives can be picked apart. The idea of criticizing the CEO of Interscope for his lifestyle does not exist. Consumers do not have that personal relationship with him. The very appeal of giving Tidal a chance came from the interest those celebrities generated so if you attack their character and motives it works because people actually care about who the people they support are when it is an artist. The critiques against Tidal would not, and have not worked against Apple and others. It's a brilliant smear tactic becaue instead of defending the product, they have to defend their very person hood.
What makes one 9.99 streaming service inferior to the other 9.99 streaming service? Tidal is not competing with Pandora Spotify's free tier is. How many sit downs do Jay Z, Jack White deadmau5 and the company's CFO have to have before you get all get over it? Notice how you claimed that he was equating the deaths of those people to Tidal when it was really a segue way into a different issue. Were you outraged when he compared his triumphs to the first black president being elected? Were you upset by Sean Carter Sean Bell what's the difference do tell? Were you upset when he said "this is to the memory of Deron (sp?) Henry....paying you respect I expect the same thing...when you see me..see you." If you were not upset by any of those references then why are you upset now?This is the coli where threads hating do better than threads informing. Notice how, there was no thread on Tidal's CFO sitting down with AHH, the Wallstreet Journal, no one read when I posted Jay Z at NYU, etc. Nah, you guys are quoting the fukking inquistr which no American reads to point out that Tidal is failing. At what do you realize this all looks ridiculous?

You said this just less than 24 hours ago.

This is what a dishonest nikka looks like. Why can you not just say you hate that nikka Hov and stop trying to rationalize it? We have gone over this 8 million times that apple takes a 30% cut off the top. So you could, you know go on the tidal website itself and get the 30 day free trial. Beyond fake.

See what I mean @Data-Hawk. I''m done discusssing this ever again

It's literally on the page right before this one




Camel Caping is a more powerful addiction than opiates

 

[wire28]

You said this just less than 24 hours ago.



It's literally on the page right before this one




Camel Caping is a more powerful addiction than opiates

i was gonna bring that up, but i was gonna let him cook tho

if you want to break it down to the actual product( pricing aside)

then spotify have more songs, I expect tidal to build their catalogue within the next years

Tidals music player is actually better than spotify,

Tidal is perfect for independent artist

Spotify has just included videos(and also a podcast option)which is good...

the free option on spotify will have to change in order to compete, but for now its a good plus

Tidal have better exclusives( they will always have that over spotify because of jay).....

overall jay can maneuver more than spotify,because of what he owns within the music industry

I expect apple to blow tidal and spotify out the water but the pie is still big enough for all three to eat good

yeah and its not like i even want the shyt to fail i dont give a fukk, i barely care about streaming at all. but his whole set up was a cluster fukk. from the pretentious first impression to the pandering to black folk to expecting people to scramble to pay for an unknown entity headlined by polarizing personalities like kanye west and madonna.

his best bet is just to actually remove himself from the big picture and let the product win on its on. you can still have all the exclusives and stuff. its just going to be tough now because everyone has a face to associate with the product, which was the good and bad of making that decision to market it that way

 

[blackslash]

Lol cuz I don't like your father figure Jay I'm a fake ass hip hop fan? I don't respect the dude, sorry if it offends you. And I can assure you my hip hop knowledge and music collection far exceeds yours.

Jay isn't remotely in the same class as Pac Nas and Big. Bragging his whole career. The other 3 had much more to them.

Yes you are a fake ass hip hop fan because you said that because jay rapped bragodocious rhymes based on materialism..that we should revel in his failures....that's a statement only a fake ass hip hop fan can make...bragodocious rhyming is a main staple in our culture founded on the competitive nature of our culture. From nas to big to wayne to tip to Jeezy to LL Cool J to drake...spitting bragodocious rhymes based on wealth is a main staple and u say we need to revel because of such traits? Yea u are a fake ass hip hop fan who doesn't understand this culture or blacks for that matter. You are without a doubt a cracks so stfu and speak nothing of my culture again you fake ass hip hop fan.