Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
16-9 in playoffs.
What does Duncan do in 06 with
Smush Parker
Devin Green/Laron Profit
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown?
Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant according to ESPN writer
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What does Duncan do in 06 with
Smush Parker
Devin Green/Laron Profit
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown?
and yet Kobe won the player of the decade award by both the SportingNews and TNT
stop it cac
Kobe will be the one who is remembered as the best player of the 00s.
80s - Magic & Bird
90s - MJ
00s - Kobe
10s - LeBron
thats it
yall are so reactionary
tim duncan had a great year and yall went crazy
whats funny is kobe was still better this year
tim duncan had a great year and yall went crazy
whats funny is kobe was still better this year
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
David Robinson guarded Shaq when they played the Lakers. You dudes quit rewriting history.
And Duncan could have 7 rings if Kobe didn't own the Spurs soul! Kobe is 4 - 2 against the Spurs in the playoffs. Why do people just gloss over that? How can you claim to be better than player A if he has constantly beat you in the playoffs? I know ya'll trolling at this point. Aint nobody out there that don't know about these games...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfR2pDOt3k"]Kobe Bryant greatest games (2001 playoffs): 36pts 9rbds 8asts in game 3 vs Spurs - YouTube[/ame]
But this is a sidekick?
Oh and he beat Duncan 3 times with Shaq and 1 time without.
20 point comeback
39 pts 3 rebs 3 assts
Come on man. Tim Duncan has a claim to greatness, but when it comes to being better than Bean, the results just don't add up.
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all top 15 though
all top 15 though
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
You're the one rewriting history because that's bullshyt. Duncan mostly guarded Shaq, not Robinson and vice versa.David Robinson only averaged 21 mpg that series in 03. He was guarding Slava Medvedenko, lol. His minutes were in the 20s in all ththose series in the early 2000's against the Lakers. The most minutes he ever had in a game against the Lakers then was 31 one game.
Duncan was one him. Look at the videos, look at the boxscores. And he has always been able to take it to Shaq when he's guarding him.
You can even hear the announcer say it around the 5 minute mark in this video, "They're not going to double Shaq that's not the gameplan."
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6AgYWdoBQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
David Robinson only averaged 21 mpg that series in 03. He was guarding Slava Medvedenko, lol. His minutes were in the 20s in all ththose series in the early 2000's against the Lakers. The most minutes he ever had in a game against the Lakers then was 31 one game.
Duncan was one him. Look at the videos, look at the boxscores. And he has always been able to take it to Shaq when he's guarding him.
You can even hear the announcer say it around the 5 minute mark in this video, "They're not going to double Shaq that's not the gameplan."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6AgYWdoBQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So what happened in 01 and 02? So you want me to take 1 year out of the 3 and conclude that Duncan guarded Shaq more than Robinson. You gotta be fukking kidding me! Robinson did the heavy lifting on Shaq, the only time Duncan guarded Shaq was when Robinson was in foul trouble.
LMAO @ you bringing up 03 like I would forget that 01 and 02 existed, FOH!!!!
Duncan's finals averages: 22.7 points, 14.4 rebounds, 3.4 assists and three blocks per game
Including the following games:
32 points 20 rebounds 6 assists 7 blocks 3 steals
21 points 20 rebounds 10 assists 8 blocks
29 points 17 rebounds 4 blocks 4 steals
Unimpeachable.
I've always said that 2nd stat line is one of the most underrated clutch games of all time. And I think it was the close out game with almost a quadruple double.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Did you even read my post? Once again, David Robinson averaged minutes in the 20's IN EVERY SERIES BETWEEN 00-03 AGAINST THE LAKERS. Look it up yourself.2001 NBA Western Conference Finals | Basketball-Reference.com
2002 NBA Western Conference Semifinals | Basketball-Reference.com
2003 NBA Western Conference Semifinals | Basketball-Reference.com
Everybody knows Duncan mostly guarded Shaq because he defended him better than Robinson.
@you getting exposed for not watching games and making shyt up. Lol@D-Rob doing most of the "heavy lifting" against Shaq.Pop is a great coach no doubt but let's not act like Duncan didn't make him just as much if not more than he made Duncan. Tim was the best big man prospect since Shaq and would have been the first pick every year since his sophomore year of college. Him having success in the NBA was all but assured barring major injury. He was that good and he would have even made Del Negro look like a good coach. But Pop is a great one though but to act like Duncan wouldn't have succeeded without him is wrong.
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
2001 NBA Western Conference Finals | Basketball-Reference.com
2002 NBA Western Conference Semifinals | Basketball-Reference.com
2003 NBA Western Conference Semifinals | Basketball-Reference.com
Everybody knows Duncan mostly guarded Shaq because he defended him better than Robinson.
fukk!!!!!
CNNSI.com - 2001 NBA Playoffs - Spurs shrug off Lakers' war of words - Saturday May 19, 2001 01:28 PM
Jackson doesn't like to double-team anybody, even though Duncan will have a big advantage one-on-one against either Grant or Robert Horry.
"They're going to need to double him," Sean Elliott said. "If you try to guard him, I think you'll see what can happen real quick. Everybody's been talking about how we're going to match up with Shaq and Kobe. Well, we have the best record in the league."
LEt me blow one of your claims out of the water. Shaq didn't do most of the heavy lifting on Duncan. It was Grant or Horry! You said "Duncan mostly guarded Shaq, not Robinson and vice versa."
And what the fukk does a boxscore prove. And fukk you! I know Robinson did the heay lifting on Shaq BECAUSE I watched the fukking games! What does 29 minutes prove? What was he doing for those 29 minutes of a 48 minute game? Was he guarding Robert Horry, maybe Derek Fisher, fukking idiot! He only played 29 minutes because Shaq kept him in foul trouble while he was, wait for it....GUARDING SHAQ!
And in 02, what the hell do you think Malik Rose was on that squad for? He guarded Shaq! Watching Lakers games is what I do, don't ever insult me again talmnbout "exposing" and "not watching games" Muthafukka PLEASE!!!
Lakerman0834
Veteran
feasting on a garbage ass eastern conference lol Shaq was throwing down 40 20 games on the stiffs of the East not that impressive braugh
Kobe really has Spurs fans, Duncan stans and Heat stans coming together to say the most nonsensical and revisionist shyt
Let these guys tell it Tim Duncan went up against competent competition in all of his NBA finals (except that was only true once...against Detroit), and that he took bum shooters and defensive players to titles and that he's ever had a team as bad as what Kobe had from 04 to 07. Let them tell it that him being the best big man in today's NBA without a single 20 and 10 big man is more impressive than Kobe still being a top 5 player in a league dominated by wing players. Let them tell it somehow Duncan "let parker take advantage of a match up" in the 07 finals against the Cavs while Shaq had to carry Kobe in the NBA finals against the Todd McColloughs of the world after Kobe had just obliterated the Spurs in the WCF.
Let them tell it, that Tim Duncan winning a second ring while being clearly the second best player on his team will enhance his legacy while Kobe doing the same while being a top 5 player in the NBA detracts from his. Let them tell it, Pau Gasol being clearly the second best player on the Lakers during Kobe's last 3 trips to the finals takes away from Kobe's rings while Tony Parker being the best player on Tim's team for two straight finals trips doesn't affect his at all.
Let them tell it, that Kobe being the best player in a Lakers-Spurs series once again, even without Shaq and coming back from double digit deficits against the Spurs with a young team that had never won a playoff series before (and who Phil Jackson thought was one year early) means nothing. This while Duncan's second option Parker outplayed Kobe's second option Gasol the entire series.
There's an argument to be made for Tim, and he doesn't need this bullshyt hyperbole and biased nonsense.
Let these guys tell it Tim Duncan went up against competent competition in all of his NBA finals (except that was only true once...against Detroit), and that he took bum shooters and defensive players to titles and that he's ever had a team as bad as what Kobe had from 04 to 07. Let them tell it that him being the best big man in today's NBA without a single 20 and 10 big man is more impressive than Kobe still being a top 5 player in a league dominated by wing players. Let them tell it somehow Duncan "let parker take advantage of a match up" in the 07 finals against the Cavs while Shaq had to carry Kobe in the NBA finals against the Todd McColloughs of the world after Kobe had just obliterated the Spurs in the WCF.
Let them tell it, that Tim Duncan winning a second ring while being clearly the second best player on his team will enhance his legacy while Kobe doing the same while being a top 5 player in the NBA detracts from his. Let them tell it, Pau Gasol being clearly the second best player on the Lakers during Kobe's last 3 trips to the finals takes away from Kobe's rings while Tony Parker being the best player on Tim's team for two straight finals trips doesn't affect his at all.
Let them tell it, that Kobe being the best player in a Lakers-Spurs series once again, even without Shaq and coming back from double digit deficits against the Spurs with a young team that had never won a playoff series before (and who Phil Jackson thought was one year early) means nothing. This while Duncan's second option Parker outplayed Kobe's second option Gasol the entire series.
There's an argument to be made for Tim, and he doesn't need this bullshyt hyperbole and biased nonsense.