Tom Brady has surpassed Joe Montana as the GOAT – Stephen A. | First Take

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

well he started first


there's no argument can be made against the brady. he's the only player without the argument.

nikkas argue KAJ is better than jordan. not alot of them, but there are people out there. KAJ got a 6 rings 5 mvps and he dominated for 2 decades. jordan is the GOAT, but i understand why some say KAJ is the GOAT.


brady? you can't argue against it. if montana went 6 for 6? now that's an argument you can make. but brady got 1 more SB and got to 5 more SBs. not arguable.

The only thing you are discussing is rings, always a flawed argument. Marino >>>>>> Eli Manning but Manning has two Super Bowls and Marino has none.

 

[Brief Keef]

5-4 for brady comin up

 

[Brief Keef]

Yes Brady is the goat qb but got dammit I’m sick of seeing him in the super bowl. How the hell there isn’t one competent coach in the afc that can beat him for one game.

It’s definitely the act of god or some other extra terrestrial shyt

dont blame the ravens or broncos

 

[Reggie]

Brady is the goat quarterback especially when it comes postseason play. If he gets number 6 it's just icing on the cake for him. No diss to Joe or Peyton but Tom has did it with a lot less help over the years than they had.

 

[gtj1982]

Joe>>>>>Brady.

I've been around for both in their prime. Now I would say Belicheat is probably the greatest coach ever but that's where it stops

 

[mastermind]

Montana is better but tom is really good. The nfl changing the rules extended his career longer and allowed to compete longer at a high level because you cant hit qbs no more

the 1978 rule changes lead to Montana's career.

You can't complain about on rule change while ignoring the other.

Brady is the GOAT and surpassed Montana many years ago.

 

[King P]

Keep this in mind. Montana was 4-0 in the Super Bowl. He threw 11 TDs and zero interceptions. Not one mistake made ever in a Super Bowl.

If Lewis Billups doesn't drop this ball, that whole narrative changes

 

[JLova]

Toms the GOAT yet lost to a backup and Eli twice? Maybe they should be HOFers then. Or maybe an actual team around you helps along with a top flight coaching staff.

Joe wasn’t losing to inferior teams. Also wasn’t in the sidelines watching his kicker win the game for him twice.

Tim is great but y’all got selective memory

 

[JLova]

People who only watch the NBA do not belong in this discussion.

 

[LeMAO]

Tom Brady will eventually complete the rings for his Infinity Gauntlet and snap all the doubters

 

[premier58]

Toms the GOAT yet lost to a backup and Eli twice? Maybe they should be HOFers then. Or maybe an actual team around you helps along with a top flight coaching staff.

Joe wasn’t losing to inferior teams. Also wasn’t in the sidelines watching his kicker win the game for him twice.

Tim is great but y’all got selective memory

Joe Montana didnt lose to Wade Wilson and Jeff Hostetler in the playoffs at home??

 

[Max Power]

Why are you quoting Stephen A like he knows anything about football? The guy doesn't know shyt apart from basketball gossip and chatty patty nonsense... He's the male Rachel Nichols.

 

[Jplaya2023]

the 1978 rule changes lead to Montana's career.

You can't complain about on rule change while ignoring the other.

Brady is the GOAT and surpassed Montana many years ago.

that rule change was for how receivers were covered. Montana still was getting killed in the pocket along with other qbs as well.

They created a rule for tom brady because he got hurt. true or false? they also changed the wr contact rule after the colts cried after 2004. Both rules benefitted tom and other QBs and allowed them to play longer in the nfl.

Also let me ask you a question. Had seattle ran the ball, and the pats don't get the strip sack on ryan (brady had 0 to do with either) would you still hold your position of tom surpassing joe years ago?

 

[Jplaya2023]

Joe Montana didnt lose to Wade Wilson and Jeff Hostetler in the playoffs at home??

He sure did. Joe never lost a SB, and played in a tougher conference (NFC won 13 straight SBs) and didn't have a cakewalk to the SB every year like tom does.

If tom was 8-0 in the SBs then i couldn't say shyt about him, but he's 6-3 which is great but it goes to show you he lost 3 times on the biggest stage.

 

[feelosofer]

You make the argument for Tom but one thing is true Joe Montana had a way tougher path on the way to his Championships. Had to play very Cowboys, Bears, Giants, hell even in the division the teams weren't cakewalks.

As long as Brady is in the NFC East he is almost guaranteed a 1st round bye. Makes it alot easier to go through the playoffs.