Top 10 NBA Player List: #7 of all-time

Who is the SEVENTH (7th) greatest player of all-time?


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What you mean Shaq hated it? Obviously he prefers to dump himself in the post but he could easily play PnR with Bron...and it was effective with Kobe, especially since Kobe was a dangerous shooter

Wade was the better playoff player in 2011 probably would have won Finals MVP if Miami got through but since then it was all LeBron over the next 3 years and Wade/Bosh were pretty inconsistent. But you're right in that it isn't the same as Payton/Malone. I'm just referring to the franchise player thing...and regardless of how good his team was, out of the 4 Finals, he was favoured twice and not favourite twice and sure enough he went 2-2.

I'm not denying Kobe's greatness as a teammate I think he proved that in his late championship run about 6-7 years ago. But LeBron has always made his teammates better, giving me one or two exceptions to the rule does not make it a rule. He made Mo Williams and Daniel Gibson lethal shooters. He enhanced Ilgauskas' game. He's made something out of freaking Iman Shumpert. It's not a one man game, and LeBron's generally selfless nature has allowed teammates to flourish. When he needs to take over, he does.

Kobe never faced a team in the Finals as great as this Warriors team, whether you wanna admit it or not. You say 50 point games when Kobe hasn't even sniffed a 50 point game in the Finals...so there's really no reason to believe that at all.


lol the boston team kobe beat was way better than the warriors (at least the ones that showed up in the finals)……kobe hasnt played a fast-paced offense like the warriors in the finals, it was usually grind-it-out east coast basketball he was up against, so he didnt really have a chance to score 50….the closest was against orlando when they played somewhat of a more uptempo style (but still not comparable to GS)….


as for bron makin his teammates better….he made a lot of his teammates worse, actually, if u check the files. he turned stars like bosh and love into role players, and superstars like wade into fillers………i mean, the guy doesnt get nearly as much out his teammates as kobe did.

and the end of the day, it's kobe >>>>>> lebron in reality. u can even ask the all-time greats, including ones he played with, they all say kobe with confidence:

Shaq would pick Kobe Bryant over LeBron James in their primes

NBA News: Dwyane Wade Says Kobe Is Greatest Player In His Era - Lakers Nation

Jordan would take Kobe over LeBron

Kevin Durant says Kobe Bryant is the GOAT (along with Jordan)


but u let these coli casuals tell it, and they know more than the goats do.
 

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sccit, how many of those quotes were before The Block in game 7?

and ron artest, the guy who saved kobe just as much as you like to say Ray saved lebron, says Bron is the greatest ever.
 

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sccit, how many of those quotes were before The Block in game 7?

and ron artest, the guy who saved kobe just as much as you like to say Ray saved lebron, says Bron is the greatest ever.


of course im postin the opinion of credible basketball goats and u go and post the quote of a man who says he learned how to cook crack at 13

difference between ron artest and ray allen threes, lakers woulda won witout that artest three goin in, it was jus icing on the cake, while ray allen misses that three, or 1 step further, duncan is in the game to rebound over bosh, or 1 step further, kawhi doesnt miss that free throw….its over for bron. not the same.
 

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of course im postin the opinion of credible basketball goats and u go and post the quote of a man who says he learned how to cook crack at 13

difference between ron artest and ray allen threes, lakers woulda won witout that artest three goin in, it was jus icing on the cake, while ray allen misses that three, or 1 step further, duncan is in the game to rebound over bosh, or 1 step further, kawhi doesnt miss that free throw….its over for bron. not the same.

so why do you blame Duncan for never repeating if it wasnt his fault Ray hit that 3?
 

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Kobe is no question Top 5. You can't be Top 5 unless you defend your title. Defending titles was seen as the ultimate form of greatness until Kobe started doing it on a regular basis.

The Ultimate Ether of Kobe winning without Shaq has had BSPN, Sports Media, Laker Haters and Kobe Stans(Haters) back peddling the last 5-6 years. Coaches and Peers(including Bron) have Kobe over Duncan and Bron. But cacs and c00ns take the word of the Media(same media who has criminalized Black people for over 100 years) as gospel. It's beyond :demonic: friends
 

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Kobe is no question Top 5. You can't be Top 5 unless you defend your title. Defending titles was seen as the ultimate form of greatness until Kobe started doing it on a regular basis.

The Ultimate Ether of Kobe winning without Shaq has had BSPN, Sports Media, Laker Haters and Kobe Stans(Haters) back peddling the last 5-6 years. Coaches and Peers(including Bron) have Kobe over Duncan and Bron. But cacs and c00ns take the word of the Media(same media who has criminalized Black people for over 100 years) as gospel. It's beyond :demonic: friends

by this logic Russell should be number one...7 time defending champ. 5x MVP. owned Wilts soul too.
 

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Kobe is no question Top 5. You can't be Top 5 unless you defend your title. Defending titles was seen as the ultimate form of greatness until Kobe started doing it on a regular basis.

The Ultimate Ether of Kobe winning without Shaq has had BSPN, Sports Media, Laker Haters and Kobe Stans(Haters) back peddling the last 5-6 years. Coaches and Peers(including Bron) have Kobe over Duncan and Bron. But cacs and c00ns take the word of the Media(same media who has criminalized Black people for over 100 years) as gospel. It's beyond :demonic: friends


exacty….the overall media driven narrative on kobe took a turn when he fucced that white hoe in colorado to be precise.
 

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it was his fault….because he part of the team n he wasnt in the game at that moment. kobe woulda never let that happen.

yet Kobe let detroit preform the first 5 game sweep.in finals history?

kobe let alot of things happen
 

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yet Kobe let detroit preform the first 5 game sweep.in finals history?

kobe let alot of things happen

Duncan let the Grizz perform the 3rd 8th seed upset in NBA History. Lose to to an 8 seed breh.

How many Sliding Door sweeps with home court advantage has Timmy let happen? 2004/2012.

Has Kobe ever NOT made the Finals as a #1 seed?

Has Duncan ever defended his title?

Has Duncan ever made the playoffs without a Hall of Fame coach? Kobe is 5-11 while Duncan is 5-19 with a Hall of Fame coach.

Duncan is a legendary player who folds more times then not when the Bulls eye is on his back, Kobe has had a Bulls eyes on his back since he wore those goofy sun glasses on top of his head in 96.
 
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