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[Draje]

2011 NBA Finals | Basketball-Reference.com

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So you say Wade was better than Lebron based solely off of Finals stats but say finals stats don't matter when saying Kobe was the sidekick and 2nd option on the Shaq led Lakers?

 

[Gangstar8]

So you say Wade was better than Lebron based solely off of Finals stats but say finals stats don't matter when saying Kobe was the sidekick and 2nd option on the Shaq led Lakers?

someone neg this stupid fakkit

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

So you say Wade was better than Lebron based solely off of Finals stats but say finals stats don't matter when saying Kobe was the sidekick and 2nd option on the Shaq led Lakers?

forgetting the stats Wade was the better player in the playoffs of 2011, certainly the Finals at least

 

[Teko]

lol bro lebron is 3/7 in finals play, wit 2 of those finals being won by sheer luck (draymond suspension/steph choking & bosh rebound due to duncan benching/ray allen three)…..now, im not here to discredit his 3 rings, but lets be honest. the over/under on how many finals lebron woulda made if he played out west is 3, and thats bein generous.

duncan….lmfao. the guy whos been role player status for the past 7 years or so?? the guy whos team was competing for a ring wit him averaging 7 points a game?? i dont even need to defend this one, kill that noise.

shaq…okay, shaq is a tough one. he coulda been the goat if he had the proper work ethich…but he didnt. and kobe proved he was the better one when he won 2 more without shaq, while shaq struggled to win another one playing behind wade. so this one been deaded too.




want me to truly explain to yall why u guys rank kobe so low? its because of bspn…..scoop jackson has went on record to say that the writing staff at bspn is mainly comprised of anti-kobe dudes who love them some lebron, young frat boys who swear by the king and do whatever they can to tarnish kobe's legacy. like some of the posters we find here at the coli…only, they are much more hazardous to the general public, because they help the consensus generate an opinion wit the garbo they spew….so the casuals have been fed this narrative of kobe not really bein goat level when his play has said otherwise, and an equally bogus narrative of lebron being on the level of michael jordan, when his play clearly indicates he isn't…..so this bullshiit has been shoved down yall throats for so long that you jus consume it wit no questions asked. it's a shame, really…but my basketball purists know whatsup.

Lebron has 3FMVPs and Kobe only 2, 4 regular season MVPs to 1 etc; Look at their career stats and individual accomplishments and come back to us.
Also, we can play your little petty game of what ifs all day long. Steph didnt choke, Cleveland guards him very well. Dray played in games 3, 6 and 7 and before the respective games, you claimed that GSW was going to win anyway. Now that you lost like a punk ass, you move the posts. Lebron torched them in a near 1-man show last season and but ran out of gas because of the short rotation. Ray Allen played for MIA and he was supposed to make that 3pt shot because he was open, Lebron and Chalmers were also open and there was more than enough time for Ray to have passed the ball back to them to take the open 3 shot; Are you suggesting that Lebron should have attempted the shot and then gone to the other side of the court by himself to grab the rebound and attempt the 3 again? Its 5 v 5 and every player on the caught is supposed to make plays. Also, who brought the Heat back from that huge deficit in that same game? Who lit up the Spurs in the title clintching game?
Horry made tons of shots for San Antonio and the Lakers. Without Shaq, Kobe only has 2 championships. Derek Fischer, Ron Artest, Gasol etc made key plays in the finals. Steve kerr, John Paxston made key plays for the Bulls and SA.

 

[Jplaya2023]

what is up with these coli posters and this "new math" bullshyt they're on.

Lebron is not 3-7 in the finals, he's 3-4 in the finals. SMH

And larry legend is 4th not 7th

 

[smitty22]

Lol Lebron, Duncan, and Shaq over Kobe n peeps still takin this list seriously

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

cant wait til it comes down the king and mj

its inevitable

 

[No1]

This poll is flawed because people splitting the vote trying to get Bird and Bill out of there. Should've said vote for top 2.

 

[FS4LFE]

Tobe stans in their feelings.

 

[Bilz]

lol bro lebron is 3/7 in finals play, wit 2 of those finals being won by sheer luck (draymond suspension/steph choking & bosh rebound due to duncan benching/ray allen three)…..now, im not here to discredit his 3 rings, but lets be honest. the over/under on how many finals lebron woulda made if he played out west is 3, and thats bein generous.

duncan….lmfao. the guy whos been role player status for the past 7 years or so?? the guy whos team was competing for a ring wit him averaging 7 points a game?? i dont even need to defend this one, kill that noise.

shaq…okay, shaq is a tough one. he coulda been the goat if he had the proper work ethich…but he didnt. and kobe proved he was the better one when he won 2 more without shaq, while shaq struggled to win another one playing behind wade. so this one been deaded too.




want me to truly explain to yall why u guys rank kobe so low? its because of bspn…..scoop jackson has went on record to say that the writing staff at bspn is mainly comprised of anti-kobe dudes who love them some lebron, young frat boys who swear by the king and do whatever they can to tarnish kobe's legacy. like some of the posters we find here at the coli…only, they are much more hazardous to the general public, because they help the consensus generate an opinion wit the garbo they spew….so the casuals have been fed this narrative of kobe not really bein goat level when his play has said otherwise, and an equally bogus narrative of lebron being on the level of michael jordan, when his play clearly indicates he isn't…..so this bullshiit has been shoved down yall throats for so long that you jus consume it wit no questions asked. it's a shame, really…but my basketball purists know whatsup.

Didn't Scoop Jackson pick Kobe to lead the Lakers out of the west in 2005 after Shaq left?

This is like when foxnews calls itself moderate and says every other network is slanted.

 

[Bilz]

it was his fault….because he part of the team n he wasnt in the game at that moment. kobe woulda never let that happen.

Kobe let Shawn Marion get an offensive rebound and he let Tim Thomas get a wide open 3 in an almost identical situation.

 

[Ben.]

Kobe is no question Top 5. You can't be Top 5 unless you defend your title. Defending titles was seen as the ultimate form of greatness until Kobe started doing it on a regular basis.

The Ultimate Ether of Kobe winning without Shaq has had BSPN, Sports Media, Laker Haters and Kobe Stans(Haters) back peddling the last 5-6 years. Coaches and Peers(including Bron) have Kobe over Duncan and Bron. But cacs and c00ns take the word of the Media(same media who has criminalized Black people for over 100 years) as gospel. It's beyond friends

Kobe no question top 5 if you're a kobe dikkrider

Kobe nowhere near the top 5. Prime too weak, no dominant chip run, weak finals performer.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

This poll is flawed because people splitting the vote trying to get Bird and Bill out of there. Should've said vote for top 2.

I agree that there may be an issue with voting this way...but you just have to hope people vote for their genuine pick rather than eliminating someone to help proceedings based on poll results

but what is the purpose of voting top 2?

 

[No1]

I agree that there may be an issue with voting this way...but you just have to hope people vote for their genuine pick rather than eliminating someone to help proceedings based on poll results

but what is the purpose of voting top 2?

The same reason MVP voting requires you to vote 1 through 5. You state preferences and then someone wins based on points. Someone can win something off a cluster of votes from one faction even though no one else agrees, but the dissent's votes are dispersed. It's how I always do these things anyway

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

The same reason MVP voting requires you to vote 1 through 5. You state preferences and then someone wins based on points. Someone can win something off a cluster of votes from one faction even though no one else agrees, but the dissent's votes are dispersed. It's how I always do these things anyway

ah the points-based system...gotcha

yeah that would have worked

how d'you rank those who never receive votes though

let's say we end with with 3/4 players out the 10 without receiving votes

my idea was to get the order from 10-1, but there are flaws with this method. You just have to trust peoples' polling integrity lol