In my iTunes, I actually put it in MATW. I put it at the end so the album can end on a positive note.
Tupac Shakur - "Changes" - Let's Talk About This Timeless Piece
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In my iTunes, I actually put it in MATW. I put it at the end so the album can end on a positive note.
Mac Casper
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Tommy Tuffnuts
Pro
top 5 hip hop song of all time. the lyrics are timeless and powerful.
"tired of bein poor and even worse i'm black my stomach hurt so i'm lookin 4 a purse to snatch. cops give a damn about a negro pull da trigga kill a nikka he's a hero"
"tired of bein poor and even worse i'm black my stomach hurt so i'm lookin 4 a purse to snatch. cops give a damn about a negro pull da trigga kill a nikka he's a hero"
Greenhornet
A God Among Kings
cats that cant rap judging lyrics ... interesting
Timeless and heartbreaking when you realize his own words came back to haunt him.
I gotta stay strapped
And I never get to lay back.
Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs.
Some buck that I roughed up way back
I gotta stay strapped
And I never get to lay back.
Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs.
Some buck that I roughed up way back
nineteeneightysix
Banned
Exactly what Im saying...Pac was never lyrical but he made classic music
All Im sayin is this song is proof lyricism is the least important aspect of makin a classic rap record
That song is the definition of lyricism...
So, you think random similes here and there, recycled punchlines, and forced double entendres with no introspection and message is what lyricism is all about...?
Why is changes lyrical?
Because Pac used the right words to convey his message in a very effective way...
And because of this skill, we are sitting here still appreciating the lyrical content of the song...
BlackZilla
M0derator
Nas is my fav rapper, but I can't deny Tupac's status as the GOAT. He was alone on his own tier.
No breh just no
Thats has to do more with his delivery and message..
Being lyrical is the technical aspect of rap aside from flow(with exception to the aspect of alliteration) and delivery.
Pac was never lyrical
Nas is lyrical
Jay is lyrical
Biggie is lyrical
Pac is not lyrical
He was never about writing metaphors, double/triple entendres, using heavy uses of alliteration which portrays a talent of owning the english vocabulary..
etc.
Pac was never that.
And the fact you call those things forced shows me you arent a rap artist..
To downplay the creativity of lyricism in that way as to call it forced shows that you dont understand why a writer would creatively portray a message with those technical aspects.
It is Pac's delivery..the emotion u can feel in his words, his messages and his character that makes him as beloved as much as he is
Dnt you ever ever ever in your life attribute the aspect of lyricism to him
Rapmastermind
Superstar
The song is Classic but let's be real. The Version people LOVE, Pac never heard. It's basically a remix created after death. It's like "Dead Wrong". It's a Classic "Post-Death" song but the fact Pac never heard that version I can't give it the same credit as song Pac actually made. Sure there is an OG version but this version people LOVE again Pac never heard that version. So I classify it more as a great Post-Death remix song. Lyrics were dope.
No breh just no
Thats has to do more with his delivery and message..
Being lyrical is the technical aspect of rap aside from flow(with exception to the aspect of alliteration) and delivery.
Pac was never lyrical
Nas is lyrical
Jay is lyrical
Biggie is lyrical
Pac is not lyrical
He was never about writing metaphors, double/triple entendres, using heavy uses of alliteration which portrays a talent of owning the english vocabulary..
etc.
Pac was never that.
And the fact you call those things forced shows me you arent a rap artist..
To downplay the creativity of lyricism in that way as to call it forced shows that you dont understand why a writer would creatively portray a message with those technical aspects.
It is Pac's delivery..the emotion u can feel in his words, his messages and his character that makes him as beloved as much as he is
Dnt you ever ever ever in your life attribute the aspect of lyricism to him
Tupac = Singer with a raw but, passionate voice
Biggie, Nas = Singer who can hit any note but, lacks that raw emotion
Rappers like Nas and Lupe are so lyrical, they make words melt together like a Dali painting. Surrealist type shyt
Pac wasn't that. Let's not kid ourselves. Its not a bad thing tho. You can be as lyrical as you want, if there's no meaning/passion behind the words, its just a bunch of nonsense.*cue any Canibus song post-2000*
BlackZilla
M0derator
No breh just no
Thats has to do more with his delivery and message..
Being lyrical is the technical aspect of rap aside from flow(with exception to the aspect of alliteration) and delivery.
Pac was never lyrical
Nas is lyrical
Jay is lyrical
Biggie is lyrical
Pac is not lyrical
He was never about writing metaphors, double/triple entendres, using heavy uses of alliteration which portrays a talent of owning the english vocabulary..
etc.
Pac was never that.
And the fact you call those things forced shows me you arent a rap artist..
To downplay the creativity of lyricism in that way as to call it forced shows that you dont understand why a writer would creatively portray a message with those technical aspects.
It is Pac's delivery..the emotion u can feel in his words, his messages and his character that makes him as beloved as much as he is
Dnt you ever ever ever in your life attribute the aspect of lyricism to him
Hm...looks like for once I actually agree with you. Guys like Pac, Prodigy (Before his decline) and DMX are the kind of rappers that aren't overly lyrical, but their delivery, character and cadence make up for it and still allows them to make classic joints.
I also wanna add that you can make classic records regardless of whether you're lyrical or not, as long as you can use your strong points (Either lyrcism or delivery or whatever) to make good music.
So
@ those dissin' the art of lyricism in rap.
According to that faqqit blackslash Bob Dylan isnt a lyricist too..since he also liked to tell stories and keep his art simple. 
I appreciate both styles..metaphors, punchlines etc imo are great in battles..like we have to today with the URL..rapper face to face in front of the camera trying to OUTRAP each other.
When it comes to overall music..I'd rather hear the simple but great message hip hop songs.
There's a reason why rappers like Talib Kweli or Ras Kass aren't as appreciated as Pac or Cube.
I appreciate both styles..metaphors, punchlines etc imo are great in battles..like we have to today with the URL..rapper face to face in front of the camera trying to OUTRAP each other.
When it comes to overall music..I'd rather hear the simple but great message hip hop songs.
There's a reason why rappers like Talib Kweli or Ras Kass aren't as appreciated as Pac or Cube.
BlackZilla
M0derator
So people don't appreciate Nas, Big or Rakim or Em? (The more "lyrical" rappers).
It's like I said before, you can make good music using either style...it's just how well you use whatever technique you're using.