Tyga Deep In Birdman's Bushes Update: Mack Maine Responds

[Serious]

pretty much everything in this post is wrong


I'm not sure what hits you're talking about...but Hookah was a flopped single...it spent like 1 week on the charts at like #89, then fell off completely...LIfestyle is a top 25 on the Hot 100 song, and spent like a month as the #1 song on Urban radio this summer...there is really no comparison


I'm gonna assume you mean Twist...Being seen with people =/= hit records...unless Beiber's team signed off on a feature for Twist that got him a hit instead of doing everything in their power to keep him away from their artist, none of that means anything

Neither Mannie nor Juvie are signed to Cash Money...Juvie is cool with Baby again and has been running around with him and in the entourage repping Rich Gang and sh!t, but far as I know is still technically signed to Rap-a-Lot...where he released his past 2 albums that not a single fukk were given bout (but let it even be rumored that he's back with CMR and there's now some big concern bout the state of his career )

Busta and Mystikal realistically shouldn't even have ever been signed, and cash money was stupid to do so...they're at a point in their career where they are simply not major label level rap acts...you mention Busta being on Aftermath for so many years like that was an especially fruitful situation or something...the whole time he was there he released only 1 album that delayed heavily and got dropped because he couldn't get a 2nd lp released because Jimmy considered the first one a flop...signed to Universal/Motown and put out BOMB, which flopped...was about to get dropped from Universal but linked up with Cash Money to save the deal...and couldn't produce a hit single ...I know the label is always the bad guys from the fans perspective, because they're standing in the way between us and the music with their pesky need to make money and keep the doors open..but not releasing projects that you KNOW are gonna flop is sound business...it's just that these ddues aren't psychics and don't know what's a good or bad signing before the fact, or sometimes just sign people for sentimental reasons... take Mystikal...it's so easy to go "oh Cash Money ruined and wasted his career" now that wanted to leave the label...but he was out of prison for 2 years before he signed with them and didn't have jack shyt to show for it but a couple of youtube videos of him freestyling in Mannie's truck on the side of the road...no other labels were looking to sign him then and when CMR did decide to reach out he was giving interviews like they had just saved his life...fast forward two years, no hit records and his project is stalled...shyt happens it's the record business...something like only 35% of signed artists actually release an album...only a fraction of those albums that do come out turn a profit...labels make a gamble everytime they sign an act, and only make money cause of the small % of them that turn out to be stars..90's rappers like Bust and Mystikal should be on indie or low-budget major owned niche boutique labels where there is no expectation of hitmaking..small budget with minimal marketing so they don't have to sell much


It's either getting pushed back or they're going Beyonce shock-release with it..i alluded to this before...wayne is the label's signature act...if he's not above getting pushed back when a single underperforms or timing isn't right...how are y;all in here with a straight face talking about youtube hits for floped singles and "politics" because Tyga can't get his 3rd album in 3 years fast tracked off the back of going 49k first week his last time out ... Cash Money is far from a perfect label but GOOD LUCK to him finding a label after they drop him that is gonna treat an act of his level and track record as some kind of priority...we're 300 posts deep in this thread like damn near every established rap act on Def Jam, acts with 10x the cache of tyga like Jeezy and Luda and Fab, haven't been making these same exact complaints bout their label all year...




Do i find it odd that Baby's been managing them for 6 months and they just put out a free mixtape? No...it makes perfect sense to me...

1. Quan and Thug are actually making hit records

2. Baby can't sign them to the label due to prior contractual agreements

3. He puts out their hits as "featured" acts on a single for a compilation album that may or may not ever be released and eats off the publishing

4. Since they, well Thug in particular, are caught up in label limbo and can't release a proper album at the moment...they make a free mixtape, put it out, use baby's experience and expertise to book a national tour...they eat like they're in a album cycle and baby gets his off manager's fees

In the meantime, it's not like tyga can't get a release date cause baby is preoccupied so the whole label is hsut down...they have the other principal owner Slim... tez, mack, vernon brown and a full actual label staff...not to mention the staff at Republic...all tyga needs is a hit[/QUOTE]
smh I try telling these lames



at pass me the hookah, being a hit, that shyt is garbage....

 

[NV-ME]

that Rihanna story came out back then too. she was making money off singles which she only performed, no writing nor producing and her albums weren't recouping. she was like on her 3rd album borrowing on the advance of like her 4th album. she's lucky.

as far as tyga, regardless of how he got to where he is now, you cant blame a guy for taking his career by the horns in 2014. you've got to get that content out there, so you can tour and maintain your presence in the market so he can keep his ventures/endorsements poppin. the rest of them dudes stuck in that southbeach bunk bed condo. this nigg bout to have to break that stripper off and raise that kid for 16 more years. better to start the ruckus now, rather than later when he's holmes status.

 

[Reality Check]

oh no,now the weed carrier is feeling some type of way

He chose to be a professional Weed Carrier for YMCMB and a Professional Bieber Groupie over music. Shouldn't be complaining about not getting a release date when his priorities aren't there.

 

[BigL187]

Tyga sittin on his YM bunk bed like

 

[PiffMOE7000]

IDK but Tyga has a LEGIT reason to be tight............Tyga-40 mill (produced by kanye west ) WOOOOOOOOW

 

[Droopy]

lowkey, there's a lotta knowledge in this thread on the last few pages
@Venem @Serious

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Advertising. IF you have a million dollar a day advertising budget? You will see at least a 10% percent return on your money daily. More like 20-30% but you need that extra cash to hire a firm to test/manage campaigns.

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Ok, everyone is seeing a daily 10-30% ROI on their advertising? billion dollar companies wouldn't have to sell half the shyt they do if this were true, let alone for some independent person/business. Coli MBA's and A&R's never fail to impress

 

[Couth]

Ok, everyone is seeing a daily 10-30% ROI on their advertising? billion dollar companies wouldn't have to sell half the shyt they do if this were true, let alone for some independent person/business. Coli MBA's and A&R's never fail to impress

Obvious you know nothing about business. Go sit down. Billion dollar companies invest billions of dollars into advertising every single day. They make a 10-30% return on their investment. Every single day. AKA billions of dollars. EVery single day. Which is why they are billion dollar companies in the first place.

Plenty of independent people seeing 10-30% returns on their investment daily. Ever heard of a dotcom billionaire? How bout a dotcom millionaire? You know all the kids getting rich before they hit 25 using the internet? Their advertising. The internet is run by ads. This fukking site is run by ads. Half the apps on your phone and tablet are run by ads. Obvious you don't know what the fukk you're talking about.

And yea you do see a 10-30% return on campaigns up to a certain point. At that certain point you flooded the market and its time to diversify. Thats why millionaires hire a whole fukking firm of nikkas to sit there and run tests and diversify campaigns for them.

 

[L&HH]

No not now, she was...... back in 2009 she was lost 9 Million dude to poor accounting and management, the story came out at the top of this year. If someone would have told you rihanna with all this hits was broke nobody would believe that person. Look this music shyt is all smoke n mirrors. EVERYTHING I REPEAT EVERYTHING IS RENTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMM NEAR 90% OF THE shyt YOU SEE IS RENTED! DOWN TO THE CHAINS AND WATCHES, EVEN THE THOTS IN THE VIDEOS! MOST ARE FAKE SEE FAKEWATCHBUSTA ON IG!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/12/rihanna-accountant-bankrupt_n_4773851.html

http://perezhilton.com/2014-02-12-r...-of-her-accountant-mismanagement#.VDxByPldWSo


Tyga is in a spot where they don't want him to drop his final album because then he would have finished his deal with YM. As long as he doesn't get a date. Birdman can keep raping him. They are just gonna give him the run around. "ohhh we are focusing on Lil Wayne's project...uhhhh nicki has another single we want to focus on, ummmm we want to see if you can get Justin Bieber for another record and promote it while he drops his album..uhhhh we don't think that's a good single"

You wanna know why Birdman is hanging round Thuga and Quan. He is trying to get them on his roster so he can start raping them, but you know, they sugar it by saying "we want you part of this family".

YOU KNOW BIRDMAN IS RAPING ARTIST WHEN THE YEARLY RAP EARNINGS COME OUT AND BIRDMAN IS ON THE LIST ABOVE THE PEOPLE HE HAS UNDER HIM WITH NO SINGLES OR ALBUMS OUT

Trust me when you see Thank Me Later, Take Care, and NWTS all under YMCMB/Cash Money, just know drizzy getting raped as well. It doesn't show as much cuz drizzy pulls in a lot on the road and through the ovo merch.


Now actress' and actor's on the other hand ain't no fukkery going on over there. Jlaw got her nudes leaked but he bank account is

That accountant was an idiot and should have been fired as soon as he suggested she buy a $7 million house at 21 while she's a pop superstar who won't even stay in the house for no more than a couple months at a time.

There's a couple gems in this post regarding the Rihanna thing some ppl might overlook. Rihanna only had $11 million to her name in '09. Let's keep in mind by that point she had already released 3 albums [Rated R came out at the end of '09 so I'll exclude that]. One went gold, another platinum, and the other double platinum. She also at that time had Pon De Replay - 2x platinum billboard #2 single, SOS - platinum billboard #1 single, Unfaithful - platinum billboard #6 single, Umbrella - 4x plat Billboard #1, Shut Up and Drive - plat billboard #15, Hate that I love you - plat billboard #7, Dont Stop the music - 3x plat billboard #3....All of this made well over $50 million in royalties. Granted Rihanna most likely receives jack shyt in royalties because she doesn't write [doesn't have a writing credit on any of these singles afaik]. But still the show money, merch, and endorsements yet she only had 10 milly. It puts things in perspective. All these rappers with 2 albums with a combined 400k in sales between them and maybe 2 top 40 singles can't be balling like the say they are, granted they probably make something from publishing.

 

[Serious]

That accountant was an idiot and should have been fired as soon as he suggested she buy a $7 million house at 21 while she's a pop superstar who won't even stay in the house for no more than a couple months at a time.

There's a couple gems in this post regarding the Rihanna thing some ppl might overlook. Rihanna only had $11 million to her name in '09. Let's keep in mind by that point she had already released 3 albums [Rated R came out at the end of '09 so I'll exclude that]. One went gold, another platinum, and the other double platinum. She also at that time had Pon De Replay - 2x platinum billboard #2 single, SOS - platinum billboard #1 single, Unfaithful - platinum billboard #6 single, Umbrella - 4x plat Billboard #1, Shut Up and Drive - plat billboard #15, Hate that I love you - plat billboard #7, Dont Stop the music - 3x plat billboard #3....All of this made well over $50 million in royalties. Granted Rihanna most likely receives jack shyt in royalties because she doesn't write [doesn't have a writing credit on any of these singles afaik]. But still the show money, merch, and endorsements yet she only had 10 milly. It puts things in perspective. All these rappers with 2 albums with a combined 400k in sales between them and maybe 2 top 40 singles can't be balling like the say they are, granted they probably make something from publishing.

honestly now I respect the hustle of cats like Mac Miller and Curren$y a lot more....

shytttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt I'd be on drugs in and out of rehab too, if I was getting raped like that in the pocketbook.


I swear rhinana literally had hit after hit at one point

 

[MoneyBags]

not me,..nikka is wack as fukk and only there cause he allowed someone to exploit him.


art barr

tyga is literally in my top 5 worst rappers of all time

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Obvious you know nothing about business. Go sit down. Billion dollar companies invest billions of dollars into advertising every single day. They make a 10-30% return on their investment. Every single day. AKA billions of dollars. EVery single day. Which is why they are billion dollar companies in the first place.

Plenty of independent people seeing 10-30% returns on their investment daily. Ever heard of a dotcom billionaire? How bout a dotcom millionaire? You know all the kids getting rich before they hit 25 using the internet? Their advertising. The internet is run by ads. This fukking site is run by ads. Half the apps on your phone and tablet are run by ads. Obvious you don't know what the fukk you're talking about.

And yea you do see a 10-30% return on campaigns up to a certain point. At that certain point you flooded the market and its time to diversify. Thats why millionaires hire a whole fukking firm of nikkas to sit there and run tests and diversify campaigns for them.

Breh, I work in marketing, 10-30% ROI on marketing/advertising per day is not normal. But ok, I'll let you tell it

and it's definitely not something any ol nikka can jump on the net to do.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Breh, I work in marketing, 10-30% ROI on marketing/advertising per day is not normal. But ok, I'll let you tell it

and it's definitely not something any ol nikka can jump on the net to do.

Not to mention not all marketing is measurable in terms of direct dollars. Branding spots don't always generate money right away....but yeah....

Microsoft spent A LOT of money on marketing their Surface tablets and the numbers reflect they did not make a large return on their advertising investment. Still a billion dollar company tho.....

 

[Danie84]

Didn't Tyga just buy a piece of King Tut gold, tho

...funny someone mentioned Live Nation, why you think Madonna old ass always touring

 

[Couth]

Breh, I work in marketing, 10-30% ROI on marketing/advertising per day is not normal. But ok, I'll let you tell it

and it's definitely not something any ol nikka can jump on the net to do.

When you first start per day isn't normal no. But by the end of the campaign you should be recooping at least 10% of every dollar you spent. And i'm not talking about brick and mortar marketing. Or building your own product.

Did i say it was something that an average nikka could just jump straight into? Nope. Never said that. Said the opposite in fact. Cuz most nikkas who are putting that much money into it have entire firms dedicated to managing their campaigns. And if you don't know what you're doing you'll lose all your money quick. If you take the time to learn, test, research, and tweak? Your campaign will be at least 10 percent in the green when all is said and done.
You can think what you want breh. Fact is theirs like billions of people on the internet. Billions of people on their phones. And every drop of revenue from the net is generated by ads. Meaning theirs literally a billion dollar industry booming right in front of your face. Growing daily. Keep thinking a ten percent return is impossible.