I am literally watching that Diamond Dave video RIGHT NOW and was planning to share it!
I love his content!!
You do his options trading course? I think I want to do it.
Tyler Perry Suggests that BW settle....does not go over well
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I am literally watching that Diamond Dave video RIGHT NOW and was planning to share it!
I love his content!!
You do his options trading course? I think I want to do it.
All can be true and I can attest to the military helping brehs into middle class status but if we're playing the stats game and we agree than two incomes are better than one someone needs to tell Black women that because the days of teachers dealing with hard working mechanics are over.Y’all gotta stop using this stat.
This was referring to men who are like 20-54, most of whom are married.
Marriage is what pulls most BM into “middle class” like it does for BW.
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Among findings, military service puts more black males in the middle class by the time they reach their 50s (54 percent), compared to 45 percent for those who don't serve. Numbers are similar for young men who attend religious services as youngsters compared to those who don't: 54 vs. 43 percent.
Heather Tuttle
The biggest gap for black males appears to be marriage. Only 20 percent of never-married men and 44 percent of divorced males make the middle class or better, but 70 percent of married men are middle class, the report says.
The researchers also found that 52 percent of those who as young men had a well-developed sense of personal agency reached the middle class or better at age 50, compared to 44 percent of peers who believed fate, chance or outside forces determine their future.
The factors were not independent. A young black man in military service in his 20s was more likely to be married in his 30s. Someone married in his 30s was more likely to be successful in his 50s. Similarly, someone who'd been in the military was more likely to be employed in his 30s, Wang said.
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Marriage and military (there’s a thread someone created talking about how military service can give a lot of brehs a great life and some dudes scoffed in the thread) are the two greatest drivers that push brehs into the middle class.
Being married to someone else bringing in income, or being in the military and taking advantage of the opportunities it provides are the main ways that middle class is achieved.
Most black males reach the middle class or higher. Here's what drives their success
A new report shows that nearly 6 in 10 black men in their 50s have reached the middle class or higher, a significant improvement since the 1960s. A mix of factors, some expected, some not, drives their story.www.deseret.com
Again I’m using observation of what been happening in the last fifty years and basic common sense you seem to be lacking ini thought you were using observation of actual families to form your opinion...
women across the board are less likely to "fall in line" with their men.. i concede that point...
but my original statement was that no other race of women do it "like" black women....
ie. it is nowhere near as prevalent and accepted....
especially in mexican or hispanic households (my statements apply to both)
EDIT: i'll just post a few studies that provides some data to support my point....
WHITE WOMEN COMPARED TO BLACK:
"To a large extent, women described caretaking as a positive, desirable aspect of their womanhood; however, this positive conceptualization of caretaking was more common for White women than Black women"THROUGH THE LENS OF RACE: BLACK AND WHITE WOMEN’S PERCEPTIONS OF WOMANHOOD - PMC
The intersection of race and gender may create unique experiences for Black and White women in terms of work, family, domestic roles, and interpersonal relationships. Dissimilar gender-role norms may foster different perceptions of gender for these ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Although many of the women described caretaking as including things they wanted and desired, participants also described some of the burdens of caretaking. Black women, more than White women, described the difficulties and challenges associated with this role."
"Although both Black and White women discussed positive and negative aspects of caretaking, White women spoke more about the gratifying aspects, whereas Black women spoke more about the associated challenges."
LATINA WOMEN AND GENDER ROLES/CULTURE:
Living in Two Worlds: Torn Identities and Gender Expectations of Latinas in the United States
Author(s): Miller, Stephanie | Abstract: Latino immigrants in the United States are currently living in a bicultural sphere that pulls them in two different directions. Their success in this affluent country is challenged by the dual expectations of Latino culture on one hand and Western...escholarship.org
"Latinas have additional burdens and expectations placed on them as women. They must adhere to the “female role” by caring for the household while also supplementing the low wages of their male counterparts"
"Studies have shown that in Mexican-American cultures the value of a woman has not been measured by her presence in the workforce. Being outside of the household prevents Latinas from fulfilling the gender expectation to care for the needs of their husbands and children."
"The frustrations experienced by Latinas as they try to live a successful Western lifestyle while also adhering to traditional expectations have been discussed in multiple studies"
And what’s with this fall in line shyt lol mfs can’t even take care of themselves and wash their azz on a consistent basis but trying to dictate what other people should be doing.
Black women talking more about the challenges of caretaking rather than the rewarding aspects more than white and Hispanic people is not surprising given the various factors such as have been historically been subjected to systemic inequalities, including limited access to resources, poorer healthcare, and lower socioeconomic status, etc. if you want to make the case it’s specifically not as prevalent whatever the fact of the matter is it’s still prevalent matter and only increasing as time goes on and you also said there is no concept of settling to white women
How is it insulting? Real talk.
I agree
The concept of a marriage for life seems dead in the west.
This big argument all started when the billionaire playwright and filmmaker that black women adore did exactly that
What you said sounds like “settling” to them. They will argue, use racist tropes and false narratives to fight against it.
Hell, even an intelligent poster on here subconsciously blamed black men for not “stepping up” to be able to provide in the same post that she admitted black men already had the resources to provide better than black women.
There’s one part of this equation that are so brainwashed, their biggest argument isn’t even based in reality
1. Statistics and studies confirm my viewpoint. I try to ask how many Hispanic/Mexican families you regularly interact with and you don’t respond. I’m not sure of the validity of your “observations” but the factual data reflects my viewpoint. the concept of "common sense" only exists if the "common sense" matches with reality.... otherwise we categorize it as ignorance.
2. Explain how men can't take care of themselves.... but men have more resources to take care of themselves than the women do...???
Can you break down the explanation? because According to statistics.... if you take a random black man... and put him in a room with a random black woman.... that man is more likely to be better able to take care of himself than the black woman can. This is a fact. So how come you use the argument that men cant take care of themselves? This racist trope needs to stop.
3. Black men go through the same stuff. Post the data that shows the black men having same level of negative connotation towards family/parenthood as black women.
4. I already admitted it’s growing more prevalent across the board. The argument I was making is it’s not ingrained in culture to the level that’s it’s ingrained in blsck women. Stats and studies confirm my viewpoint.
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Studious one
Change names, like change clothes; stay a fly girl
There has never been a patriarchy in the black community. I’m high as shyt, so I’ll just say that we basically never had a chance to build one.If black women make more money than black men...
then is there really a patriarchy in the black community?
Studious one
Change names, like change clothes; stay a fly girl
He said nothing wrong. Maybe I’m just getting old, but I just want a real one, shyt. I can’t knock a man for how he makes a living
Again- Tyler said to unite with a man who can only pay the light bill.This big argument all started when the billionaire playwright and filmmaker that black women adore did exactly that
What you said sounds like “settling” to them. They will argue, use racist tropes and false narratives to fight against it.
Hell, even an intelligent poster on here subconsciously blamed black men for not “stepping up” to be able to provide in the same post that she admitted black men already had the resources to provide better than black women.
There’s one part of this equation that are so brainwashed, their biggest argument isn’t even based in reality
NO.
So if I’m handling all the household bills right now, I’m supposed to get married and pregnant for a man who can only handle 1-2 bills? How sway?!
There’s literally nothing wrong with 50/50 IF HOUSEHOLD DUTIES ARE SPLIT AS WELL. That’s what people don’t seem to grasp.
A lot of women complain about working FT like their husbands and handling majority of the cleaning and child rearing. Thaaaaat’s the issue.
The couples out here that really are egalitarian aren’t having issues.
the women who can get married and pregnant with a guy who handles all the bills...
are already with those guys so we not talking about them...
the women who can get married and pregnant with a guy who splits bills and housework evenly...
are already with those guys so we not talking about them....
the women who "can't" get married to either...
those are the ones we are talking about...
are you in that group or not?
because if you are able to get either.... tyler perry's advice wasnt meant for you.....
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I do see your point.
I’m not one of the women complaining about brehs— but the point is what Tyler advised is foolish.
If you are a woman who can’t attract a man who can either hold it down 100% or equitably do 50/50, then you are a woman who shouldn’t get married or shouldn’t bare children. You aren’t exhibiting the traits that are desired by men who want to have a family.
Full Stop.
Just like the men who complain about “modern women” when you have brehs and men of other races who can find American women who are fit for marriage.
My entire point was what Tyler said is crazy.
A man who can only pay a light bill is literally making what an 18YO might make on a part-time job. Naaaah you can’t build a family with that, just like the fact that that woman might make $150k a year but she doesn’t know how to speak to a man or keep a home. Naaaaaaaah you can’t build a family with that either.
Post this on your twitter....
you'll start to see the pieces come together
you're almost there...
The other races can find them right?...
oh man.... you're almost there...
I said BREHS and other races of men.Post this on your twitter....
you'll start to see the pieces come together
you're almost there...
The other races can find them right?...
oh man.... you're almost there...
Babe, all of my black homegirls who wanted marriage are married to black & white men. Ladies getting married out here if they are exhibiting the traits. And the men who are actually fit for marriage got a long line of women who are vying for their attention.
That’s the thing- the men who got it have their hands full and the women who got it have multiple men interested in them.
My only issue is people harp on one side of the equation. Yes their are foul BW out here but there are BM who are playing mad games out here too.