Tyler Perry Suggests that BW settle....does not go over well

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@Savvir

This is essentially the point.

There’s a small amount of truly marriageable Black MEN and Black WOMEN out here.

I heard Jason Black say that earlier this year, and it’s true. If you are a truly eligible black man or woman you have your pick out here amongst your own race (AND interracially if that’s what you choose)

You talk about there being more women for men of other races to choose from, but there are more men available in other racial groups who are in better financial positions at younger ages. Those 24YO white girls are marrying the 26-27YO plumbers, electricians, accountants and engineers who are still building but STARTED their careers and finished their education. Not the 37YO who just cracked $120k or is just finding his footing.

The black men who are in college/the trades at 18, 19, 20, 21 are the Black men who are starting careers and making decent/good money by 27-30 and are ready to be family men and looking for wives at that age. Not men who are finding their stride at 37 and then saying it’s time to find a 24YO. Our community laughs at the Black men who get married before or at 30 (because they need to have their fun), but those guys are the ones who are actually marriageable and were raised to be prepared for marriage. If a white or Asian dude is 37 getting married it’s probably the SECOND marriage.

Same for women. Those raised in households where they were prepared for marriage might definitely get their education, but they were taught to cook, keep a home and to understand that a young man prepared for marriage is a man who isn’t looking at her earning ability as the main reason to marry her, so she leads with other traits and characteristics at a younger age because the guy who was truly raised to be ready for marriage is the guy who was raised to pursue a career that will set him up to provide for her.
A 24YO black woman with a 26YO electrician or accountant has no complaints. Where are the brehs who are ready to lock it down at that age like the other races? They exist, and the young women who are their counterparts are the women they are with.


When I say there are issues with both sexes that’s what I mean.

Yes, there are more women of other races raised in households where they are prepared for marriage, but there are more men of other races who are prepared to hit the ground running at the age of 30.

If you date interracially you have a greater chance of bumping into a woman who is prepared for marriage. True.

If I date interracially I have a greater chance of bumping into a man who comes from a community with a higher average household/male income. True.


The black community as a whole needs to do better. We have damn near the lowest household income and the most kids out of wedlock. We’re failing on both ends because neither sex is being properly reared and raised for adulthood.

Since the average age gap in American marriages is no more than 4 years:

If all we gotta do is be childless, ready to cook and keep a home by 25, do we have a community with enough financially and mentally prepared 26-30YO males ready to scoop up majority of young women who are 23-26?

Both sides need work. The black men and black women raised to get it right BOTH get it right at younger ages, like the other cultures that are marriage focused.

Other cultures focus on preparing daughters for marriage, but they also focus on pushing their sons into STEM careers or trades so they are financially prepared to start life by their late 20s.
Why aren’t you married?
 

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He said nothing wrong. Maybe I’m just getting old, but I just want a real one, shyt. I can’t knock a man for how he makes a living
I'm not sure why people are bent out of shape about this.

Life is an ala carte situation If you're a fly chick ( or not a fly chick) you have hirsties in the DM especially when you're young.

You snag a dude who got all the 6's covered great. If it doesn't work out because too many other women are bidding on him leave if you want to and get another Man. or not.

Taska K did a masterful breakdown of the Papoose and Remy Ma situation.




Remy Ma is 45 years old the whole point of marriage is to raise children and have someone able to wheel you around when you get to nursing home age

I know this old ass white canadian cat who's waiting for his 85 year old mother to die because he's taking care of her. The second she checks out he's becoming a Passport Bro looking for some Phillapina braod willing to take care of him in his old age.

People don't settle for dikk they settle for the person pushing thier wheelchair you can either trick off on your wheelchair pusher meaning being in a nursing home or have a loved one do it for free.
 

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Your first mistake was thinking the modern woman is afraid of "ending up single".

I know it's a tough pill to swallow but a lot of y'all favorite aunties and grandmas pulled your sisters and girl cousins aside early on in life and schooled them about the realities of marriage and relationships to a point where it made them think twice.

Also, a woman can be good, loyal and wholesome without entertaining men below her tax bracket. Entertaining bums, losers, scammers and broke nikkas is NOT a virtue. I also don't know why you as a man would be okay with your woman leveling you up like this.

But at the same time, as soon as a chick is supporting a bum nikka and things go left, y'all are quick to say she "should've chose better" so which is it???
Meanwhile
Marriage rates are falling across the board, regardless of race

But a 2 parent household is still better for children's development

And housing prices keep going on, so that dual income sure would be nice...

But win that gender war breh
 

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Why aren’t you married?
Because I admittedly have my own issues!

My folks had a dramatic marriage and dropped the ball in certain aspects and I realized I had emotional shyt I had to deal with.

I’ve claimed my issues multiple times on this board and I’ve also shared that the Black men I’m around are awesome. I’ve also acknowledged that I’m in a bit of a bubble when it comes to the black experience.

In my experience, men are providers and I’ve always been around brehs who come from good backgrounds. The girls get an education and stay in the gym and don’t think having an attitude is cute. But my experience isn’t different from those on this board who come from middle/upper middle class backgrounds.

On the outside my life looks perfect and no one takes whatever issues I might have seriously because of how my face is arranged.
Truth is my folks are similar to the type of people y’all complain about on here: women who present well in society but might not have as much depth as one would hope, and men who put success over everything. The emotional needs of the kids aren’t always factored in. Then the family drama kicks up and you have to start sorting shyt out in adulthood that should’ve been addressed and handled when you were younger.
Plus actual issues that have occurred with my mom that required my attention and too much mental drain.

As I said- I own my shyt and didn’t want to actually bring my baggage into the deal. And I have to deal with those decisions. 🤷🏾‍♀️

But again- I don’t personally complain about brehs because I have access to areas where one can meet the type of men some of these chicks think they qualify for. The guys who have approached me since college are all educated brehs.

If I could only attract a man who can only pay a light bill I’d be going back to the drawing board. And the guys I’m friends with literally have women surround them when we hit lounges together. And if they didn’t have it like that, they would make changes to attract the girls they want.
 

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I'm not sure why people are bent out of shape about this.

Life is an ala carte situation If you're a fly chick ( or not a fly chick) you have hirsties in the DM especially when you're young.

You snag a dude who got all the 6's covered great. If it doesn't work out because too many other women are bidding on him leave if you want to and get another Man. or not.


Taska K did a masterful breakdown of the Papoose and Remy Ma situation.




Remy Ma is 45 years old the whole point of marriage is to raise children and have someone able to wheel you around when you get to nursing home age

I know this old ass white canadian cat who's waiting for his 85 year old mother to die because he's taking care of her. The second she checks out he's becoming a Passport Bro looking for some Phillapina braod willing to take care of him in his old age.

People don't settle for dikk they settle for the person pushing thier wheelchair you can either trick off on your wheelchair pusher meaning being in a nursing home or have a loved one do it for free.

I was going to watch this later because I remember she was talking about Remy possibly cheating! I didn’t think she’d be that dumb. But I guess she’s acting like the cocky male rappers now.

THIS is an example of a woman being an idiot because she is NOT going to find another man like Pap.


And you right. Ultimately that’s what it’s about.

And that’s part of the fear- no one wants to get married, have kids and develop baggage and split up and not find someone else to grow old with.

The best bet is to find someone and ride it out and grow old together. But we need certain lessons from our families before we unite with another person and attempt marriage successfully.

We used to get those lessons…I really think some shyt got messed up with the Gen X and millennial generations.
Like, everyone’s parents (except for mine) have all been married for like 40+ years, but so many of their kids have gotten divorced or aren’t married at all. It’s the wildest thing. The messaging got mixed up for the last couple generations.

Ionno. Ionno.
 

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Marriage rates are falling across the board, regardless of race

But a 2 parent household is still better for children's development

And housing prices keep going on, so that dual income sure would be nice...

But win that gender war breh
We def need two income households.

We need both sexes to be focused on higher paying careers that will afford us comfortable lifestyles. I’ve seen people in academia, HR, healthcare, engineering, accounting etc live extremely comfortable, somewhat low stress lives as they age.
 

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Because I admittedly have my own issues!

My folks had a dramatic marriage and dropped the ball in certain aspects and I realized I had emotional shyt I had to deal with.

I’ve claimed my issues multiple times on this board and I’ve also shared that the Black men I’m around are awesome. I’ve also acknowledged that I’m in a bit of a bubble when it comes to the black experience.

In my experience, men are providers and I’ve always been around brehs who come from good backgrounds. The girls get an education and stay in the gym and don’t think having an attitude is cute. But my experience isn’t different from those on this board who come from middle/upper middle class backgrounds.

On the outside my life looks perfect and no one takes whatever issues I might have seriously because of how my face is arranged.
Truth is my folks are similar to the type of people y’all complain about on here: women who present well in society but might not have as much depth as one would hope, and men who put success over everything. The emotional needs of the kids aren’t always factored in. Then the family drama kicks up and you have to start sorting shyt out in adulthood that should’ve been addressed and handled when you were younger.
Plus actual issues that have occurred with my mom that required my attention and too much mental drain.

As I said- I own my shyt and didn’t want to actually bring my baggage into the deal. And I have to deal with those decisions. 🤷🏾‍♀️

But again- I don’t personally complain about brehs because I have access to areas where one can meet the type of men some of these chicks think they qualify for. The guys who have approached me since college are all educated brehs.

If I could only attract a man who can only pay a light bill I’d be going back to the drawing board. And the guys I’m friends with literally have women surround them when we hit lounges together. And if they didn’t have it like that, they would make changes to attract the girls they want.

Thought this song was about something else.
Then I read the comments and learned it was all about her mom.

 

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STATS ON SINGLE MOTHERS:




HEALTH/SUCCESS OF CHILDREN:

"But according to their research, the IFS scholars note that there are tangible benefits to both white and black children from being raised in an intact, two-parent home. They found, for instance, that black young adults raised by their biological mother and father are more likely to graduate from college and less likely to be incarcerated than black young adults from non-intact homes. Meanwhile, black children and young adults raised in intact, two-parent families are more likely to be successful by each metric than their white peers raised in single-parent homes."



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WOMEN'S HEALTH:

"Adults and children in single-parent households are at risk for adverse health outcomes, including mental illness (e.g., substance abuse, depression, suicide) and unhealthy behaviors (e.g., smoking, excessive alcohol use, food insecurity).1-4 Self-reported health has been shown to be worse among lone mothers than for mothers living as couples, even when controlling for socioeconomic characteristics.5 Mortality risk is also higher among lone parents.6 Children in single-parent households are at greater risk of severe morbidity and all-cause mortality than their peers in two-parent households.7"
DIRECT LINK TO DATA

"Married persons are known to have lower mortality and longer life expectancy (LE) than unmarried"
Do you see me arguing for more nikkas to abandon their kids and more single mothers? :dahell:

I'm literally talking about the opposite. Let me break it down for you really simply one last time in hopes you finally get it: I do not agree with the constant portrayal of Black men as shiftless losers who need their women to pity them and help them with basic masculine responsibilities.

I am not talking about being the sole provider of a household, bc I know every nikka won't have it like that. But mentality wise, EVERY BLACK MAN NEEDS TO BE STRIVING TOWARDS THAT. Not coming to women they want to build a life and family with with their hands out like a female.

None of these studies you posted have anything to do with Black men being providers for their households or supporting why they shouldn't be looked to to do that, like you nikkas are not so subtly doing in this thread.
 

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But mentality wise, EVERY BLACK MAN NEEDS TO BE STRIVING TOWARDS THAT. Not coming to women they want to build a life and family with with their hands out like a female.
majority of black men make MORE than the women... (albiet not a "vast" amount more)

so why is this trope that they "have their hand out" even a thing???????



When did I say you posted factual incorrect things about Black women? I said Black people are posting negative stats to make the other gender look worse,

I wasnt asking you to quote me ( i make sure i have sound data to back up my claims)

I was asking you to quote ANYBODY who is using incorrect data to criticize women...

The majority of the issues black women have against black men in this thread have been factually false and easily debunked using real world studies/data

So i'm wondering why there are so many racist tropes and incorrect data to justify bw attitude against bm..,..,

when the there hasn't been level of false claims by bm against bw

this needs to be explained.......

I dont see black men making black women seem "worse"

I see black men posting the data showing facts
 
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I was looking for this comment. An unfortunate amount of black people have not grown up in stable environments, so they model their lives on television. It takes alot of delusion for the brokest, poorest, most economically ravaged demographic to tell people earning $50K to $70K that they're bums. Not only can we look at the BC's income/net worth and see nikkas are lying, their comments imply that half of the U.S. population are bums since that's the median. It's delusion. Meanwhile in other communities, the $70K man and the $50K woman will make a $120K household and keep increasing their incomes over time.

Always the broke hoodrat that disguise themselves as "queens" or "accomplished" women that be the most delusional and most materialistic. They also watch too much reality TV and rap videos, thinking a man gotta be some 6'6 superthug with flash.
 

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majority of black men make MORE than the women... (albiet not a "vast" amount more)

so why is this trope that they "have their hand out" even a thing?


??????

:snoop:

Its in the literal OP nikka!
Tyler Perry condescendingly talking down about BM and our ability to provide as men, and therefore telling BW to have mercy and settle for a nikka who can only pay one bill in the household.

This is why I said from the beginning wtf you are quoting me for if you actually believe Black men have the capacity to be providers like every other man on this planet. If you do then we on the same side and you can stop trying to find some shyt to quote me and argue about.
 
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