{UPDATE CALLS HOT 97} Joe Budden - I'll Name This Podcast Later (JOE SPAZZES on DRAKES VIEWS ALBUM)

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I'm :deadmanny: at Jay-Z coaching Meek on the phone on how to destroy a canadian

He ain't coach him, I think he knows Meep is a dummy...he probably egged him on so he could step on the landmine first. Jay sends the pawn out there to kill his career for fukkin with Iovine's money and doesn't take the risk of looking bitter/like a hater to the younger generation.

Had Drake not reneged on the Tidal deal it woulda been all gravy...because he would still be in some way shape or form under him, but he rode out with Iovine and here we are.

:francis:

And you can say he killed Meek but he got wounded in the process. nikkas ain't know camels were scavengers :mjlol:

so Joe is pointing fingers at Jay? it was rumored Drake was taking shots at him a while back on a few songs before. plus he recently spoke on his relationship with Jay saying they ain't on the best terms right now. maybe it has something to do with signing with Apple and not Tidal. Wayne did a deal with Jay when he dropped the Free Weezy Album last year.

Peep.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/countdown-til-jay-z-goes-at-drakes-neck-10-9.350800/

Of course it has something to do with it, Jay trying to make moves and compete and he decided to do the bidding of the old guard of the industry...

For those that think it's nonsense even Drake has been hinting at it and taking shots and Jay for it...he knows it, Budden knows it, I been saying it for a long time now.

Thing is, I'm GLAD...the nikka is a FRAUD and is opening the door for somebody like Justin Beiber to assemble a "team" and end up being say next to Rakim on billboards...fukk that.
 

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He ain't coach him, I think he knows Meep is a dummy...he probably egged him on so he could step on the landmine first. Jay sends the pawn out there to kill his career for fukkin with Iovine's money and doesn't take the risk of looking bitter/like a hater to the younger generation.

Had Drake not reneged on the Tidal deal it woulda been all gravy...because he would still be in some way shape or form under him, but he rode out with Iovine and here we are.

:francis:

And you can say he killed Meek but he got wounded in the process. nikkas ain't know camels were scavengers :mjlol:



Peep.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/countdown-til-jay-z-goes-at-drakes-neck-10-9.350800/

Of course it has something to do with it, Jay trying to make moves and compete and he decided to do the bidding of the old guard of the industry...

For those that think it's nonsense even Drake has been hinting at it and taking shots and Jay for it...he knows it, Budden knows it, I been saying it for a long time now.

Thing is, I'm GLAD...the nikka is a FRAUD and is opening the door for somebody like Justin Beiber to assemble a "team" and end up being say next to Rakim on billboards...fukk that.


i'm pretty sure Jay will wreck him in a rap battle, Drake might hold his own but it won't end well.
 

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Its been rumored that he did keep Joe's albums on the shelf. or at least thats what Joe believed back then (and now) cuz after "Pump It Up" son was trying be positioned as that new nikka at Def Jam, with Hov watching over him...hov only fukked with him cuz of dj clue and duro and them.








"Shouldn't be a question about your favorite rapper
And my label got me questioning my favorite rapper"
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And of course "Talk To Em" was pretty much him challenging Hov



"Campaign going full thortal like a race
Feeling Funkdafied get a bottle to the face
Face, for you times is rough too (WHY?)
Cause ain't nobody buying ya albums but you (Talk 2 Em!)
From the sounds of everything I hear you lost it
Still rap aight, but ya peers exhausted
fukk ya bunch of money, put ya ego to the side
And maybe it's time to study ya understudy (Talk 2 Em!)
I mean, are we hustling or are we grown up?
Everytime I hear you, you changing ya tone up
When the new generation think about Jordan
All they remember is when Iverson crossed him (Talk 2 Em!)
Take off the blazer, lossing up the tie
nikka fell in love and superman died
Better learn to cover ya ears when the toys pop
I hate ya last single (pause) Boys Roc
Can we hear some new nikkas with promise?
The new generation won't forget you we promise
We'll always pay homage
But let's get one thing understood son
Every Encore ain't a good one! (Talk 2 Em!)"
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ALL these shots came out while he was/just leaving Def Jam
I remember

But he's made music since then and been signed to smaller labels
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He ain't coach him, I think he knows Meep is a dummy...he probably egged him on so he could step on the landmine first. Jay sends the pawn out there to kill his career for fukkin with Iovine's money and doesn't take the risk of looking bitter/like a hater to the younger generation.

Had Drake not reneged on the Tidal deal it woulda been all gravy...because he would still be in some way shape or form under him, but he rode out with Iovine and here we are.

:francis:

And you can say he killed Meek but he got wounded in the process. nikkas ain't know camels were scavengers :mjlol:



Peep.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/countdown-til-jay-z-goes-at-drakes-neck-10-9.350800/

Of course it has something to do with it, Jay trying to make moves and compete and he decided to do the bidding of the old guard of the industry...

For those that think it's nonsense even Drake has been hinting at it and taking shots and Jay for it...he knows it, Budden knows it, I been saying it for a long time now.

Thing is, I'm GLAD...the nikka is a FRAUD and is opening the door for somebody like Justin Beiber to assemble a "team" and end up being say next to Rakim on billboards...fukk that.

How you think this went?

How'd Drake find out Jay egged Meek on?

I definitely think there's something there, he practically says it on charged up
 

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i'm pretty sure Jay will wreck him in a rap battle, Drake might hold his own but it won't end well.

There's nothing Drake can do to Jay really.

And on the flip, Jay can't "end" Drake as far as keeping him from being a viable artist as far as sales go. What he can do though is grand stand as he declines (he's peaked)..which does nothing but add to his legacy while permanently staining Drake's regardless of what these fukk nikkas on here say. He will always be a pop star but I honestly don't think Drake was satisfied with being a "product" as he says but that's what he will be regulated to...
 

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There's nothing Drake can do to Jay really.

And on the flip, Jay can't "end" Drake as far as keeping him from being a viable artist as far as sales go. What he can do though is grand stand as he declines (he's peaked)..which does nothing but add to his legacy while permanently staining Drake's regardless of what these fukk nikkas on here say. He will always be a pop star but I honestly don't think Drake was satisfied with being a "product" as he says but that's what he will be regulated to...


judging by signing to Apple he is just that, a product. before the Apple deal Jay & Drake we're pretty damn close together. both we're always spotted together at events chilling and shyt. crazy thing is Wayne did business with Jay last year with Tidal. maybe Jay felt like he got shafted when Drake decided to do business with Apple instead of Tidal. Drake did subliminally mention it on Charged up so :yeshrug:
 

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How you think this went?

How'd Drake find out Jay egged Meek on?

I definitely think there's something there, he practically says it on charged up

I think it's a combination of knowing that Jay didn't really fukk with him like that with the little back and forth they were having and then the Tidal/Apple music show down. Iovine was already poaching clients/potential clients from Jay and he had already spoke out about it...

Drake riding with Iovine turned a :ld: relationship with Jay into a :pacspit: relationship with Jay.

nikkas really shyt on Jay about the Tidal service and laugh at the "black owned" angle but I think he's for real about wanting to change the music industry and putting more power in the artists hands. I don't think Prince would have fukked with it if he didn't see a sincere vision.
 

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I think it's a combination of knowing that Jay didn't really fukk with him like that with the little back and forth they were having and then the Tidal/Apple music show down. Iovine was already poaching clients/potential clients from Jay and he had already spoke out about it...

Drake riding with Iovine turned a :ld: relationship with Jay into a :pacspit: relationship with Jay.

nikkas really shyt on Jay about the Tidal service and laugh at the "black owned" angle but I think he's for real about wanting to change the music industry and putting more power in the artists hands. I don't think Prince would have fukked with it if he didn't see a sincere vision.
But that don't translate into him gassing meek up
Someone would have had to tell him

This is the most interesting Cold War rap beef
I think we'll find out 10 yrs from now
 

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judging by signing to Apple he is just that, a product. before the Apple deal Jay & Drake we're pretty damn close together. both we're always spotted together at events chilling and shyt. crazy thing is Wayne did business with Jay last year with Tidal. maybe Jay felt like he got shafted when Drake decided to do business with Apple instead of Tidal. Drake did subliminally mention it on Charged up so :yeshrug:
thats why theyre beefing, Joey mentions it.

Tidal and Apple are fighting for position in the streaming market, and Drake is the new face of Apple.

Not only that, Tidal is supposed to attract the "black consumer", but Drake is the number one selling artist in the urban market...neck and neck.
 

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judging by signing to Apple he is just that, a product. before the Apple deal Jay & Drake we're pretty damn close together. both we're always spotted together at events chilling and shyt. crazy thing is Wayne did business with Jay last year with Tidal. maybe Jay felt like he got shafted when Drake decided to do business with Apple instead of Tidal. Drake did subliminally mention it on Charged up so :yeshrug:

I don't know about close but Jay was still willing to work/get money with him. They had thrown little shots, him calling Jay and his art collection corny. Jay dissed him by name on "we made it" so it was already some tension, just not serious. Now not only is he competition, not just against him as a rapper but his whole vision/movement, but he's also telling people he's Jay's replacement...

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thats why theyre beefing, Joey mentions it.

Tidal and Apple are fighting for position in the streaming market, and Drake is the new face of Apple.

Not only that, Tidal is supposed to attract the "black consumer", but Drake is the number one selling artist in the urban market...neck and neck.
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I don't know about close but Jay was still willing to work/get money with him. They had thrown little shots, him calling Jay and his art collection corny. Jay dissed him by name on "we made it" so it was already some tension, just not serious. Now not only is he competition, not just against him as a rapper but his whole vision/movement, but he's also telling people he's Jay's replacement...

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He has replaced what Jay was to mainstream rap from 99-2010

That's the decision of fans not anyone else
 

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i'm pretty sure Jay will wreck him in a rap battle, Drake might hold his own but it won't end well.
No he won't. This is Hov we are talking about. If Drake gets hit with a D.O.A. it's curtains :mjlol:. It won't affect drakes career in any significant way but he's not winning a battle with him unless he fukks Beyonce and makes a song about it. His disses against meek and common was polite as fukk so I dont see an ether coming from dude.
 

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I doubt Jay-Z would ever diss Drake

If I was him, I wouldn't

You're giving dude credibility
I'd just diss him in interviews
Like that boys not hip hop
 

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But that don't translate into him gassing meek up
Someone would have had to tell him

This is the most interesting Cold War rap beef
I think we'll find out 10 yrs from now

There's a ton of pictures with Jay and Meek. Meek was sitting on that info for a min and they obviously talk. He stay bigging up Puff (who also had problems with Drake) and Jigga like they are who he calls when he needs advice.

In my thread where I broke down the whole theory, the first vid I posted shows Meek, maybe a week or two before the whole shyt jumped off being asked about ghostwriting in some interview.



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