USA TODAY: "Tech Jobs: minorities have degrees, but dont get hired"

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Blackking said:
nikkas in all industries need to be more flexible as far as location, position title, duties, etc... (Especially in IT)

Or create your own company..

Because we aren't immigrants for the most part, we live in the land of our oppressors, aren't real citizens.. and are only wanted for prison labor and entertainment.


But for the most part- if you are working with new technologies you're good.
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interesting post. Now that I think about it us AAs are basically treated like immigrants in this country.
 
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Why is the emphasis on silicon valley in this article? This is kind of stupid...

I go to a school in the south for computer engineering and I would say 95% of the companies that hire graduates from my school are not located in silicon valley.

There is a reasonable racial discrepancy in STEM fields as far as black graduates but this article sucks. I've noticed that the normal news media has an obscene obsession with Silicon Valley and start ups in SV, while the reality is that if you're in computer engineering/science and electrical engineering there is as much demand outside of Silicon Valley as there is within it. You can listen to a podcast version of the story at the bottom too and again, it shows the weird obsession among journalist with Silicon Valley. I didn't go into my job with aspirations to work in Silicon Valley. I went in with hopes of being able to explore my interest in programming, AI and machine learning, electronics, and science not to work for google. Hell I don't even want to live on the west coast.

Whenever I see an article with what appears spotty research such as extrapolating national graduation rates and applying them to stats related to hiring in ONE region such as this article, I always search for the actual research paper and look at the raw details of the study. Its appears to be reinterpretation of tables by USA Today. There is a lot of good data out there reporting blacks issues getting hired in STEM fields. This one isn't it.
 
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Paul Von Oberstein said:
Why is the emphasis on silicon valley in this article? This is kind of stupid...
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:what:

Notable companies based in Silicon Valley
Thousands of high technology companies are headquartered in Silicon Valley. Among those, the following are in the Fortune 1000:

Additional notable companies headquartered (or with a significant presence) in Silicon Valley include (some defunct or subsumed):

 
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StraightUpFly said:
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Yep there are a lot of high profile companies in Silicon Valley but there are a lot of successful companies outside of Silicon Valley too. At my school, not everyone is fukking moving out to California. Also a lot of these companies have offices outside of silicon valley.

Cisco, Citrix, Intel, IBM, Microsoft, Redhat are just some I can think of off the top of my head that are near where I'm at and people from my school work at.

You have these people tell it, if you don't work in silicon valley, your engineering degree is worthless which is bullshyt.
 
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Paul Von Oberstein said:
Yep there are a lot of high profile companies in Silicon Valley but there are a lot of success companies outside of Silicon Valley too.

You have these people tell it, if you don't work in silicon valley, your engineering degree is worthless which is bullshyt.
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You don't get it. Silicon Valley is WHERE the large companies are based. That's where decisions are made. Do you know how many millions of employees are employed by tech companies based in Silicon Valley? Not to mention how many companies are in business solely because Silicon Valley based companies use them as contractors.
 
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SprinceC said:
Those are pitful #'s (10% with degrees, 5% hiring) but Tech jobs aren't limited to Silicon Valley.

Go to NY/DC and all you'll see is Minority folks in IT departments.
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I highly doubt the trends in NYC are much different to Silicon Valley. Do you have any proof for your assertions?
 
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StraightUpFly said:
:what:

Notable companies based in Silicon Valley
Thousands of high technology companies are headquartered in Silicon Valley. Among those, the following are in the Fortune 1000:

Additional notable companies headquartered (or with a significant presence) in Silicon Valley include (some defunct or subsumed):

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this is useless information, and it isnt even complete

but SV shouldn't be used as a measuring stick for the simple fact that black people are one the smallest minority groups in california overall and the notion that a black stem graduate has trouble getting hired in SV is a plain lie

if black people started experiencing discrimination in SV that would actually be an improvement, that would mean there are black people out there, the reality is that there are so few black people that black people are not even in the game
 
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StraightUpFly said:
You don't get it. Silicon Valley is WHERE the large companies are based. That's where decisions are made. Do you know how many millions of employees are employed by tech companies based in Silicon Valley? Not to mention how many companies are in business solely because these large companies use them as contractors.
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My issue with the article is it is taking a national stat (graduation rates in the US and CANADA) and then extrapolating from that data to apply it to only silicon valley. Its faulty bullshyt.

Secondly, while Silicon Valley is the hub of technology, which I'm not disputing, the issue here is that is being used as the SOLE gauge of success which is a false way to view this. Again I believe the media and folks who only follow corporations with high profile names like google and yahoo have a very myopic view of what constitutes success among those with degrees in engineering an the like.

Also a lot of these companies are global. While their head offices are in silicon valley, the often employee a sizable amount of employees in satellite offices.

One last thing that sort of get lost sometimes is that there are a lot of companies that are not even "Tech" but still require those skills for certain aspects in their businesses.

Silicon Valley while is the face for the Tech industry to the public at large, its not the end all, be all by any stretch. Otherwise, again, every person with a STEM degree would live in California.
 
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Idaeo said:
duh


sidebar: I'm in the Bay area right now for biz travel....I found out about a a startup networking event here in "silicon valley" last week...there were two other black people out of about 30 people. Both of them avoided eye contact and any kind of interaction with me and each other....:mjlol:
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Dem oreos got the :sadcam: face when they saw there was another black guy in the room :mjlol:
 
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Roddy Right said:
I highly doubt the trends in NYC are much different to Silicon Valley. Do you have any proof for your assertions?
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Bruh ... the demand for Jobs Information Technology is huge.

Healthcare, Finance, Gov't, Automotive etc ... there are jobs in IT in all them.

If your stuck in life with a deadend up and want to make paper, get them certs ... You might not like the work but at least you'll get paid.

http://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/why-goldman-sachs/our-people/chukwunonso-profile.html

Thats just some random guy I pulled up, looking for Goldman Sachs IT Department.
 
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Yep it's like, you want see more black doctors, scientist, engineers....It's starts at the ground level, there needs to be more an increased overhaul of brothers and sisters trying to enter these fields.
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This is PRECISELY why I get in arguments with @Poitier over this shyt.

There has to be less of a focus on entertainment as a means of generating wealth and autonomy in the black community.

Essentially 95% of black millionaires in this country is in entertainment.
 
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