USA TODAY: "Tech Jobs: minorities have degrees, but dont get hired"

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if black people had more business then black people wouldnt have to worry so much about being hired by black people

that si why black business is important

AA is worthless, the only real way to force whites to hire blacks is if blacks show superior skills, if we want more black engineers hired then we have to find a way to produce the best engineers in the world, but i would not agree that our main goal should be to hired to whites, i think that is not the proper way to look at it and i dont even care about stories like this, i think they are irrelevant

i think there is a lot of racism all over corporate america but the changes have to be made in black america, black people have to develop economical and academically before you really attack corporate america
Yeah i understand but i wouldn't call AA worthless. If it werent for that, you'd literally have 1 black dude in a skilled position per company lol. No way they'd hire blacks if they didnt HAVE to. What you're advocating is what needs to happen though. We should build up our people but would they hire ONLY blacks leaving out other talented individuals? Thats what i meant by saying positive changes in power positions. Replacing one indiiferist with another will still breed exclusion. More moderates and open-minded people are needed across all sectors, especially public service.
 

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No because they are currently contracting and pretty much picking up everyone's slack. Are you a Cac? Because any black person would understand that job searching is never fair for black people.
Not-a-cac. You don't have to lecture me on job searching. All i offered was a slight difference of mindset. If he performed well then you have to wonder...,I wouldn't just say "oh, its because he was _____ is the reason he didn't get it". Not defending ANYONE.
 

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if black people had more business then black people wouldnt have to worry so much about being hired by black people

that si why black business is important

AA is worthless, the only real way to force whites to hire blacks is if blacks show superior skills, if we want more black engineers hired then we have to find a way to produce the best engineers in the world, but i would not agree that our main goal should be to hired to whites, i think that is not the proper way to look at it and i dont even care about stories like this, i think they are irrelevant

i think there is a lot of racism all over corporate america but the changes have to be made in black america, black people have to develop economical and academically before you really attack corporate america

Both issues can be addressed at the same time. They are completely separate. And you don't have to try to tear down the validity of the argument for one to address the other. Racism in corporate america is a real issue affecting educated blacks right now and needs to continue to be attacked and dealth with. What your doing in this thread is the equivalent of saying "Well what about black on black crime?" in a discussion about police brutality towards blacks.
 

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Not-a-cac. You don't have to lecture me on job searching. All i offered was a slight difference of mindset. If he performed well then you have to wonder...,I wouldn't just say "oh, its because he was _____ is the reason he didn't get it". Not defending ANYONE.

They told me that the same student they went to class with in college (who they had to carry on a programming project) now work for Facebook (they are white). Also several other students they went to school with now work for the companies that were listed in the article (they are all white).

There is no other way to look at the situation. They don't want to hire even skilled black people.
 

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They told me that the same student they went to class with in college (who they had to carry on a programming project) now work for Facebook (they are white). Also several other students they went to school with now work for the companies that were listed in the article (they are all white).

There is no other way to look at the situation. They don't want to hire even skilled black people.
You're mostly right. Blacks seem to have to excel at everything before they hire us. I remember i used to be worrried about getting on with a nice company and work 30 years and cash out my 401k. That lifestyle aint for me. Going to LEARN what is needed and create a system of wealth.
 

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Both issues can be addressed at the same time. They are completely separate. And you don't have to try to tear down the validity of the argument for one to address the other. Racism in corporate america is a real issue affecting educated blacks right now and needs to continue to be attacked and dealth with. What your doing in this thread is the equivalent of saying "Well what about black on black crime?" in a discussion about police brutality towards blacks.

there really isnt much more to be done as far as addressing racism, this whole notion of demanding "diversity" programs and affirmative action is a waste of time and effort and a bad strategy

diversity and affirmative action does not address racism, almost all those type of programs are just things created by white liberals to placate blacks and throw some crumbs our way, and at the end of the day blacks will be in the same position

the only thing that addresses racism is economic power and/or violence, and to increase black economic power its black people that have to change
 

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Yeah i understand but i wouldn't call AA worthless. If it werent for that, you'd literally have 1 black dude in a skilled position per company lol. No way they'd hire blacks if they didnt HAVE to. What you're advocating is what needs to happen though. We should build up our people but would they hire ONLY blacks leaving out other talented individuals? Thats what i meant by saying positive changes in power positions. Replacing one indiiferist with another will still breed exclusion. More moderates and open-minded people are needed across all sectors, especially public service.


I dont think it matters either way whether AA exists or not, AA will always keep white people on top, whether there is 1 black person or zero, the one black person is just a crumb being thrown your way
 

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there really isnt much more to be done as far as addressing racism, this whole notion of demanding "diversity" programs and affirmative action is a waste of time and effort and a bad strategy

diversity and affirmative action does not address racism, almost all those type of programs are just things created by white liberals to placate blacks and throw some crumbs our way, and at the end of the day blacks will be in the same position

the only thing that addresses racism is economic power and/or violence, and to increase black economic power its black people that have to change

Why do you think whites have economic power? Its because of government intervention. Years of laws and jim crow preventing blacks from accumulating wealth got us here. Afirmative action works. The problem is its no longer just for blacks as originally intended. Now white women, and gay white males and every other group claims minority status and that was done specifically to prevent blacks from gaining economic power through afirmative action. If blacks were really getting 20% of fed contracts than you could have your black lockheed martins and black microsofts that could employ and empower thousands of black folks. You cant get that large any other way.

What your saying is foolish and shortsighted. half of these white owned companies would collapse if it were not for the government contracts they have been eating off of for years. You need to stop pretending like these cac companies are doing something special. How many billions does our goverment funnel to israel every year? You think these jews are rich and economically powerful because they just work harder than. Everyone else? Lol.
 

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Why do you think whites have economic power? Its because of government intervention. Years of laws and jim crow preventing blacks from accumulating wealth got us here. Afirmative action works. The problem is its no longer just for blacks as originally intended. Now white women, and gay white males and every other group claims minority status and that was done specifically to prevent blacks from gaining economic power through afirmative action. If blacks were really getting 20% of fed contracts than you could have your black lockheed martins and black microsofts that could employ and empower thousands of black folks. You cant get that large any other way.

What your saying is foolish and shortsighted. half of these white owned companies would collapse if it were not for the government contracts they have been eating off of for years. You need to stop pretending like these cac companies are doing something special. How many billions does our goverment funnel to israel every year? You think these jews are rich and economically powerful because they just work harder than. Everyone else? Lol.


you can write all the essays you want about the history of racism none of that is evidence that affirmative action and diversity programs are the proper way to attack the issue

Affirmative action going to other groups is not affirmative action going wrong, that is what affirmative action is, affirmative action is a program created by white liberals to throw some bones at black people, in no way shape or form is it designed to give black people economic power and in no way is it a threat to the white power structure, its designed to make black people shut up, and its deesigned to make other groups shut up that is why it always spreads to other groups, the fact that you and a lot of people latch on to is due to the fact that basically you dont have a real economic plan and you dont know what else to do

fundamentally everything you are saying and all your schemes are dependent on white people, thats the problem with writing essays demanding affirmative action

if you want black lockheed martins and black Microsofts affirmative action is not the way to do it, the way to to do that is to have a fundamental shift in black culture towards academics and to create a huge mass of black engineers which will create the critical mass necessary for black companies to develop regardless of white people

i dont think jews work harder than everybody else, i think that jews focus on education and capitalism, something black people need to learn from
 
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