Was Atlanta influenced by the West Coast in the early 1990's

[Biscayne]

Outkast to me was the first act that was uniquely southern outside of that bass shyt. That P Funk tho is some east coast shyt. George Clinton is from NJ. Plus east coast producers like Erick Sermon were the first ones sampling that real heavy

True. George Clinton was from NJ, but funk music derives from down south. Most funk, 70s RnB, Soul came from down south. Alot of them up North were doing Southern music. Guys like Isaac Hayes/Stax Records, that Memphis influence had alot of influence on Westcoast music. Westcoast music in general sounds like southern music. Alot of those early funk and rnb acts in LA originally came from Louisiana, Texas, Mississppi, etc. Alot of them also came from the midwest like the Ohio Players, Bootsy, The Isley's etc. Erick Sermon and those early AA hip hop artist had roots in the South. Early hip hop from Cool DJ Herc and them in the 70's derives from Jamaican dancehall, reggae and rocksteady, and that Jamaican music in turn was influenced by southern American RnB and Soul. Everything goes full circle.

 

[calixprynce]

Every region of America does, we all come from the south ultimately.

we all do, yet we all unique since we left. nikkas just love that westcoast stilo ,

 

[Biscayne]

i thought most of Parliament Funkadelic was from Detroit and Plainfield NJ

True, but the music they were doing had Southern roots. Funk, RnB, and Soul in general came from the South. Alot of it deriving from Rock N Roll.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

True. George Clinton was from NJ, but funk music derives from down south. Most funk, 70s RnB, Soul came from down south. Alot of them up North were doing Southern music. Guys like Isaac Hayes/Stax Records, that Memphis influence had alot of influence on Westcoast music. Westcoast music in general sounds like southern music. Alot of those early funk and rnb acts in LA originally came from Louisiana, Texas, Mississppi, etc. Alot of them also came from the midwest like the Ohio Players, Bootsy, The Isley's etc. Erick Sermon and those early AA hip hop artist had roots in the South. Early hip hop from Cool DJ Herc and them in the 70's derives from Jamaican dancehall, reggae and rocksteady, and that Jamaican music in turn was influenced by southern American RnB and Soul. Everything goes full circle.

Really tho black people all over the country have their roots in the south. We are kind of making this thread irrelevant tbh. The west coast is way further away from the south than NY is

 

[Biscayne]

Southern hip hop was looking for its identity that's why it sounded so much like west coast shyt. By 95 this wasn't the case anymore becuz the south had established itself. The west coast culture was much different from the south in that the music was based around social commentary and gang lifestyle. The biggest west coast influence on the south imo was Too Short.

Going by your argument early Chicago hip hop should've sounded just like NY becuz they were living in high rise apartment. That's silly tho. Twista and Do Or Die ain't sound nothing like they from NY

Honestly, the most uniquely Southern Hip Hop track I ever heard was UGK's Pocket Full Of Stones. Especially that twangy guitar they put on the beat. That song sounds VERY Texas-like. As if Texas became a rap track.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Southern hip hop was looking for its identity that's why it sounded so much like west coast shyt. By 95 this wasn't the case anymore becuz the south had established itself. The west coast culture was much different from the south in that the music was based around social commentary and gang lifestyle. The biggest west coast influence on the south imo was Too Short.

Going by your argument early Chicago hip hop should've sounded just like NY becuz they were living in high rise apartment. That's silly tho. Twista and Do Or Die ain't sound nothing like they from NY

You cant use Chicago as an example because we know the history of their “more recent” migrations from the South. Do or Die sounded like Memphis cats and so did Bone (Cleveland but still Midwest).

Thats what sparked the whole tongue twisting (not the east coast style) thing.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

even kast had a lot of west coast influence

They did to a certain extent. But they were the first act that made it a point to rep the south. They weren't rocking dikkies and chucks. They didn't have low riders in the videos they had caddys

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

So is the midwest considered an offset of the East Coast?

midwest more so like the south than anything musically imo. culturally that's the same too

 

[BigMan]

True, but the music they were doing had Southern roots. Funk, RnB, and Soul in general came from the South. Alot of it deriving from Rock N Roll.

well yeah obviously, all AA music is from the south (notable exception is hip hop)

 

[Biscayne]

Really tho black people all over the country have their roots in the south. We are kind of making this thread irrelevant tbh. The west coast is way further away from the south than NY is

I think there were specific things in early Southern Hip hop that you can say were influenced by the westcoast. That whole player era that Outkast was in, can be compared to the "player" culture that came out of the westcoast and midwest in the 70's. The 1973 film The Mack influenced EVERYONE, eastcoast, westcoast, down south, midwest. It's all relative. Everyone influenced everyone.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

You cant use Chicago as an example because we know the history of their “more recent” migrations from the South. Do or Die sounded like Memphis cats and so did Bone (Cleveland but still Midwest).

Thats what sparked the whole tongue twisting (not the east coast style) thing.

Why can't Chicago be used as an example? They experienced the same migration NY did just from different parts of the south.

And nikkas tend to forget that Twista been around since the late 80s early 90s and used to go by Tongue Twista. I don't see how that's Memphis influence

 

[Hollywood Co]

Southern hip hop was looking for its identity that's why it sounded so much like west coast shyt. By 95 this wasn't the case anymore becuz the south had established itself. The west coast culture was much different from the south in that the music was based around social commentary and gang lifestyle. The biggest west coast influence on the south imo was Too Short.

Going by your argument early Chicago hip hop should've sounded just like NY becuz they were living in high rise apartment. That's silly tho. Twista and Do Or Die ain't sound nothing like they from NY

As a youngin, I always thought Too Short was from the A cuz so much of his music was played here and blended well with the Bass style music that was made here.

West Coast definitely had an influence on music outta Atl but so did a lot of other hip hop cultures. The South was and still is the melting pot of hip hop.

 

[Biscayne]

Willie Hutch out of Dallas. I Choose You by Willie Hutch was the title track to the 1973 Film "The Mack". The most influential film to come out of the Bay. The film and soundtrack had one of the biggest influences on hip hop:



Then in 2007:



^^^One of the landmark southern hip hop tracks.

The westcoast and South bounce influence back and forth between each other.

 

[BigMan]

As a youngin, I always thought Too Short was from the A cuz so much of his music was played here and blended well with the Bass style music that was made here.

West Coast definitely had an influence on music outta Atl but so did a lot of other hip hop cultures. The South was and still is the melting pot of hip hop.

never thought about it but this is true, at least for Atlanta

but its interesting that for as large as the South is only a few cities have their own "styles"--Atlanta, Memphis, and Houston (i include the Gulf Coast with them), Miami (kind of a mix of styles). every other city copies one of those cities or NYC

 

[Biscayne]

never thought about it but this is true, at least for Atlanta

but its interesting that for as large as the South is only a few cities have their own "styles"--Atlanta, Memphis, and Houston (i include the Gulf Coast with them), Miami (kind of a mix of styles). every other city copies one of those cities or NYC

New Orleans has its own style desticnt from Houston and the rest of the Gulf Coast. But, i guess you can technically say it was influenced by NYC. The beat used in Bounce tracks comes from the Show Boys out of Queens. Drag rap. But New Orleans took it and made it their own.