Washington Post: Hookup Culture Isn’t The Real Problem Facing Singles Today. It’s Math.

[Killer Instinct]

Truth be told, considering where I'm already at now at 23 and where I'll likely be by 30, there's no way on God's green Earth that I'd even toy with the notion of marriage if I didn't want kids.
I'd have a vasectomy right now and be having as much fun as possible.

 

[PartyHeart]

This era is lovely for a man who can play the game right. It can benefit women too.

Some are jaded because they didn't play right, that isn't the games fault.

I'm loving it.

Yes, "the game" is fine for the 1% so to speak. It always will be no matter the era and no matter the numbers because they have all the traits highly desired by the opposite sex. However, the other 99% (on both sides) need to make adjustments to maximize their outcome, and they aren't.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

This has nothing to do with education...couples meet in college or even grad school all the time.

The issue is that women keep holding out for that perfect dude, or that dude who isn't realistically attainable for them. They keep turning down the simps until they get in their 30's and those looks/body decline(plus wanting kids).

 

[88m3]

But, that degree helps bring more money in the house when you do settle down!

I'm telling y'all, this is the golden age for the American man who has some sense of finances, how to choose women, and real about sex

If you don't know how to move, shyts fukked up out here

I don't need money. If life revolves around work as a couple I'd rather be single.

 

[bouncy]

Yes, "the game" is fine for the 1% so to speak. It always will be no matter the era and no matter the numbers because they have all the traits highly desired by the opposite sex. However, the other 99% (on both sides) need to make adjustments to maximize their outcome, and they aren't.

How so?

If a man is the one who is the prize, why would only 1% benefit from this? A woman who wants a family and yearning for children, is not going to let a man who makes less then her or has less status keep her from having that family. What happens after that is different, but in the beginning, its a benefit to the man.

For men this means as long as we aren't straight bums and lazy asses, we have more access to women we didn't have before. That's why this is a lovely time for men. It's how you use it that determines the winners, and losers, but at least we can play!the game our way. Back in the day, men had to do all types of shyt for p*ssy. Most got married JUST to get p*ssy, we don't have to do none of that shyt now, and the women have more intelligence. Again, its just the type of chick you choose, and whatyou are willing to sacrifice to keep things stable. But, because we yield power now, what we give up isn't as much as it used to be!

 

[Art Barr]

Common sense isn't common because we have too many people kicking fantasies and telling people some falsehoods. For example, you can tell a dude not to marry a stripper or a woman that clubs every night, and 'back then', it would be common accepted wisdom. Now, dudes think they are above reality and they'll argue with you and go ahead and wife up the party girl. It's no wonder people are confused to what quality is.

this.

every wack mediocre bytch and nikkaz..
think they are the actual exception to the rule and think they can defy simple outline terms for success in life.
then, wanna argue with you when, you like that shyt don't match and you will fail.

this is mediocre people too.
people who never been with any great lookers, or did anything of note past school and grades.
nuffin to excel in their professional lives or their real interests in their lives.

shyt is hilarious,......
just the delusion with people is funny, now.


art barr

 

[bouncy]

I don't need money. If life revolves around work as a couple I'd rather be single.

Nah, I didn't say it revolved around it I wrote it brings in more money. That means more freedom and that means more fukking

Women now a days get down too so we can both hit the strip clubs, chill in the crib and puff herb to relax, or whatever. More money brings more freedom and having two incomes bring more money. It doesn't mean we work so much we have no time for each other, we just have to adjust our time, and keep things calculated more then others, but that's the sacrifice to have more freedom, and more luxuries in life

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

It's a pretty long read but I saw a few points in here that have been mentioned in TLR before so I thought I'd share it.

Hookup culture isn’t the real problem facing singles today. It’s math.



Any thoughts?

*sends this article to an ex who has her doctorate*

 

[Koba St]

Majority of these so called educated women have degrees in bullshyt subjects that will never ever make them money.

 

[bouncy]

Majority of these so called educated women have degrees in bullshyt subjects that will never ever make them money.

True, but they are still smarter then what women used to be, and that degree can still make money. Back then we had to do EVERYTHING. That has to be a hard life. Even if you wanted your lady to work, most had no skills except for cooking or cleaning.

Again, it wasn't always like this. As men we should be celebrating.

 

[PartyHeart]

How so?

If a man is the one who is the prize, why would only 1% benefit from this? A woman who wants a family and yearning for children, is not going to let a man who makes less then her or has less status keep her from having that family.

I am not sure where you are getting that men are the prize from my post? Unless men have become asexual or do not desire children and don't care to have them in a stable home, they are bound by the same rules as women, just in a different way.

What I find in these scenarios is that men try to bank on the anomalies: a 40 year old marrying a 20 year old. A previously undesirable 30 year old man drastically increasing his income in 3 years to the point that desirable women now want him more than the more desirable men they wanted before. It is a losing game in my opinion. Women do not typically entertain men 10+ their senior. And unlike the past women do not have to pick mates based on livelihood alone.

So you just being a man with an income was much more likely to get you play back then than now, that is why a lot of men are complaining. You see it every day on this forum. There are more criteria to meet than basic needs because women do not have to depend on men. On the other side, a lot of women are complaining because there are not enough men meeting this heightened criteria. That is why I say both have to make adjustments but don't want to.

For men this means as long as we aren't straight bums and lazy asses, we have more access to women we didn't have before. That's why this is a lovely time for men. It's how you use it that determines the winners, and losers, but at least we can play!the game our way. Back in the day, men had to do all types of shyt for p*ssy. Most got married JUST to get p*ssy, we don't have to do none of that shyt now, and the women have more intelligence. Again, its just the type of chick you choose, and whatyou are willing to sacrifice to keep things stable. But, because we yield power now, what I give up isn't as much as it used to be!

O....k. I don't agree with the majority of this but I guess. Men have always yielded power, and in fact you yielded more back in the day.

I mean there is a reason you have all these posts begging men to celebrate lol. Most men are not experiencing this heaven you want dating life to be for them.

 

[DrX]

True, but they are still smarter then what women used to be, and that degree can still make money. Back then we had to do EVERYTHING. That has to be a hard life. Even if you wanted your lady to work, most had no skills except for cooking or cleaning.

Again, it wasn't always like this. As men we should be celebrating.

disagree...college cant make u smart....real classroom is experience...self learning

college is just a scam to get $$$$ and make ppl slaves to the system....

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

All bullshyt aside, here's my take... And this is coming from a devilishly handsome 31 year old, former engineer finishing up grad school.

-Yes, women lose HARD in the numbers game. But there are a lot of good women who are gonna get screwed regardless. Even if they wanna settle down in their prime, their equal (another 19 year old in college) is not ready and will likely cheat on them or take advantage of them.

-The upside is IF they can stick it out, the dude will usually (not always) grow up and when he's ready he wants to lockdown the girl that's been loyal to him and he knows best. (Most girls will argue with me about this point and how it's not fair. But I didn't create this world, I'm just speaking the truth.)

So let's say that doesn't happen and fast forward past all that and you're at where I'm at. Where people are educated, single, have a slight amount of baggage, and are in their mid 20s to 30s.

At this point in the game it's a crapshoot for BOTH parties. Contrary to popular belief, educated men are under the same pressure as women. We all want to have kids and bring someone home to make our moms proud. It's just that we're more jaded and fearful of a girl's past. But please believe, when a dude finds a quality girl she is wifed up with a quickness. I don't give a fukk what the statistics say. I've seen it with my own eyes. Guys will try to play the numbers game until a smart dude comes along and scoops her up. Then the guy who let her go is like fukk it, I'm not to scared to admit that it's happened to me.

I'm honestly at a point where I'm going to settle down with the next chick that is attractive, cool, and aligns with my life goals and views on life. Notice I didn't say "has two masters" because even tho I'll have that, I don't give a fukk if my wife does. It's not important. What's important is if i can build with her

Lastly, not all men are gonna stand the test of time either. I know some nikkas that fell the fukk off over the past 10 years. They're going to have to lower their expectations as well. They're not grabbing cream of the crop 22 year olds either.

 

[bouncy]

I am not sure where you are getting that men are the prize from my post? Unless men have become asexual or do not desire children and don't care to have them in a stable home, they are bound by the same rules as women, just in a different way.

What I find in these scenarios is that men try to bank on the anomalies: a 40 year old marrying a 20 year old. A previously undesirable 30 year old man drastically increasing his income in 3 years to the point that desirable women now want him more than the more desirable men they wanted before. It is a losing game in my opinion. Women do not typically entertain men 10+ their senior. And unlike the past women do not have to pick mates based on livelihood alone.

So you just being a man with an income was much more likely to get you play back then than now, that is why a lot of men are complaining. You see it every day on this forum. There are more criteria to meet than basic needs because women do not have to depend on men. On the other side, a lot of women are complaining because there are not enough men meeting this heightened criteria. That is why I say both have to make adjustments but don't want to.



O....k. I don't agree with the majority of this but I guess. Men have always yielded power, and in fact you yielded more back in the day.

I mean there is a reason you have all these posts begging men to celebrate lol. Most men are not experiencing this heaven you want dating life to be for them.

That's on them, but I know a lot who love it.

And you aren't getting what I'm trying to convey. In the beginning of pursuing a woman, this era is a golden age for men. I don't care about the age thing, idk why you keep bringing that up. Because we yield more power now, we can pursue different types of women. It doesn't mean that we will stay with these women, there are too many variables when you start going into that.

Men never had this ability to go through different classes of women, like we do now. I'm older, and seen the change. It wasn't that bad in the 90's, but it wasn't this easy either. Back then you had to do way more to attract an educated, higher income female if you didn't run in those circles like college or career. Now more women are out looking in the big cities, and all that degree talk isn't special anymore, so they do more sexual favors to get your attention. After that initial meeting in the first month or two, then the game changes, but this article is dealing with getting your foot in the door, and using the power you have once inside. That's how I took it

That's why they gave the example of women on the west coast being married more, and having low divorce rates compared to the big East coast cities. The west coast women yielded more power, and therefore demanded more. In those cases the man has to do what the women want to get in, and stay in the relationship, because she has power in the courting, and during the marriage due to no fault divorces. But, because these men are worth so much money, and they tend to lack the ability to keep getting high end women, they see it as an asset to have one woman whom they can trust, have access to in-house p*ssy, and have a family with, so they marry, and stay married. If you are a man with nice looks, average income, but knows how to make use of it, and have some character about you, the west coast is hell because you have to do so much more to compete with the urkels out there. For us, the east coast is a gourmet buffet

 

[bouncy]

disagree...college cant make u smart....real classroom is experience...self learning

college is just a scam to get $$$$ and make ppl slaves to the system....

What I mean is they actually understand the basics of life like knowing if she gets sick, she isn't going to pray the sickness away. It's sounds funny, but a lot of old school women did this, just like a lot of foreign women do now, and its from lack of education. The same for the basics in finance.

Trust me, I know a degree doesn't mean intelligence, but it lets me know you at least know something about the world, and not just your city or town. I've met women like that, and its hard trying to relate to them. All they know is Jesus, and the same old, same old. I can't do it anymore