Jigga got the Kanye, RIhanna Mr Hudson stimulus none of his solo songs stream that well.
We need to have a conversation about streaming numbers for Hov's classics
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Jigga got the Kanye, RIhanna Mr Hudson stimulus none of his solo songs stream that well.
Even at his most mainstream, Jay Z always has dropped wisdom or has been witty
Jay Z is far from empty calorie music. He arrogant, but not an airhead idiot.
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This is why the young kids are always shytting on Jay, and calling him overrated. They go to his artist page on these streaming services and it directs them to shyt like Run This Town and Empire State of Mind. They don't know any of his shyt before BP3.
Interesting, but Jay was Tidal exclusive for minute.
Different genre but what are Aaliyah's numbers compared to Jay? I feel like they both became fully avaliable on DSPs around the same time.
Different genre but what are Aaliyah's numbers compared to Jay? I feel like they both became fully avaliable on DSPs around the same time.
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He’s a Fake legend.. none listen to jay like that… Spotify proving frauds still exist 
Jay-z whole style didn’t age well bro…someone needed to say it, 
. It’s not just a lot of the albums and the sounds either, it’s just him as an artist. Even the bars don’t sound as crazy now as they did then. I wanted to make a thread on this a few months ago but forgot about it, lol.
, still undoubtedly Top 3 regardless, off the impact/work/radio hits/influence alone
. It’s not just a lot of the albums and the sounds either, it’s just him as an artist. Even the bars don’t sound as crazy now as they did then. I wanted to make a thread on this a few months ago but forgot about it, lol., still undoubtedly Top 3 regardless, off the impact/work/radio hits/influence alone
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Is it ghetto techno or is it can’t knock the hustle?
Dude can’t decide
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Jay's list is a great representation of what kind of artist he is. The kind that rely on other artists to stay relevant. The guy is on lupe's cole's kendrick's and drake's first albums. He forces himself on the features. Even watch the throne didn't really need him.
He always conducted his career as a hustler and business man so from that point of view, he did extremely well and gotta respect him for that. But from an artistic perspective he can't be consider the best. He still one of the goat tho
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Never understood the lengths cats go to to try to diminish dude’s standing in rap. If you don’t like him, and his music is not for you, there is nothing wrong with that, but to constantly try to convince others that your opinion on him is the only one that everyone should have is weird. Cats straight up celebrate and revel in any kind of slight directed towards him.
Not going to get involved in the Stan shyt or try and downplay his quality as a rapper, but we can all fairly agree that Jay’s influence on young rappers or young crowds is much less than his superstar contemporaries like Tupac, Biggie, Nas, DMX, Cube, Wayne, 50, Snoop and many others right?
Every single one of those rappers is more beloved by younger rappers and younger crowds than Jay-Z. It’s incredibly strange.
Every single one of those rappers is more beloved by younger rappers and younger crowds than Jay-Z. It’s incredibly strange.
Don’t agree I think only Big Tupac Wayne and maybe 50 have a bigger influence with a younger crowd.
Jay by far got the most haters out them all though and I think that’s partly due to the bias the media have had with him throughout his career, he’s been propelled as an East cost rep messiah businessman supremo leader of the industry so naturally many would hit back at that.
Amongst younger fans you’d definitely find more saying he’s overrated more than any other rapper of his time, but he gets more love from younger artists for his whole image and story, plent have called themselves the young or instert city here Jayz
Jay-z whole style didn’t age well bro…someone needed to say it,
These are facts
Jay was never innovative musically as a rapper most the nikkas on those streams were.
Jay was just a different level sonically and lyrically of what some other cat already been doin. Conceptually and with the pen he just wasn't innovative or creative as the Nas, Biggie, Andre, Pac, Scarface, DMX, Redman, Cube, Common etc.
You could clock his eras, swag, rapping patterns, even albums to shyt that been done recently to it and had a heavy influence on what he'd do next. It don't take nothin away from his rappin ability but he stuck around because of business and financial moves, Beyonce connect and being able to rap better than 98% of his peers so even if he rode trends, got hot features. Zoomers now have an access to music from past that never before seen and they fr diggin through the crates and they not bein influenced in real time to marketing moves like doin collab albums wit arguably the biggest thing in music at the time (Kellz, Linkin Park, Ye - just look at how different and random those 3 are
- if Ye ain't drop MBDTF and recover from the Taylor shyt like he did I bet WTT don't even happen lolBugzbunny129
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Yea i noticed jay shyt dont move the way other shyt moves myself.
I think Its because he didnt create his own sound and relied on others who already made hits with people (timbaland puff dre neptunes dupri). Also a lot of jay fans are trend hoppers in first place. They liked the singles, but the albums were never some great artistic works everytime out idgaf what anyone says. Blueprint black album RD are the closest to real legendary works. Vol 2 debatable because it was huge and i love it now more than then but idk if others do. I think its underrated if anythung by hip hop heads. Rest no.
I thini hes a def goat but im suprised how a lot dont know shyt about his catalog despite him supposably being #1. By the time jay had an established sound (the kanye just blaze era) everyone else was already on the wave and their shyt was a commercialized version of other shyt in first place. It was hot but only til tge next jay album.
was never an deep artistic innovator despite being a top mc imo anyway. He innovated being a nyc mc on other coasts sounds and turning them to hits. But once that sound reaches expiration noone going back and bumping them like that.
I think Its because he didnt create his own sound and relied on others who already made hits with people (timbaland puff dre neptunes dupri). Also a lot of jay fans are trend hoppers in first place. They liked the singles, but the albums were never some great artistic works everytime out idgaf what anyone says. Blueprint black album RD are the closest to real legendary works. Vol 2 debatable because it was huge and i love it now more than then but idk if others do. I think its underrated if anythung by hip hop heads. Rest no.
I thini hes a def goat but im suprised how a lot dont know shyt about his catalog despite him supposably being #1. By the time jay had an established sound (the kanye just blaze era) everyone else was already on the wave and their shyt was a commercialized version of other shyt in first place. It was hot but only til tge next jay album.
was never an deep artistic innovator despite being a top mc imo anyway. He innovated being a nyc mc on other coasts sounds and turning them to hits. But once that sound reaches expiration noone going back and bumping them like that.
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