yeah. dude is a brand. hes Jordan without the rings. people who dont listen to rap know who he is. but still, even with all the cosigns, and hype, no classics,
But J cole is from surburbiaYou miss the point 300%
They're not selling more than him though. Being an "activist" and being "real" are not the same thing. At all. You think Drake not talking about ANY societal issues is an accident. On his albums? NEVER. That's not even being an "activist" its being real, straightforward. The fact that talking about issues in your own community which you borrow customs, slang, and traditions from to make $$, is now being labeled as "activism" tells me all i need to know cac :blackumad:
I'm not talking about making nikkas feel uncomfortable with bytches. We can go back to "Song Cry" and talk about how it had nikkas in they feelings. Its not even that. I'm talking about calling people out. Calling out the bullshyt that goes on. The injustice. The inequality. It doesn't have to be his main niche. But the fact that its not even apart of his artistic identity at all is hazardous for rap. Because Rap being a platform for black issues IS THE MAIN fukkING POINT OF RAP. Drake isunless it comes to the parts of the lifestyle he can copy and imitate. nikka will where his hat backwards and say nikka 500 times but will NEVER address real shyt on his projects. EVER. No mentioning of anything with Eric Garner, no mentioning of ANYTHING with Mike Brown, and the guy at the helm needs to do shyt like that.
That in itself is the problem. Addressing shyt in your community isn't "activism" its honesty. Drake is black when it's beneficial. That's it. His music is so popular because he doesn't have that layer of worldly realness. He ain't a rebel. And that's good for $$ but bad for rap.
Everything he does. Calling bytches "bytches", saying nikka a million times, talking about drugs, and "bodies" and all this other shyt, when in fact you're from suburbia. You had a Bar Mitsvah my nikka. You ain't never struggled a day in your life, yet you got this nikka promoting bullshyt to black youth. At least when Jay or Nas did the shyt, it was what THEY EXPERIENCED as black youths in America, so it came from a pure place. Dude runs around saying nikka without even knowing how nikkas feel or addressing shyt that nikkas go through. Drake gives white people license to say that shyt.
You worried about "Drake Jokes" nikka how old is you? That nikka is worth 50 mil, fukk he care about some "Drake jokes" you sound like a kid B. You sound like you're 13
True artistry is being true. Nothing more. Drake isn't true. He's created.
its simple. Drake came out as a RNB Singer who raps or a Rapper who does RNB for the ladies. his raps were for the ladies. Only recently has he started making songs that were not particulary for hte ladies in some form or fashion. and i'm not saying he's selling out. i'm saying thats him being him. thats who he is. Cole has made some songs for the ladies as well. but he's a hiphop head rapper. so he will always be a guy making music for hiphop's sake while also trying to teeter on the line of making music for chicks too. drake = Club/Chick music. Cole is everything else(no trap music).I'm not being facetious, I am genuinely a bigger Cole fan. I've bought every single Cole album and I've never paid for a Drake album. I relate more to Cole and I like the fact that he doesn't sing as much as Drake (obviously he lacks singing ability), but there's just something missing with this kid. It's more than just charisma, it seems to be a lack of maturity/ability to present a universal worldview. Like, what the fukk was "Wet Dreams" doing on FHD? Why the fukk would I care about how Cole lost his virginity? Same goes for "Hello". Like, I've listened to the song a couple of times and I can't figure out why he thinks his audience would care. Drake just seems to have a more universal appeal, the ability to see beyond himself and speak in a general/abstract manner.
Apologies if I haven't articulated this right, but I remember reading an article talking about Cole a couple of months back, about his lack of an ability to speak beyond himself. Like, I hear 2Pac or Biggie rapping about their troubles, but I feel it. Same with Nas (not really a big fan) and the other legends. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
But J cole is from surburbia
And u said nothing bout activism
U said being safe
Being too honest bout urself is never safe...anybody who wants to take the focus away from their own flaws can be an activist
Some of the most lame ass fcked up ppl be posting on some activist sht on thecoli for that very reason
Again ur gripe is that drake uses his music as personal therapy rather than activism...
Why is that a problem?
There are ppl who make music to speak of all the worldly ills of society and there are people who make music to voice their own personal issues
Again....nothing wrong with either of those methods..because they both are art
This video basically sums up what Im talking about...again artistry is all bout being true to who u are
Drake simping an alrdy taken woman is something that is...well.....not the move in this culture
But Drake basically voices how he feels with details and all..despite whatever or however he's supposed to be
The fact u think being "real" is being a vocal activist shows how narrow u see life..and that u gloss over and cant see the greater importance of a focus on family,friends, love, etc.
Again like i said...one who doesnt do much in life and prolly stays at home every friday night is going to think the music is shallow but those on the opposite spectrum can recognize the depth of what Drake talks about
Is that it? I keep wondering why nobody on his crew stopped him from putting Wet Dreamz on the album. Like, why the fukk would your fans want to listen to a whole song about you losing your virginity? 
nikka what? Drake ain't no goddamn better rapper than Cole. Off pure lyrical ability? and flow?
Drake hasn't said anything cold in years. Cole raps circles around Drake, so does Kendrick. Drake just has a bigger appeal, better production, and he's more versatile. But as far as pure rap? Drake's lower echelon.
I love it when people try to make it seem like Drizzy is some lyrical messiah, when his tracks show otherwiseDrake is an average rapper. And an above average artist. Isn't the once in a generation artist that nikkas make him out to be. The only once in a generation artist we've seen with the new nikkas is Kendrick. You can make another Drake. Can't make another Kendrick.
Drake's stans keep him hot though. Even though he lacks classic music, he has enough people cosigning his garbage, that EVENTUALLY. people will be convinced its hot.
nikka what? Drake ain't no goddamn better rapper than Cole. Off pure lyrical ability? and flow?
Drake hasn't said anything cold in years. Cole raps circles around Drake, so does Kendrick. Drake just has a bigger appeal, better production, and he's more versatile. But as far as pure rap? Drake's lower echelon.
I love it when people try to make it seem like Drizzy is some lyrical messiah, when his tracks show otherwise
Drake's stans keep him hot though. Even though he lacks classic music, he has enough people cosigning his garbage, that EVENTUALLY. people will be convinced its hot.
because real nikkas feel that. real black kids feel that. i felt that shyt word for word and thats exactly what nikkas go through. And what I went through word for word as a youth. shyt that real young nikkas talk about with their boys. :blackye:
you just exposed what i just said drake is. he's a club/chicks rapper. to become a POP STAR. you need to appeal to the CLUB and Women. again, i'm not saying he's intentionally doing it to be pop. thats who he is, which is him being real to himself. i have no issue with that at all.But J cole is from surburbia
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Again like i said...one who doesnt do much in life and prolly stays at home every friday night is going to think the music is shallow but those on the opposite spectrum can recognize the depth of what Drake talks about
not even though. most of the people who listen to Drake that I know ARE THE HOMEBODIES, who live vicariously through the nikka. the nikkas who dont get hoes because they be on that drake simp shyt. nikkas who got "OVO" on their IG's
they get curved in real life.
#HOH is the way of this generation. its what the girls want. they shyt on nikkas who quote Drake lyrics on their I/G's, and shyt.
i see what you're getting at. its no different then it use to be way way back in the day with a group like say NWA. guess who was playing that the most? Hood nuccas or white boys from the burbs? you already know the answer is white boys from the burbs had it in extra heavy rotation. not saying the hood boys were not playing it too. we were. but the numbers dont like. you dont do those kind of numbers without white boy from the burbs. now its geek boy on world of warcraft. lol.not even though. most of the people who listen to Drake that I know ARE THE HOMEBODIES, who live vicariously through the nikka. the nikkas who dont get hoes because they be on that drake simp shyt. nikkas who got "OVO" on their IG's
that nikka Drake can simp and get bytches cause hes Drake. in the real world that shyt doesnt work
I fukk more bytches than most nikkas I know, and one of only 2 nikkas myage who has his own crib and car. And I don't even fukk with Drake like that. @blackslash is outchea frontin . But let him
They both serve different areas of rap. THe one that Cole is serving is a bit deeper though.
