What Stopped Bone Thugs Being on the Same Level as Wu Tang was..

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Three great group albums.

The solo albums are practically group albums anyway, just guised as 'solo' albums for business purposes and to infiltrate different markets by assigning various members to different record labels. But let's call them solo albums. Far superior to Bone solos.

The only argument y'all have is sales, and that isn't taken seriously in hip hop circles. Even then, Wu-Tang as a brand has survived the test of time and Bone hasn't.

Liquid Swords and OB4CL were the best solo projects, everything else .

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Liquid Swords and OB4CL were the best solo projects, everything else .

so no appreciation of Ironman, Supreme Clientele, FishScale, Cuban Linx II, Return to 36, Tical?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

so no appreciation of Ironman, Supreme Clientele, FishScale, Cuban Linx II, Return to 36, Tical?

Lol ya'll so brainwashed,most of those meant nothing

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

so no appreciation of Ironman, Supreme Clientele, FishScale, Cuban Linx II, Return to 36, Tical?

Nah man and I always felt method man was the most entertaining, but that Tical album was doo doo. I like a couple tracks from ghost, but I couldn't listen to a whole album by him. Better as a feature artist.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Nah man and I always felt method man was the most entertaining, but that Tical album was doo doo. I like a couple tracks from ghost, but I couldn't listen to a whole album by him. Better as a feature artist.

you are going against consensus you realise that? you are entitled to your opinion, but remember you aren't speaking on behalf of what the world thinks.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

you are going against consensus you realise that? you are entitled to your opinion, but remember you aren't speaking on behalf of what the world thinks.

And that's cool bro, I don't need the world to tell me what I should be listening to. I didn't grow up listening to any wu tang nor did anyone around me. I'm not going to just like some shyt so I could be looked at as a 'real hip hop fan'. The only wu tang I enjoyed was 36 chambers, rae, and GZA.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

And that's cool bro, I don't need the world to tell me what I should be listening to. I didn't grow up listening to any wu tang nor did anyone around me. I'm not going to just like some shyt so I could be looked at as a 'real hip hop fan'. The only wu tang I enjoyed was 36 chambers, rae, and GZA.

yes that's fine and I respect your opinion, but that doesn't change what I said earlier about Wu-Tang being better according to consensus, and certainly are more relevant today. That's all. Preferences are preferences.

 

[BO BARON]

Wu tang is bigger then bone thugs

Period

Bone stans gonna have to get over this


Wu on cartoons ,videos games, shows , comic books, nikkas got they own clothes (that actually sell) etc

Bone just aint have the personality or charisma to be superstars

Their not wu tang or a nwa

Dipset is probably bigger then bone also if you talking street influence(i like dips music more personally)

Bone thugs ate a great rap group that sold some records in their time but thats where it ends

Thats because wu tang was full of characters & clowns

Bone was just regular street dudes that rapped fast & harmonized plus they were better as a unit

Dipset was filled with comedians & clowns even more so

Bone evoked way more emotion and made songs that will be played at funerals & backyard parties forever

They were way more relatable than wu tang

Outside of new york and a few pockets in certain cities & other countries no one was listening to wu like that lets be real

Every hood in america & beyond was bumping bone back then

The only reason bone wont do world tours or have the global appreciation like wu is because they was always & still is very disjointed & was always beefing internally.


That was a huge let down for fans every time you hear about bone somebody was kicked out, somebody quit the group, somebody retired, the group refusing to record with each other & all types of other shyt

But musically & emotionally bone is truly iconic and influence the streets more than any group in hip hop history

Wu influenced hip hop not the streets

Dipset was a fly by night movement that had no influence & dont have any timeless music together

Best believe if bone gets their shyt together not play with fans emotions & really put their effort into putting out a project & going on a major tour they would do numbers.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Thats because wu tang was full of characters & clowns

Bone was just regular street dudes that rapped fast & harmonized plus they were better as a unit

Dipset was filled with comedians & clowns even more so

Bone evoked way more emotion and made songs that will be played at funerals & backyard parties forever

They were way more relatable than wu tang

Outside of new york and a few pockets in certain cities & other countries no one was listening to wu like that lets be real

Every hood in america & beyond was bumping bone back then

The only reason bone wont do world tours or have the global appreciation like wu is because they was always & still is very disjointed & was always beefing internally.


That was a huge let down for fans every time you hear about bone somebody was kicked out, somebody quit the group, somebody retired, the group refusing to record with each other & all types of other shyt

But musically & emotionally bone is truly iconic and influence the streets more than any group in hip hop history

Wu influenced hip hop not the streets

Dipset was a fly by night movement that had no influence & dont have any timeless music together

Best believe if bone gets their shyt together not play with fans emotions & really put their effort into putting out a project & going on a major tour they would do numbers.

Wu tabg didnt influence the streets? Whats cuban linx and what album from bone thugs influenced "these streets" more

You really miss bone. Im sorry.

Rip bone thugz

 

[RicanFury]

them nikkas was from Ohio or someone nearby that was rural right?, thats the real reason.keep it 100. they had some bangers commercially, but far as them getting wutang level it wasnt gonna happen. The scene was east coast inner city grit or west coast Palm tree violence not rural farmland and rustbelt towns as what most ppl view the midwest as outside of chicago.

 

[Wacky D]

you are going against consensus you realise that? you are entitled to your opinion, but remember you aren't speaking on behalf of what the world thinks.

and you are?

if youre going by the consensus, then bone thugs wins easily. but yet, youre in here saying "wutang wins. no contest".

The only argument y'all have is sales, and that isn't taken seriously in hip hop circles. Even then, Wu-Tang as a brand has survived the test of time and Bone hasn't.

you dudes stay trying to base your arguments on this brand chit.

let them both put a record out and see who sells more, and who drops hits. it sure aint wutang and their "brand".

and its funny cuz any other time, wutang fans are supposed to be hip-hop purists. yall shouldn't be concerned with anybody's brand. yall shouldn't be basing your opinions on branding or even acknowledging it.

you say sales don't matter but then turn around and argue about branding - which has less validity than an argument based on sales.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

you dudes stay trying to base your arguments on this bullchit.

let them both put a record out and see who sells more, and who drops hits. it sure aint wutang and their "brand".

and its funny cuz any other time, wutang fans are supposed to be hip-hop purists. yall shouldn't be concerned with anybody's brand. yall shouldn't be basing your opinions on branding or even acknowledging it.

That brand argument is to try and nullify those fools who justify Bone's superiority on the basis of sales. So that's a wash.

If we're looking at quality, Wu-Tang are clear winners. But you tried to cherrypick my argument without looking carefully at the context of which me and fellow 'brand' arguers were coming from.

If you're gonna use that argument that Bone sold more, well look who's survived the test of time and relevancy. If you wanna actually talk the music, well it is no contest.

 

[Wacky D]

them nikkas was from Ohio or someone nearby that was rural right?, thats the real reason.keep it 100. they had some bangers commercially, but far as them getting wutang level it wasnt gonna happen. The scene was east coast inner city grit or west coast Palm tree violence not rural farmland and rustbelt towns as what most ppl view the midwest as outside of chicago.

SMH @ the bolded.

dudes is really ignorant as f*ck.

The only reason bone wont do world tours or have the global appreciation like wu is because they was always & still is very disjointed & was always beefing internally.

bone tours overseas all the time.

don't listen to these wutang fans man. they try to make it seem like wutang is Carmen san diego or some chit.

bone thugs is indeed global.

That brand argument is to try and nullify those fools who justify Bone's superiority on the basis of sales. So that's a wash.

If we're looking at quality, Wu-Tang are clear winners. But you tried to cherrypick my argument without looking carefully at the context of which me and fellow 'brand' arguers were coming from.

If you're gonna use that argument that Bone sold more, well look who's survived the test of time and relevancy. If you wanna actually talk the music, well it is no contest.

I didn't cherry-pick anything. you just got caught in your contradiction. just take the L.
you dudes always talk about branding everytime wutang is losing an argument to somebody. even when no one is talking about sales.
and branding means less than sales.
if wutang sold more than bone, yall would be bringing it up in every thread.

for the millionth time I ask, how did wutang survive the test of time? they haven't been relevant since the '90s. yall cant answer that, and when yall try to, all yall bring up is branding or that weird white guy who gave wutang the million dollars that was stuck in-between his couch.

how is wutang winning in quality? we can line the albums up, and bone wins every single battle. and don't give me that lame argument about how all the wutang solo albums are group releases. its bullchit.

 

[BO BARON]

Wu tabg didnt influence the streets? Whats cuban linx and what album from bone thugs influenced "these streets" more

You really miss bone. Im sorry.

Rip bone thugz

Wasnt nobody in east oakland, 5th ward, southside Chicago or compton bumping obfcl stop it

Obfcl influenced Mafioso rappers & is extremely revered in hip hop not the streets

As a group & the timeless street music they consistently put out yes they were very influential & inpactful to the streets especially back then

I guess only real nikkas can relate

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

I didn't cherry-pick anything. you just got caught in your contradiction. just take the L.
you dudes always talk about branding everytime wutang is losing an argument to somebody. even when no one is talking about sales.
and branding means less than sales.
if wutang sold more than bone, yall would be bringing it up in every thread.

for the millionth time I ask, how did wutang survive the test of time? they haven't been relevant since the '90s. yall cant answer that, and when yall try to, all yall bring up is branding or that weird white guy who gave wutang the million dollars that was stuck in-between his couch.

how is wutang winning in quality? we can line the albums up, and bone wins every single battle. and don't give me that lame argument about how all the wutang solo albums are group releases. its bullchit.

Most (if not all) Bone Thugs supporters have immediately resorted to sales to justify Bone being better. Oh Wu are irrelevant old and dusty, no black person listens etc. meanwhile Bone has sold x...therefore Bone >>>.

Wu-Tang are still relevant and talked about. They headline the same shows that Bone open up. They have transcended the music industry. You cannot call that Martin Skhreli situation 'weird' because they managed to get 2 mil for that album. This is of course relative to Bone. I'm not claiming Wu are top of the game like Drake or something. I'm talking relative to Bone, who are practically non-existent.

Now lets focus on quality. Line the albums up. And are you seriously ignorant to think those solo joints in the first wave of Wu releases (93-97) are actual solo albums?