What was the biggest reason for the drop off sales wise between Diddy’s 1st and 2nd albums?

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Exactly why death row fell off

No limit dropped a new cd every week lmao

That isn’t why DR fell off at all

 

[Will Ross]

No way out was basically a bad boy compilation album.
forever was basically puffy.

 

[Cheese McNair]

No Way Out - Biggie died

Forever - Puff lost Mase and the Lox

 

[Yinny]

One was great, the other sucked

 

[CHICAGO]

No way out was basically a bad boy compilation album.
forever was basically puffy.

FACTS...

IT WAS PUFF DADDY & THE FAMILY -
NO WAY OUT

AS YOU CAN SEE
LOX, MASE & BLACK ROB
ON THE COVER.

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[JustCKing]

I don't understand how ya'll are attributing the failure of this album on "Biggie death stimulus" running out. Posthumous Biggie verses are on Forever. A posthumous Biggie album dropped months after Forever and sold double what Forever sold.

No Way Out was successful beyond Biggie dying. Ya'll do realize "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" dropped BEFORE Biggie died and was like a #1 smash.

Forever was BEHIND the times. Puff even had a red hot Jay Z on a single "Do You Like It", but the song was DOA. It went nowhere. Didn't even get a video.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Puff has no actual talent aside from executive producing?

 

[mbewane]

Thread made me go back and listen to Victory

Biggie

 

[Scientific Playa]

I'm sure grateful for the coli putting my old azz up on pocket watching, via that dude from Harlem, USA.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Reverse is an underrated posse cut

Journey Thru The Life too,shoulda kept it as a Bad Boy Comp/Feature type of Album but of course the Departures of Mase & The LOX didnt help matters....The Saga Continues album was a good Comeback joint tho

All I wanna know is who let hurricane g get in the studio

shyt was disgusting

Nikkas gassing these Spanish broads up that sound like men

Blame E & Reggie for that

 

[bigde09]

Puff became one of the most hated men in rap by 99. Rap also moved fast back then and he was making music that was hot for 96/97 not 99.

 

[JustCKing]

No Way Out was dubbed Puff Daddy & The Family, but it had just as many Puff solos as Forever:

What You Gonna Do?
Pain
Senorita
Do You Know

And if we're counting "Satisfy You" as a Puff solo, then you can add "I'll Be Missin' You" to the list.

Forever has 6 solo Puff joints to No Way Out's 5.

 

[CHICAGO]

No Way Out was successful beyond Biggie dying. Ya'll do realize "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" dropped BEFORE Biggie died and was like a #1 smash.

YOU JUST SHOT YOURSELF IN
THE FOOT.

CANT NOBODY HOLD ME
DOWN DEBUTED ON JAN 3, 1997...

ALL OF A SUDDEN
ON MARCH 22, 1997
IT WENT NUMBER 1 ON THE CHARTS
FOR 6 STRAIGHT WEEKS.

NAH IT WASNT
A BIGGIE DEATH STIMULUS AT ALL.


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[FunkDoc1112]

I don't understand how ya'll are attributing the failure of this album on "Biggie death stimulus" running out. Posthumous Biggie verses are on Forever. A posthumous Biggie album dropped months after Forever and sold double what Forever sold.

No Way Out was successful beyond Biggie dying. Ya'll do realize "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" dropped BEFORE Biggie died and was like a #1 smash.

Forever was BEHIND the times. Puff even had a red hot Jay Z on a single "Do You Like It", but the song was DOA. It went nowhere. Didn't even get a video.

No Way Out was FRESH off Biggies death and boosted by a tribute song that came out almost immediately after. there's no comparison there. Biggie had a ghost like presence on No Way Out. By 99 it wasn't nearly as much of a thing

 

[mbewane]

No Way Out was FRESH off Biggies death and boosted by a tribute song that came out almost immediately after. there's no comparison there. Biggie had a ghost like presence on No Way Out. By 99 it wasn't nearly as much of a thing

Felt wild hearing new Biggie new verses so soon after his death, was eerie