When did conscious rap become "uncool"?
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Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
Shows how much we have fallen.And after the medallions we was fukking with clothing that advertised black colleges
And malcolm x t shirts
Back then we were so close into getting to the day where
When the smoke clear, you can see the sky again
There will be the chopped off heads of leviathan
and thats all the "conscious" rappers need as well. so whats your point? youre not telling me anything that i dont already know breh.
most street rappers blow up BEFORE they get on the radio, unlike kendrick lamar & j.cole - 2 industry plants that you are championing as if they were chuck d & krs-one.
and i like how you conveniently ignored my other post.
is this a serious question? I "heard" the music and songs everywhere, in cars, over peoples houses, in school
just saying I never sat down and listened to that bullshyt in its entirety
every song i heard was about murder, killing, drive by's, the dope game...
i'm wrong? there are conscious/spiritual tracks on this album?
so basically you skimmed thru it.
youre in the same boat as me then. a guy that never heard the album at all. welcome to the club.
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
They blew up because the label chose them and put them on the radio.
If labels dont chose you then you get nowhere until you go independant with Tech N9ne being an example.
You know nothing about underground rap thats why you fail to see the power of labels and the radio lol.
this guy.
lol. YOU dont know the power of underground rap, judging from your previous posts.
i worked at a mom-n-pop shop, as well as promotions, btw.
like i said, youre not telling me anything i dont already know with your worthless rants.
AND YOURE STILL DUCKIN THAT POST I DROPPED. some of you guys are full of it.
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
I know more than you thats for sure lol. Ive also noticed and tested the effects of radio influence on the people Ive met.this guy.
lol. YOU dont know the power of underground rap, judging from your previous posts.
i worked at a mom-n-pop shop, as well as promotions, btw.
like i said, youre not telling me anything i dont already know with your worthless rants.
AND YOURE STILL DUCKIN THAT POST I DROPPED. some of you guys are full of it.
Your words are worthless when you pretend that radio and labels doesnt have influence.
Tech N9ne and Immortal Technique and Lupe exposed the industry already.
Yo dumbass actually thinks it takes talent to sell a lot of records lol.
What post am I ducking? Link me.
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notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
I don't think conscious rap was ever cool.
The ppl that do it, Blackstar... Dead Prez... have little to show for it outside their niche. Unless you are conscious and also do other more marketable stuff like a Kanye, you are largely under the radar. People think Canibus only has two records.
They have never heard tracks like "Pay Me in Gold" (off of Fait Accompli) then wonder why he says shyt like
"I'm through giving advice. I just give concern."
"When you are ready to move to the mountains, it'll be too late to. And thats why I pray for you."
"The brand new lamborghini vans parked outside the FEMA camps... can't nobody change thier plans."
He'll rap a word like Rehypothication, and nikkas'll ask me sarcastically "What are you listening to?" like I'm stupid, instead of asking the better question "What does that mean?"
Rehypothecation Definition | Investopedia
Its the peoples fault, not the artists.
The ppl that do it, Blackstar... Dead Prez... have little to show for it outside their niche. Unless you are conscious and also do other more marketable stuff like a Kanye, you are largely under the radar. People think Canibus only has two records.
They have never heard tracks like "Pay Me in Gold" (off of Fait Accompli) then wonder why he says shyt like
"I'm through giving advice. I just give concern."
"When you are ready to move to the mountains, it'll be too late to. And thats why I pray for you."
"The brand new lamborghini vans parked outside the FEMA camps... can't nobody change thier plans."
He'll rap a word like Rehypothication, and nikkas'll ask me sarcastically "What are you listening to?" like I'm stupid, instead of asking the better question "What does that mean?"
Rehypothecation Definition | Investopedia
Its the peoples fault, not the artists.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
This is true
Y'all must be hella young or were in a coma for years at a time because Conscious Rap was huge in the early 2000's. Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, the Roots, Dead Prez etc. were all heavy on BET, radioplay back in 99'-04'. Conscious rappers like Mos Def and Dead Prez were scoring hits back then that competed with bling-bling era Cash Money. Basically, almost every rapper who was on the Chappelle Show musical guest list was dropping some classic conscious Hip Hop in the late 90's/early 2000's. Black Star debut album is a classic. The Roots Things Fall A Part is a classic. Mos Def Black on Both Sides is a classic. Kanye West College Dropout is a classic. Kanye had "All Falls Down" and "Jesus Walks" on the radio.Even seasoned legendary rappers like Nas took a more conscious stance on certain songs on God's Son and Streets Disciple. I'd say Conscious Rap in the mainstream died when all the alternative Neo-Soul/Nouveau Native Tongues era fizzled out and South mainstream Snap/Ringtone Rap took over and eventually gave way to Trap music.
Great post
U obviously haven't heard a PE song in your life. If they aren't conscious idk who is
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
first off what's conscious?
all of the most popular (high sales) are NOT trap or turn up music artists... i wouldn't say they are black power rappers but they aren't money, drugs, bytches all the time either
so what's considered conscious?
Everything works in cycles. Black kids dressing like hippies will bring a lot of PM Dawns and Arrested Development style groups back. For a long time it was looked down on for blacks to play an instrument like the guitar and sing. But times, music, fashion, they're changing. All this trap stuff is slowly turning into lo-fi house sounding music. This will bring about artists talking more personal reflection style music. It's all cycles.
I don't think conscious rap was ever cool.
The ppl that do it, Blackstar... Dead Prez... have little to show for it outside their niche. Unless you are conscious and also do other more marketable stuff like a Kanye, you are largely under the radar. People think Canibus only has two records.
They have never heard tracks like "Pay Me in Gold" (off of Fait Accompli) then wonder why he says shyt like
"I'm through giving advice. I just give concern."
"When you are ready to move to the mountains, it'll be too late to. And thats why I pray for you."
"The brand new lamborghini vans parked outside the FEMA camps... can't nobody change thier plans."
He'll rap a word like Rehypothication, and nikkas'll ask me sarcastically "What are you listening to?" like I'm stupid, instead of asking the better question "What does that mean?"
Rehypothecation Definition | Investopedia
Its the peoples fault, not the artists.
Read the entire thread to see how wrong you are ...
Oh yeah and act as if hip hop in the late 80's and early 90's never existed ...
I'm truly disgusted by how much of you hip hop fans have no real sense of history
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
For the record, conscious and political rap is still being made. Afrocentric rap is the ons that's dead.