"When God was dead for 3 days and 3 nights who was controlling the Universe?" - Ahmed Deedat

[JOHN.KOOL]

How are you gonna be "fully" one thing, and at the same time "fully" something else that is different from the first thing?

The answer is: you're not.
And you got nann scripture that will support this.

1. The Father has never ever ever been Flesh
2. "The Word" (Logos) is a representation. Jesus can represent The Father, but he cannot be him.

He can be fully one thing and Fully another because he is God, he can be absolutely anything. There are no limitations of God.He is the word of God, WHICH IS GOD, that was made into the form of a man as the scripture states.

I never said the father was flesh, when did i say that? I said the Word of God, WHICH IS GOD, like the scripture said was made flesh and is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ IS the word of God

'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God'

As this verse clearly states, the word IS NOT simply a representation of God but THE WORD WAS GOD.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Exactly...Jesus was a REFLECTION of the Father - but he was not The Father.

"The Word" (logos) means "symbol" is not "God".

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Why are you ignoring that verse above? The word is NOT a symbol or representation, THE WORD IS GOD and yet was with God at the same time because the word was also DISTINCT from God. Two distinct forms of the same God.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

You just said the word is God, which is true but neglected the rest of the verses i posted to you.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

Jesus did not just speak the word of God, Jesus WAS LITERALLY THE WORD OF GOD, which is God, and the word is made flesh, made into the form of a Human and dealt among us.

You said 'If no man has seen GOD yet they’ve seen Jesus, if we go by your interpretation, it doesn’t make sense'

It does make sense because no one has seen God, they saw THE FLESH. They didnt see the actual form of God did they? They saw the FLESH, Jesus Christ the human form that the WORD, which is God, was made into. If i dress up In a bear Outfit i can spend the whole day interacting with you BUT YOU HAVENT ACTUALLY SEEN ME, not in my true form which i am.

If God is Jesus in the flesh than they’ve seen God


If you dress up in a costume and people have seen you in that costume. They still saw you. They may not have known who you really were but they still SAW YOU!!!

However, if you sent out someone to represent you and that person spoke what you wanted to say and acted on your behalf, then they never saw you, they just saw the person representing you.


The only begotten of the father means that Jesus was what GOD made to walk amongst man. He was not GOD.

 

[Taadow]

He can be fully one thing and Fully another because he is God, he can be absolutely anything. There are no limitations of God.He is the word of God, WHICH IS GOD, that was made into the form of a man as the scripture states.

I never said the father was flesh, when did i say that? I said the Word of God, WHICH IS GOD, like the scripture said was made flesh and is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ IS the word of God

'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God'

As this verse clearly states, the word IS NOT simply a representation of God but THE WORD WAS GOD.

That original verse was written in a different language which has no articles.

Properly translated to English it says, "The Word was A god (little G)."

Jesus was "a" god - he was not Almighty (big G) God.
As God's REPRESENTATIVE, he has a higher status than most - but he was not The Most High.
There is only one Most High, Almighty, Big G God.


What is a "logo"?
It is a representation of something else.

When you write words on a page, those words represent you - but those words themselves are not you.

That's what it means for Jesus to be "The Word" (- the "Logos") in relation to The Father.

 

[IVS]

If God is Jesus in the flesh than they’ve seen God


If you dress up in a costume and people have seen you in that costume. They still saw you. They may not have known who you really were but they still SAW YOU!!!

However, if you sent out someone to represent you and that person spoke what you wanted to say and acted on your behalf, then they never saw you, they just saw the person representing you.


The only begotten of the father means that Jesus was what GOD made to walk amongst man. He was not GOD

MMMmmm. Wow. Riveting! Levels of drivel

Why not just use the holy spirit

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

MMMmmm. Wow. Riveting! Levels of drivel

Based on your previous comment, the Holy Spirit was used many times but apparently God felt that he needed to become a human in order to make the great sacrifice of himself to save mankind.

It’s the kind of thoughts that makes you wonder but for some reason it’s believable.

GOD the ALMIGHTY BEING would lower himself to a human and be killed by his own creation.

It makes so much sense that I can’t comprehend it.

 

[IVS]

Based on your previous comment, the Holy Spirit was used many times but apparently God felt that he needed to become a human in order to make the great sacrifice of himself to save mankind.

It’s the kind of thoughts that makes you wonder but for some reason it’s believable.

GOD the almighty being would lower himself to a human and be killed by his own creation.

It makes so much sense that I can’t comprehend it.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

If God is Jesus in the flesh than they’ve seen God


If you dress up in a costume and people have seen you in that costume. They still saw you. They may not have known who you really were but they still SAW YOU!!!

However, if you sent out someone to represent you and that person spoke what you wanted to say and acted on your behalf, then they never saw you, they just saw the person representing you.


The only begotten of the father means that Jesus was what GOD made to walk amongst man. He was not GOD.

If i met you dressed in a bear suit, then asked you to describe what i look like could you? Could you draw of picture of what i look like? And if you dont know what i look like how have you then really seen me? Have you actually laid eyes on me?

You can carry on talking about sending someone to represent you but im done explaining it to you. I have shown you what the bible says.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

The word of God, which is God was made into flesh and sent into the world, thats what the verses say. If you chose just to ignore what it says thats up to you. The bible doesn't say Jesus Christ was a representation of God, it says he is the Word of God, which is God, that was made flesh and dealt among us.

 

[Swagnificent]

Stop making baseless claims. It makes you look like you are unwell.

Every time revolutionary truth has been brought to humans, the majority like you claim the one bringing the truth is unwell or delusional.

Since I learned the truth of our simulated reality my life has gone exactly the way I want it to be. The power of thought in this reality is so powerful that if you visualize your dreams and believe they will come into fruition, they'll come true.

I'm only trying to help yall out.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Based on your previous comment, the Holy Spirit was used many times but apparently God felt that he needed to become a human in order to make the great sacrifice of himself to save mankind.

It’s the kind of thoughts that makes you wonder but for some reason it’s believable.

GOD the ALMIGHTY BEING would lower himself to a human and be killed by his own creation.

It makes so much sense that I can’t comprehend it.

As the bible states, the wages of Sin is death. As the word states, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins, sin MUST be recompensed. Its the reason why the Jews had to sacrifice a lamb WITHOUT BLEMISH. That lamb was a representation of Jesus Christ, THE LAMB OF GOD, which was to come. The key words is WITHOUT BLEMISH. Only God could be the lamb without blemish because only God can be without Blemish, seeing as every man has sinned, even Angels have sinned. God had two choices, either come down as a man and do what ONLY HE would be capable of doing, live a life free of sin, without blemish and be crucified so that his blood being shed would be the perfect recompense for the sins of all those who believe in him, or he could chose to not do that and as a result EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING WOULD BE DESTINED FOR HELL for every man has and will sin. He chose to humble himself be killed by his own creation rather than watch all be destined for hell. That is what God did for you.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

As the bible states, the wages of Sin is death. As the word states, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins, sin MUST be recompensed. Its the reason why the Jews had to sacrifice a lamb WITHOUT BLEMISH. That lamb was a representation of Jesus Christ, THE LAMB OF GOD, which was to come. The key words is WITHOUT BLEMISH. Only God could be the lamb without blemish because only God can be without Blemish, seeing as every man has sinned, even Angels have sinned. God had two choices, either come down as a man and do what ONLY HE would be capable of doing, live a life free of sin, without blemish and be crucified so that his blood being shed would be the perfect recompense for the sins of all those who believe in him, or he could chose to not do that and as a result EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING WOULD BE DESTINED FOR HELL for every man has and will sin. He chose to humble himself be killed by his own creation rather than watch all be destined for hell. That is what God did for you.

So God can’t create a perfect being? Lol are you serious?

Why would God lower himself to save his OWN creation?

Come on now.. think about it.

And now if God didn’t do it, all humans would go to Hell??? Lol

Who created HELL!!?!!???

God created everything.. He has control of everything.

Who is the one making GOD choose???????!!!?!!

Who has power over him???!??

Jesus offered himself to his father. Who was Jesus talking about the whole time when preaching to people? Who did he claim he was sent by? who was he praying to? who was he begging for relief while dying? why was Jesus so scared that he was crying blood and angels had to comfort him and he asked his father to let his kingdom come and his will take place? Who was he talking to? Himself??!?!??

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

So God can’t create a perfect being? Lol are you serious?

Why would God lower himself to save his OWN creation?

Come on now.. think about it.

And now if God didn’t do it, all humans would go to Hell??? Lol

Who created HELL!!?!!???

God created everything.. He has control of everything.

Who is the one making GOD choose???????!!!?!!

Who has power over him???!??

Jesus offered himself to his father. Who was Jesus talking about the whole time when preaching to people? Who did he claim he was sent by? who was he praying to? who was he begging for relief while dying? why was Jesus so scared that he was crying blood and angels had to comfort him and he asked his father to let his kingdom come and his will take place? Who was he talking to? Himself??!?!??

Idk why you even entertaining this bullshyt.
These negros cant prove nttn in that book.
Its just a compilation of stories

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

Idk why you even entertaining this bullshyt.
Thede negros cant prove nttn in that book.
Its just a compilation of stories

Yeah.

I’m
Done.

 

[Benefited]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Why are you ignoring that verse above? The word is NOT a symbol or representation, THE WORD IS GOD and yet was with God at the same time because the word was also DISTINCT from God. Two distinct forms of the same God.

How are you gonna be "fully" one thing, and at the same time "fully" something else that is different from the first thing?

The answer is: you're not.
And you got nann scripture that will support this.

1. The Father has never ever ever been Flesh
2. "The Word" (Logos) is a representation. Jesus can represent The Father, but he cannot be him.

The "word" is the spirit,just like "the son" is the spirit,its about the spirit and has always been about the spirit.

"As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your offspring, nor from the mouth of your offspring's offspring," says the LORD, "from now and forever."

"For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.

A person who is pure hearted and elevated and is awoken to become of the christ conscience,has the ability to deliver the words of the christ in modern day times same as Jesus. Jesus was just a man or allegory of a man who had the ability to speak the word through the spirit .But was killed because we were in our lower selves and couldn't handle the truth. He died trying to inform us that we all had the same spirit of god in us which made us all the embodiment of god,but we were just sleep. Jesus was a truth teller who convicted demonic people,spoke on behalf of the opressed and the have nots. We've seen the reactions to truth tellers even in recent history with the assasination of Christ figures. Thats pretty much the entire message of Jesus and what his mission was to inform us that we were all of the Christ. There will have to be another Jesus to wake up the chosen people as we have been put to sleep again by the Gentiles:respect:.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

The "word" is the spirit,just like "the son" is the spirit,its about the spirit and has always been about the spirit.

"As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your offspring, nor from the mouth of your offspring's offspring," says the LORD, "from now and forever."

"For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.

A person who is pure hearted and elevated and is awoken to become of the christ conscience,has the ability to deliver the words of the christ in modern day times same as Jesus. Jesus was just a man who had the ability to speak the word through the spirit .But was killed because we were in our lower selves and couldn't handle the truth. He died trying to inform us that we all had the same spirit of god in us which made us all the embodiment of god,but we were just sleep. Jesus was a truth teller who convicted demonic people,spoke on behalf of the opressed and the have nots. We've seen the reactions to truth tellers even in recent history with the assasination of Christ figures.

This is New age demonic lies.