When You View Rap As "Poetry" It Gives You A Better Appreciation For the Intellect Of Rappers

[Tunez]

Banks poetry>>>>>

 

[NoHalfWay]

Poetry

 

[nieman]

Im not talking bout the Future's , Keef's and Fetty Wap's

Im referring to supreme lyricists like Talib, Mos, Nas,Common, Lupe, Joe Budden, Tupac, Wale, eLzhi, etc. Just take away the music and listen to the lyrics as "poetry". Thats what rap is in its essence anyway. For instance,









Imo rappers dont get enough credit for their talent of expressing themselves with words. Not only that, but doing it in a structured way and using different rhyme patterns and techniques and ALSO doing all of this in a certain number of bars. I think the content of alot of mainstream rap overshadows the talent that these rappers have. They are genuises in my book. They have unique skills. Everyone CAN NOT do what they do. The ability to write poetry is a gift. Its not a coincidence that rappers are also some of the best public speakers and orators also.

Me and my mans had this discussion several months ago. I said "How come rappers aren't more respected as writers?" and his replay "There's too many of them. There's only like 5 for R&B and other genres."

 

[Mowgli]

 

[SirBiatch]

Aint no hard work. You seem to be the only person not getting it. If you need me to say "the art of rapping" so you'll understand then fine. The art of rapping at its core is poetry.

Not true. Check the daps.

And even if it were true, that's because the rest are nodding like morons and question your vague statements.

 

[Pifferry]

Not true. Check the daps.

And even if it were true, that's because the rest are nodding like morons and question your vague statements.

All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholics.
All rappers are poets not all poets are rappers.

 

[PhonZhi]

I said "How come rappers aren't more respected as writers?"

Imo the content (which is largely made up of ignorance & buffoonery) of most mainstream rap overshadows the talent of these rappers as writers. They paint THEMSELVES out as dumb and unintelligent.

Also nobody "spits" anymore in the mainstream, so alot of people have a misconception. The sing-songy, melody type flow has taken over and has replaced lyricism.

 

[Jean Jacket]

No offense OP... Are you white?

 

[Nobodyknows]

No offense OP... Are you white?

 

[MF budz]

Good thread my dude @PhonZhi . Some ppl can only appreciate "bang in the whip" tunes. I like the poetry style you're getting at. And most times that music has a message conveyed better with lyrics whether a good or bad premise exist for the songs.

 

[nieman]

Imo the content (which is largely made up of ignorance & buffoonery) of most mainstream rap overshadows the talent of these rappers as writers. They paint THEMSELVES out as dumb and unintelligent.

Also nobody "spits" anymore in the mainstream, so alot of people have a misconception. The sing-songy, melody type flow has taken over and has replaced lyricism.

They irony is that other artists/writers will be celebrated just for it being a hit, nevermind it not having any words...such as Beyonce

 

[PhonZhi]

No offense OP... Are you white?

No. Black. Im interested, is comparing rap to poetry a "white" thing? Or is poetry itself considered "white"? Seems like nerves are being struck here with the comparison.

 

[ogc163]

Good ol poetry

 

[Jean Jacket]

No. Black. Im interested, is comparing rap to poetry a "white" thing? Or is poetry itself considered "white"? Seems like nerves are being struck here with the comparison.

It's just that I dont gain "appreciation" from rappers by cross checking flow and cadence to anglo/roman standards. I take the artist for who they are. White people often examine black art in a vacuum and never really allow the artist to create their own space. No disrespect bro. I just got confused by what u are playing at.

 

[DrunkerThanAMotherfucker]

Gifted lyricists are the literary geniuses of our time.