When You View Rap As "Poetry" It Gives You A Better Appreciation For the Intellect Of Rappers

[PhonZhi]

It's just that I dont gain "appreciation" from rappers by cross checking flow and cadence to anglo/roman standards. I take the artist for who they are. White people often examine black art in a vacuum and never really allow the artist to create their own space. No disrespect bro. I just got confused by what u are playing at.

Not sure what these "anglo/roman standards" are that you speak of but no offense taken

 

[Love Sosa]

This is why 2Pac is the undeniable GOAT to me.

You could take an instrumental out of virtually any 2Pac song, from Dear Mama to 2 of Amerika's Most Wanted and it is still listenable. Literally every quality you could ask for from lyrics, poetry, melody, flow, emotion, intellect, turn up, etc. He was great at all of them. The instrumentals just added to the song.

 

[PhonZhi]

Gifted lyricists are the literary geniuses of our time.

Dude in your avi= gifted poet

 

[Jean Jacket]

Not sure what these "anglo/roman standards" are that you speak of but no offense taken

AKA Old English Literature.... Seems like we set the bar based on our state curriculum/white supremacy mantra when it comes to art and expression in the language of English. AAVE is its own genre to me, and it chaps my ass when people marginalize the art that comes from hip hop./slash the Black experience by "validating" our shyt through "poetry" as we know it from our textbooks... tis all breh.

 

[MrPentatonic]

I like lyrical expression, very few rappers get the lyrical expression & vocal expression mix right though. Its either "my words are the instrument" or "my voice is the instrument" when it should be both. Study all the greatest black orators in history, they always have both on smash. Rap usually leans on one side or the other.

 

[DrunkerThanAMotherfucker]

Dude in your avi= gifted poet

The best songwriter this genre has ever seen in my humble opinion.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

I still get chills when I hear "Follow the Leader." Even when lyricists like Rakim are just talking about how great they are, they have an artistic approach to it.

This is a lifetime mission, vision of prison
Aight, listen
In this journey, you're the journal, I'm the journalist
Am I eternal? Or an eternalist?

And this was more than 25 years ago. I still get that feeling whenever I hear it.

 

[PhonZhi]

I like lyrical expression, very few rappers get the lyrical expression & vocal expression mix right though. Its either "my words are the instrument" or "my voice is the instrument" when it should be both. Study all the greatest black orators in history, they always have both on smash. Rap usually leans on one side or the other.

The older i get i agree with @Love Sosa as far as Pac being the GOAT. He had everything. He was obviously influenced by preachers(perhaps MLK, one of the greatest speakers ever) in the way he elongated his words. Thats why i posted Dear Mama in the OP. Not necessarily the most lyrical song, but its the emotion and HOW he says what he says that makes the song great

 

[DrunkerThanAMotherfucker]

I still get chills when I hear "Follow the Leader." Even when lyricists like Rakim are just talking about how great they are, they have an artistic approach to it.

This is a lifetime mission, vision of prison
Aight, listen
In this journey, you're the journal, I'm the journalist
Am I eternal? Or an eternalist?

And this was more than 25 years ago. I still get that feeling whenever I hear it.

Rakim really is the God of rap...

He was the first to perfect the craft

To me, Rakim is Dr. J and Nas is Jordan

 

[CHICAGOrilla]

See my charm is very dumb
And my girlfriend 21
And I know that's kinda young and I only feed her cum
My jacob watch is short bus, man that's special ed
Cause the girls be droolin, everytime they see the VVS
- Sir Guwop

Poetry at its finest, pure art

 

[sharky]

this argument sucks because its simply forcing hip hop into an existing cac framework to be digested and understood

rap is bigger than poetry its more than music

 

[PhonZhi]

Poetry

 

[PhonZhi]

this argument sucks because its simply forcing hip hop into an existing cac framework to be digested and understood

rap is bigger than poetry its more than music

So poetry= a white thing

Thats all yall need to say

 

[Um. Ghouls]

@MAKAVELI25 @the cac mamba


Buncha aurally retarded fakkits

 

[the cac mamba]

@MAKAVELI25 @the cac mamba


Buncha aurally retarded fakkits

bringing up that fukkin buffoon young thug in this thread is embarrassing

fukk you and your flows