I don't have a ranking for CP but Hes the most skilled pg of all time. He just never really took over games like other superstars have. But I'd be lying if I said I expected him to change 2 different random franchises for the better in year 15 and 16. Elite shyt.
Ur correct I meant to add he really started to do that this year indeed.he's been doing it in this years playoffs
If you think this ring bumps CP3 20 spots then you viewed him too low in the firet place.
He's already the 2nd greatest point guard after Magic to me followed by Steph IT and Kidd for me. A ring definitely puts him in the top 30 with his resume and longevity that many some will rank above him don't have. With cats like him Giannis Steph Kawhi Dame Westbrook Harden still playing and in their prime it's going to be a lot of old timers knocked down the all time rankings cause everyone can't be a top 20-25 player.
UserNameless
Veteran
He’d be neck and neck with Isaiah for #2 for me , trailing Magic .
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I hate these premise type threads, he’s going to rank where you have them. a ring doesn’t define a legacy, unless you want to hold that over a dudes head to define them, especially one ring. He’s the last of the Mohicans ( Pgs that have to control the ball movement, and will pass more than score) he can get you points, especially late in the game, high mental iq, free throws not an issue, he’s been a leader, he’s been on teams we believe should have won more, and teams that were ass. He’s the guy that is a company man, sometimes to the detriment of his teammates, he’s had his share of dirty plays, he’s always shining a light on hbcu’s, and does a ton of charity work. He’s top 20-50 however you want to rank him
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Better than zeke, not in this lifetime
murksiderock
Superstar
First off let me say I always respect your posts, they're intellectual and promote well-rounded discussion!
But I'm not about docking guys for the era in which they played, it's not like they get to choose when they were born. When we talk about All-Time rankings, the most objective way to compare across eras is by weighing what guys were in their own generation. Now, I dont automatically believe that because you were great in your era you're better than a guy who wasn't as highly esteemed in his, but it has to be valued and considered...
Cousy and Pettit were heavyweights in their era. These weren't simply two All-Star caliber players, they were two of the very best players in basketball. In that era Pettit was the only guy to take a Finals off the dynastic Celtics, and judging by how guys like O talk about him and the lit we can find on his career online, this guy was clearly and obviously one of the greatest players ever. If he plays in a later era he's probably even better especially as that Celtics dynasty, the longevity of it, has never been replicated, so we're talking about an extremely dominant individual player who likely wins multiple championships if he's born 10+ years later...
Cousy was the first backcourt superstar and people lose sight of the fact that the way we view guys like Kyrie or Lillard today, is how he was seen in his era...
Moses didn't do what Durant did because he didn't go to a team that beat him the previous year, which woulda been the Sonics. I do agree that he was one-dimensional but his level of dominance and the way he used to work his matchups in big games is legendary shyt...
Dirk was a Top 5 player of his era, and like Paul, he was already an All-Time great player before winning the title. Most people consider him Top 25 and he definitely should be a lock Top 30...
I can entertain a debate with Paul vs Barkley, Frazier, or Erving, I think it comes down to if you value Chuck's, Walt's, or Doc's higher peaks over Paul's longevity. Erving specifically though was a transcendent superstar, he was somewhat one-dimensional but he's on a short list of pro ballers on first name basis amongst the non-basketball viewing public, he was a mega star in his time...
