Who cares about Hinkie stepping down. He's already done irreparable damage to the NBA and the 76ers.
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A lot of excuses and nonsense.Can't believe nikkas in here was saying nobody improved on our team.
Jerami Grant was a 2nd round pick who was a fringe NBA player when he started here has turned into a near top 10 shot blocker and one of the best rim protectors in the NBA in just 2 years. He's developed a handle that he didn't have before and he's a 3pt shot away from being a real problem in the NBA and he's only 21.
Robert Covington was a D-League player who couldn't get a chance in the league and within 2 years he is lowkey one of the best 3 and D wings in the league and on a very good contract.
Other players have improved on our team as well but the record isn't going to show that and you wouldn't know that by just looking at box scores. You'll probably just laugh at the players I named because these guys are bench players on other NBA teams that nobody knows but if they weren't in Philly they would receive more of the spotlight for the things they do.
To make definitive statements on 19-23 year old players like they don't improve is just stupid. I can't believe people are finished with Okafor after 1 year and are judging him based on this tumultuous situation he was placed in. No rookie player would have positive advanced numbers on this team because it's severely and negatively skewed by the quality of the team. If you can't see that then you're an idiot.
Covington is on a scrub ass team. He will likely be a 8th or 9th man on a decent team is a reserve on a pretender or contender.
Grant can't shoot, with that said, he has improved some and does have value. He would probably be like K.J. McDaniel on a decent team where he plays sparingly.
Okafor is ass at everything but scoring and flashing good talent. Not just bad but ass. Like horrible. He needs a lot of development and he's not a raw player either.
This team is fukking terrible. Noel is the only player who is worth a shyt. You are so use to watching trash that you forgot what decent NBA players look like.
You are an idiot b.
His rebounding chances percentage is terrible.
His ground covered is terrible.
His attention to detail on offense and defense is terrible.
Just about every little things categories or team impact numbers, he's the worst Sixer by a mile and the worst in the NBA by a country mile. How the hell you gonna be a modern NBA center with Kent Bazemore rebounding chances percentages and you don't defend the paint well. How sway?
Basic stats is for basic ass nikkas. Basic math ass nikkas. We been off that.
My nikka putting putting up worse advanced analytics than any season in Al Jefferson career. At least Jefferson could rebound and block shots at an good clip.@Malta outside of laker fans no one overrates randle like they do okafor. people go on about his scoring and act he's some premier big man already.
And bringing up Cousins in a conversation about Okafor, really?
Should we ignore last year completely and focus on his on/off numbers instead? There are plenty of things out there, both statistically and visually, that show Okafor has a horrid big. He can improve, but unless he gets a hell of lot quicker there is only so much he can do to get better.
Just to be clear I don't think there's anything wrong with being Al Jefferson 2.0, but I also don't think he's some kind of cornerstone.
Fine, So stop engaging and quoting me in conversations then.
That argument I had with you last night went too far to be just talking about sports.
You got your opinion I have mine , I'm not giving you any attention anymore
Smith was on last year's team.That top 10 defense also had
KJ McDaniels
MCW
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
JaKarr Sampson
4 of our best defenders replaced with
Isaiah Cannan
Ish Smith
Nik Stauskas
Kendall Marshall
For arguably the worst defensive backcourt in the NBABut I'll let you cook
CanNan did not play a major role like you trying to make it seem till the end of the year. Even early on, it was McConnell who by most accounts is a good defender..
Nik wasn't close to playing that mainly minutes to use his name to justify the defensively drop.
McDaniels was a terrible team defender. Part of the reason he doesn't get tick for Houston.
I agree that Luc was a big lost but adding Okafor who was terrible defensively made it a lot worse.
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Colangelo is a petty dikkheadjust wanted to see the coli's thoughts on this....
Report: The Sixers are a clown show and Jerry Colangelo is Bozo
andJosh Harris and the Colangelos...
After all those years of trying to clean up their own mess, now Philly has Bryan Colangelo as a gm I guess on the bright side it would be hard for any gm to do a shytty job from here on out with all of the assets Philly has, but then again they looking real susceptible for getting fleeced out of their assets now
The real fukked up part of all of this though, is that if Philly turns it around quick, Bryan fukking Colangelo will get all of the credit when Hinkie essentially left him a GREAT hand to play with. Usually when a gm is stepping down he's leaving the team with no cap room, terrible contracts, and few (or no) draft picks.
Most of Hinkie's moves looked good in a vacuum, but his biggest issue probably was not having a core in place yet. Although, with Embiid being injured, and knowing how good he could be when healthy, I don't blame him for being non-committal and sort of hedging his bet on all of those bigs. I wanted to see how Hinkie would've taken the team to the "next step"; he's a bit cold, but he's clearly a smart guy too ( I think the fantastic way he tore the team down and got all those assets display that), it would've been interesting to say the least.
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and for that, they have exactly 17 more wins, with the same possibly of nobody wanting to stay there when those contracts are up
now don't get me wrong.. looking at them, they are MILES ahead of the sixers.. but the sixers got zero #1's and again, 17 less wins... one of our top picks is injured and another isn't even in america... could that translate into a few more wins if we had them... i couldn't say it wouldn't
add in 2 top picks this year... and then we see what happens
trust me.. i'm a sixers fan... nothing about the last few years makes me happy... being 1 win away from the ECF, i was PISSED we traded away most the damn team to start over... all we needed was some top/high level FA
but if we were just going to flirt with being 8th seed/9th seed for the next 4 years, while getting the 19th pick... i wouldn't have wanted that shyt either
teams are basically looking at the top teams and saying "can we beat them" if it's a no... they basically saying "ok everyone is available"
if you can't beat the warriors, cavs, spurs, heat, thunder, clippers... can't even compete with them in a 4 game series... you might as well pack it up anyway
Improve in what measure? Scoring? He will. Feel for the game? Yes
Will he improve where he's weak is the question. Noel has improve each year but his impact barely goes up.
I hate this mindset. There is nothing wrong with getting to the 2nd round and going back to the drawing board trying to get that missing piece. Dallas did it. Phoenix tried to do it. San Antonio did it as does many NBA teams. Of course, no one wants to be where Philly was with Iggy as their best player. Where your best player is a 6th man on a great team and a starter on a playoff team and definitely not a legit all star and that's clearly your best player. No one wants that unless it's like Boston where you got top 5 picks coming your way at the end of the season and even they have excellent depth and great salaries so without the picks, they are in a solid position for the future.
But there is nothing wrong with being Miami, Atlanta or Toronto. It's quite enjoyable and your always looking for that one piece that could get you there.
The Warriors never at any point tanked. How the fukk are you tanking and giving David Lee 80 million? You understand the Sixers were fined last season for not reaching the salary FLOOR? They only reached it this year because of Javale McGee and Gerald Wallace adding up for a third of the team payroll. There's a grand distinction between trying to win and making bad signing (Kings, Bucks, Wolves) and fielding a D league team to manipulate the draft. Sad thing is, no draft pick is worth throwing away 3 seasons like they have.
I'd much rather live in the mid first round with a 8 seed team and get a crack at the best 3 and 4 year college players than erase my roster and pray for a Lebron. Lebron James really is once a generation. Coli will take the ultimate outlier and make it a constant
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But the Warriors still have three lotto picks in their starting lineup, which is a testament on how important lotto picks are. Most premier talent is found in the lottery, and the best teams typically have their franchise guys from lottery picks.