Who's the bigger fraud?: Kanye vs Drake

[JustCKing]

Outkast is still a duo...WTF are you talking about ? Would you put Q Tip, Havoc and Lauryn Hill against Kanyes catalog ?

You act like these 3 produced major hits for other artists

Kanye produced his own albums, the Be album and Get Lifted all while giving hits to singers and rappers....


Perhaps if he deployed all his production into himself, you'd have a point but when you are breaking new artists and making ya own classics while churning hits....


You get a pass.


Tell us what albums Drake has produced for himself ? What about other artists ?

OutKast was breaking artists (Killer Mike, Slim Calhoun) and producing for other artists as well. Them being a duo is irrelevant when we're comparing them to artists who had help. Q Tip was producing for the likes of Nas and Mobb Deep while working on the ATCQ albums. When he branched out on his own, he was doing stuff for Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Havoc was lacing Nas and Biggie with standout records while writing and producing within Mobb Deep. Lauryn Hill wrote and produced for Aretha Franklin, Carlos Santanna, and others during the time she was working on Miseducation.

 

[SirBiatch]

Trash post but elaborate

Ye's a fake revolutionary for profit who makes cac-friendly douche-rap yet postures as though he's real hip hop.

6 Fraud is a pop star who came into the game from Degrassi. He's not pretending to care about social issues or make grand statements. He's just a pop artist who wants the things that come with pop rap.

 

[Cynic]

OutKast was breaking artists (Killer Mike, Slim Calhoun) and producing for other artists as well. Them being a duo is irrelevant when we're comparing them to artists who had help. Q Tip was producing for the likes of Nas and Mobb Deep while working on the ATCQ albums. When he branched out on his own, he was doing stuff for Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Havoc was lacing Nas and Biggie with standout records while writing and producing within Mobb Deep. Lauryn Hill wrote and produced for Aretha Franklin, Carlos Santanna, and others during the time she was working on Miseducation.

Outkast is 2 people...stop right there.

Breh what albums did Havoc create outside of Mobb Deep that did well or got critical acclaim ?

Same goes for Q Tip and Lauryn Hill.?

Kanye produced his own, broke a new artist and revived another while making HITS for singers/rappers

Drake has no excuse for this laziness...

 

[Cynic]

Ye's a fake revolutionary for profit who makes cac-friendly douche-rap yet postures as though he's real hip hop.

6 Fraud is a pop star who came into the game from Degrassi. He's not pretending to care about social issues or make grand statements. He's just a pop artist who wants the things that come with pop rap.

Drake does not exist without Kanye breaking the mould first.

This new school era of 'being yourself' is all Kanye.The rest is just you rambling your distaste for both rappers

 

[SirBiatch]

Drake does not exist without Kanye breaking the mould first.

True. But is that a good thing? Ye, the super-fraud and super-lame, birthed these new school lames.

This new school era of 'being yourself' is all Kanye.

So rappers weren't themselves until Kanye showed up?

You need some major receipts for that one.

The rest is just you rambling your distaste for both rappers

 

[JustCKing]

Outkast is 2 people...stop right there.

Breh what albums did Havoc create outside of Mobb Deep that did well or got critical acclaim ?

Same goes for Q Tip and Lauryn Hill.?

Kanye produced his own, broke a new artist and revived another while making HITS for singers/rappers

Drake has no excuse for this laziness...

Kast has solo work as rappers and producers. Andre 3000 as a solo producer produced all of Love Below. Outside of Mobb Deep, Havoc produced Noyd's album as well as songs for other artists and produced one of Jadakiss's biggest hits (if not biggest with "Why"). Q Tip and Lauryn Hill didn't produce albums outside of their own/group projects, but produced hit songs for other artists.

Laziness has nothing to do with this. This about one being given a pass for ghostwriting and another catching flack for it.

 

[Cynic]

True. But is that a good thing? Ye, the super-fraud and super-lame, birthed these new school lames.



So rappers weren't themselves until Kanye showed up?

You need some major receipts for that one.

For better or worse is down to personal taste, prejudices and age so I wont into that.

Read that again. I said this era of being yourself is all Kanye. He made it OK to dress in whatever you want, rap about whatever you want again....

If you prefer the 3XL tee wearing and punch line heavy super lyrical miracle era with embellished ducktales then cool.

I am mad, you right. U in here debating on artists instead of getting in the booth and giving us piñata 2

 

[ECA]

One at least has a hand in the music making process. The other, for all we know, basically does nothing.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Drake doesn't have a classic hip hop album and to my knowledge cant produce any songs.

Kanye takes risks and produced his own music
Kanye is the original stimulus
Kanye has classic albums
Yeezy nike >>>>> all ovo apparel

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The guy is Craig David without the vocals mixed with Hovs wave-riding. Funniest part is he would've stunted Weeknds stardom on some Jay shyt....meanwhile Kanye put on John Legend.

Ye put on big sean kid cudi and travis scott
Thats three dope artists who all bring aomwthing different to the game and he gave us john legend

 

[blackslash]

Drake does legendary production for over 15 years?
Drake battled Common in the 90s?
Drake battled Mos Def in the early 00s?
Drake rapped in front of other rappers for years, only to not be taken seriously?
Drake put his career on the line several times making public controversial statements?
Drake resurrected Commons career, and introduced us to John Legend?
Drake produced Takeover?
Drake ghost-produced for D-Dot?


Last time I checked Kanye never hopped entirely on another rappers dikk to make an album in another artists sound neither.

FOH y'all Drake apolgist fakkits. Kanye IS hip hop and came up in this game fighting for his role and spot. Only you faq nikkas would compare to Drake who's a fully manufactured fukk boi.

Kanye and Drake do the same things? LOL, y'all nikkas literally FORCE yourselves to accept this nikka Drake. Y'all really must be attracted to him on some fakkit shyt

That dont matter because Kanye uses a large amount of writers when making rap music

It doesnt matter who he battled

This is a discussion on frauds

Kanye has been a cocky ass nikka when it came to his position as an MC but has utilized the "team of writers" formula drake currently utilizes

So how in the hell is one a fraud and not the other

If ur arguments are gonna be taken seriously u cant pick and choose

Its either ur a fraud if u have ghostwriters or ur not..its as simple as that

And according to you Kanye is a fraud

 

[Nobodyknows]

I dislike them both, gonna go with Drake though. Kanye has done more for music and has great producing. I've yet to see any evidence of his ghostwriters still...

 

[OfTheCross]

It's still that people are running with the narrative that Drake hid the "ghostwriting". If I'm not mistaken, isn't Quentin Miller credited with his writing on If You're Reading This, It's Too Late.

Learn what ghostwriting is.

 

[JustCKing]

Learn what ghostwriting is.

Learn what using "" means.

 

[OfTheCross]

Learn what using "" means.

You're using it wrong.

Why do you have it in quotes as if it's not something that literally happened?

If I go to the bathroom I didn't go take a "piss".

 

[JustCKing]

You're using it wrong.

Why do you have it in quotes as if it's not something that literally happened?

If I go to the bathroom I didn't go take a "piss".

Because Quentin was credited it's not technically ghostwriting.