Why are people in support of illegal immigration?

[calixprynce]

Man most of my friends are mexican. I've had illegal mexican mothers cook me up delicious foods and i've been with a lot of illegal women.

But for people to react like they have about ILLEGAL immigration is just weird to be. Like America is the only place that shouldn't enforce this law? What.... I mean, having millions of illegal people is just gonna weigh on every other legal citizens back. It's an ugly truth, but they should build that wall forreal.


And that "Make California Mexico Again" slogan..... Uhhhhhh, no im good. So are you, that's why yo ass is HERE.

yup , so when the shyt hit the fan in US, no bytch ass marks should be allowed to run to Mexico
build a wall on Canadian border as well

 

[OPTiMO]

yup , so when the shyt hit the fan in US, no bytch ass marks should be allowed to run to Mexico
build a wall on Canadian border as well

fukk it. We can do this shyt like a steal cage match.


NO WAY OUTTTT

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Dude is saying this behind the comfort of a computer screen and a broadband connection

Lol

So, what's your point?

 

[EndDomination]

Do you think that there's a relationship between wages and population growth? Especially for populations which already have high barriers to obtaining viable wages?

I have a 100+ dapped post in an older illegal immigration thread where I already explained my views on it.
There is a relationship between wages and population growth predicated on a myriad of circumstances.
High population growth within the "unskilled labour markets"generally will drive down wages in that specific market.
In this case, a whole bunch of border-line retarded unskilled White and Black workers are complaining that illegal Mexican rural farmers are taking their jobs.
The complaint is rooted in the fact that the groups job security was in the low wages themselves, no one but them wanted to pick fruit or do domestic labour for $7 until the refugees and immigrants came over, ready and willing to do any labour.
I'm unaffected because I actually graduated from high school and have a college education, the only immigration that affects my job prospects are high-skilled immigrants from West Africa and East Asia, who have the same tenacity as the Mexican and Central Americans who are coming ready to work themselves to the bone for the international lie of "The American Dream."

TLDR: If you pick fruit for a living, or clean houses for a living, illegal immigration will affect you otherwise, there are far bigger issues at hand.
Also: I never seem to hear about illegal Russian immigration (many of whom are coming to the US with ties to international crime syndicates), nor of East Asian illegal immigration which represent the second and third largest groups of "illegal immigrants."

 

[EndDomination]

It's very hard to govern a country without border control. In fact, one of the main attributes of a state is control over its sovereignty i.e. borders. How would you feel is a 100 million educated Europeans came to the United States because of this open border policy that you are advocating for? Or 300 million Chinese people?

You're suggestion is nothing more than useless hyperbole (no offense) there wouldn't be a flood of 100 million educated Europeans or 300 million Chinese people.
A much more fluid bureauocracy, and a heavier focus on social/public welfare could solve a lot of the issues that come with an "open-border policy."
Which wouldn't just be "let anybody over without questioning them" but rather "allow people to immigrate into the country under the watch of the government, with fast and well-planned allocation of new populations to less densely populated areas with equally well-planned social services that allow an easy fusion into the American socio-economic system.
The issue is the government here is trash and can't even properly take care of it's own citizenry.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I have a 100+ dapped post in an older illegal immigration thread where I already explained my views on it.
There is a relationship between wages and population growth predicated on a myriad of circumstances.
High population growth within the "unskilled labour markets"generally will drive down wages in that specific market.
In this case, a whole bunch of border-line retarded unskilled White and Black workers are complaining that illegal Mexican rural farmers are taking their jobs.
The complaint is rooted in the fact that the groups job security was in the low wages themselves, no one but them wanted to pick fruit or do domestic labour for $7 until the refugees and immigrants came over, ready and willing to do any labour.
I'm unaffected because I actually graduated from high school and have a college education, the only immigration that affects my job prospects are high-skilled immigrants from West Africa and East Asia, who have the same tenacity as the Mexican and Central Americans who are coming ready to work themselves to the bone for the international lie of "The American Dream."

TLDR: If you pick fruit for a living, or clean houses for a living, illegal immigration will affect you otherwise, there are far bigger issues at hand.
Also: I never seem to hear about illegal Russian immigration (many of whom are coming to the US with ties to international crime syndicates), nor of East Asian illegal immigration which represent the second and third largest groups of "illegal immigrants."

"border-line retarded" isn't a nice way to describe your fellow citizens while sacrificing them for foreigners.

Your post doesn't assume that these illegal immigrants bring in family members who compete with African-Americans and other disadvantaged peoples in the United States outside of rural agricultural labour. That's not the case. Illegal immigrants are increasingly employed outside of that sector and even in the services industry which directly affect African-Americans. Moreover, illegal immigrants have children who compete with African-American youth for the same jobs.

 

[Insun Park]

White people illegally immigrated and kidnapped my ancestors.
The ones that weren't kidnapped (my grandmothers paternal side) were already and here and killed off or segregated.
I don't respect white supremacist rules, and I don't respect you if you try to wrap up the rules in some pseudo-pro Black rhetoric.

Most of the people coming here are white supremacists with brown skin

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

You're suggestion is nothing more than useless hyperbole (no offense) there wouldn't be a flood of 100 million educated Europeans or 300 million Chinese people.
A much more fluid bureauocracy, and a heavier focus on social/public welfare could solve a lot of the issues that come with an "open-border policy."
Which wouldn't just be "let anybody over without questioning them" but rather "allow people to immigrate into the country under the watch of the government, with fast and well-planned allocation of new populations to less densely populated areas with equally well-planned social services that allow an easy fusion into the American socio-economic system.
The issue is the government here is trash and can't even properly take care of it's own citizenry.

It's not hyperbole. Defend your principled stance unless you're a situational utilitarian! If that's the case, then your stance for illegal immigration is easily undermined by my previous questions and statements.

I question why would you favour illegal immigration over legal immigration with easier standards of admission, at the very least?

In addition, your comments about a more fluid bureaucracy and heavier focus on social welfare smacks of you trying to 'legalize' illegal immigration. Please sir, stop.

 

[Sean312]

Nobody really supports it except for Hispanics and people who are not awoke.

 

[OPTiMO]

I have a 100+ dapped post in an older illegal immigration thread where I already explained my views on it.
There is a relationship between wages and population growth predicated on a myriad of circumstances.
High population growth within the "unskilled labour markets"generally will drive down wages in that specific market.
In this case, a whole bunch of border-line retarded unskilled White and Black workers are complaining that illegal Mexican rural farmers are taking their jobs.
The complaint is rooted in the fact that the groups job security was in the low wages themselves, no one but them wanted to pick fruit or do domestic labour for $7 until the refugees and immigrants came over, ready and willing to do any labour.
I'm unaffected because I actually graduated from high school and have a college education, the only immigration that affects my job prospects are high-skilled immigrants from West Africa and East Asia, who have the same tenacity as the Mexican and Central Americans who are coming ready to work themselves to the bone for the international lie of "The American Dream."

TLDR: If you pick fruit for a living, or clean houses for a living, illegal immigration will affect you otherwise, there are far bigger issues at hand.
Also: I never seem to hear about illegal Russian immigration (many of whom are coming to the US with ties to international crime syndicates), nor of East Asian illegal immigration which represent the second and third largest groups of "illegal immigrants."

Bruh..... stop.


I mean, they all should come here legally. But don't act like those 2 groups are on the same level as the illegal mexican immigrants we got going on here.

 

[EndDomination]

Bruh..... stop.


I mean, they all should come here legally. But don't act like those 2 groups are on the same level as the illegal mexican immigrants we got going on here.

I don't play favourites with other races. If you're anti illegal, that means all of them, not just the ones cacs dislike the most.

 

[OPTiMO]

I don't play favourites with other races. If you're anti illegal, that means all of them, not just the ones cacs dislike the most.

That's not the point. It's that they are a small percentage of the actual issue. But yeah, fukk them too.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I don't play favourites with other races. If you're anti illegal, that means all of them, not just the ones cacs dislike the most.

But you have a Patrice Lumumba avi!!!

Do you think Lumumba would have felt comfortable with 100,000 Belgians coming to the Congo after independence in 1960?

Coli Africanists are now all suspect.

 

[EndDomination]

But you have a Patrice Lumumba avi!!!

Do you think Lumumba would have felt comfortable with 100,000 Belgians coming to the Congo after independence in 1960?

Coli Africanists are now all suspect.

I do indeed, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand, you're trying to move goalposts and use logical fallacies to make me seem disingenuous.
My rhetoric is specifically about America, a state founded by Western European genocidal colonialists on the backs of enslaved African people (as well as Native Americans, and later Mexican Americans and Chinese-Americans, if I'm being historically accurate).
Considering the Belgians were genocidal colonists, I'd imagine he would not have allowed that to happen, what does a colonial population flooding of a recently independent state have to do with illegal immigration into the US?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

The replies in this thread is the outcome of politicizing non-political issues like a country's right to protect its borders

White people illegally immigrated and kidnapped my ancestors.
The ones that weren't kidnapped (my grandmothers paternal side) were already and here and killed off or segregated.
I don't respect white supremacist rules, and I don't respect you if you try to wrap up the rules in some pseudo-pro Black rhetoric.

lol. Assuming you're black, aren't you force wrapping your support/understanding of illegal immigration with pseudo-pro Black rhetoric by talmbowt what was done to your ancestors? Two completely different discussions that the OP did not make a connection between when the question was posted. But you did

There's not such thing as illegal immigration

There are no rules in the world, people should be allowed to go wherever they want

All humans had to "migrate" to get from place to place. Was it illegal then?

Whites in America made it cool for their people to migrate here without repercussions then kicked out the people who been here before them

smh. Name any country that promotes illegal immigration