Why are single moms the devil again?

[Maximus]

so where do you stand on premarital sex?
I have no problem with premarital sex as long as the partners are responsible.
premarital sex leads to oow children
and stds
and abortions

I know this wasn't specifically addressed to me, but I'll answer anyway.

I have no problem with premarital sex as long as the partners are responsible. These things you listed result from reckless sex. I've had about as much sex as anybody here(or likely far more given this board is filled with virgins), but I've never had STD's or produced out of wedlock children.

It's called being responsible. You have to be responsible.

I'll take that back. It's not even a race thing tbh....black college girls ain't getting pregnant like that either.

Just the hood boogers.

It's not just the hood boogers. I've seen several examples of Black girls from middle class, two parent homes somehow getting knocked up by losers. Poor reproductive decision making is occurring at all levels; it's a cultural problem. Although I do agree that it's far more prevalent in the hood.

 

[Neuromancer]

We're forgetting a key element here, a good amount of these deadbeat dads aren't low life scrubs they are men living in a blameless culture that treats being a lazy bum like its nothing. If he takes care of his kids he deserves a medal, if he doesn't then oh well "most nikkas don't anyway". It's crazy cause I know a lot of guys who are college students, if not then they work and are still deadbeats. Having a father has become this weird privilege, not a right.

First off nice avi. Second who enables these people? Who seemingly rewards them for fukking up? We need to eliminate these elements.

 

[marcuz]

he problem is there is no getting through to them, because after all they're.....not shyt.

and because women still fukk them

 

[FTBS]

We're forgetting a key element here, a good amount of these deadbeat dads aren't low life scrubs they are men living in a blameless culture that treats being a lazy bum like its nothing. If he takes care of his kids he deserves a medal, if he doesn't then oh well "most nikkas don't anyway". It's crazy cause I know a lot of guys who are college students, if not then they work and are still deadbeats. Having a father has become this weird privilege, not a right.

If you have a child and you don't take care of them, you are a low life scrub no matter how much money or education or fame you may have. I hear way more about deadbeat dads and guys getting garnished out the ass for child support than I do women making shytty choices. Single mother hood is treated like some badge of honor and reckless sexuality is celebrated as a sign strength and being in control (despite being the exact opposite). Thing is, it doesn't matter what society or even other men say about a guy, if he is getting p*ssy and has all his other needs met he has 0 reason to change. You would think that the discomfort associated with childbearing and the pain associated with birth and the stress and pressure associated with doing those things and raising a child alone would provide females with a reason to change but apparently it doesn't.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

and because women still fukk them

Exactly, how am I gonna tell another man to clean himself up and do better in his life if women are constantly rewarding him for his bullshyt antics?

What reason does he have to listen to me?

 

[godkiller]

maybe bc most of them are dumb as fuk and need to learn to keep their goddamn legs closed instead of bringing more idiotic children into the world.

This is a stupid as fukk statement. Without single mothers I don't even think African Americans would exist. Most African American men and women are born to single mothers. So yeah maybe they should stop bringing idiotic African American children into the world.

 

[godkiller]

i applaud you for trying brother

but no matter what angle you try to come at this from the usual suspects will come along and still find a way to blame the woman

It's shocking the kind of stupidity the Coli goes on with. Black American issues are not because of single mothers. There are countries all over the world with high single mother rates and otherwise few social problems. The difference is that those countries have more government support for mothers in the form of daycare, money amounts, etc.

 

[Maximus]

and because women still fukk them

It's a waste of time to shame a guy who is getting rewarded for his bad behavior(getting the p*ssy). After all, he's getting what he wants.

It makes far more sense to shame the person who is rewarding the guy for bad behavior(the woman giving him the p*ssy).

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

We're forgetting a key element here, a good amount of these deadbeat dads aren't low life scrubs they are men living in a blameless culture that treats being a lazy bum like its nothing. If he takes care of his kids he deserves a medal, if he doesn't then oh well "most nikkas don't anyway". It's crazy cause I know a lot of guys who are college students, if not then they work and are still deadbeats. Having a father has become this weird privilege, not a right.

That's because it's overkill now.Men have always been shamed for refusing/failing to take care of their kids.People are numb to it.

The scrutiny aimed at single moms is still a relatively new phenomenon.Fresh off the press.

 

[godkiller]

I can't speak for anybody else, but I feel single mothers should be shamed for their behavior. One of the biggest, if not the biggest problem in Black America today, is the near complete breakdown of the nuclear Black family and the eradication of the Black patriarchal structure. It is the main reason why we can't organize and get anything of significance done. It is the main reason why there are no real standards of conduct enforced by the "community" on both genders; it is the main reason why the illegitimacy birthrate is off the charts and continues to get worse producing multiple generations of disfunction.

Single mothers who willingly choose to bring a child into the world by a man who is not committed to them and that they know is in no position to provide for a child are adding to the problem and for that they should be shamed. Society won't do it, so we might as well.

While African Americans should encourage marriage, the fact is that single mothers are not the prime reason African Americans have social problems. African Americans had much of the similar social problems when the African American marriage rate was higher than white people's marriage rate several decades ago. Therefore single mothers are NOT THE REASON BEHIND AFRICAN AMERICAN SOCIAL ILLS.

As such you morons spending your time talking about single mothers is just a deflection. When blacks were married they still had high crime rates, high unemployment, etc. MARRIAGE DID NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN ILLS. The problem comes down to African American lack of education, income, etc, not single motherhood.

 

[AAKing23]

its the only foolproof way
the consensus is that theres clearly aint shyt dudes
and then theres those who are just liars even though they seem okay
[never mind supposedly we women dont have enough logic to choose better or mindread]
waiting till after marriage is a great limitus test as to whether they guy is just saying whatever to get his dikk wet
so no premarital sex
no out of wedlock babies.

numerous times in this thread the brehs have rightfully pointed out that "yeah well the men who aint shyt aint shyt, we vilanize them but women need to choose better"since they will bear the bulk if not all of the responsibility.

waiting for marriage is choosing better. its choosing best.

all this casual sex is not to the benefit of women.

honestly its like you want me and you to go out and gamble but we only gonna spend my money


close up shop completely ladies until youre down that aisle.

People just need to be more sexually responsible period both men and women. People just wanna lay down with anybody and not feel the consequences of it nowadays.



I personally practice what I preach and I am waiting until I find a woman who's marriage material but nowadays it seems to be a losing fight. It's like finding a needle in a haystack. By the time I'm 25 most of these chicks will have had at least one baby by then if not multiple, and will be looking for a dude like me to settle with like I'm supposed to step up and pay for someone else's sexual irresponsibility. fukk that

 

[wickedsm]

I know this wasn't specifically addressed to me, but I'll answer anyway.

I have no problem with premarital sex as long as the partners are responsible. These things you listed result from reckless sex. I've had about as much sex as anybody here(or likely far more given this board is filled with virgins), but I've never had STD's or produced out of wedlock children.

It's called being responsible. You have to be responsible.





It's not just the hood boogers. I've seen several examples of Black girls from middle class, two parent homes somehow getting knocked up by losers. Poor reproductive decision making is occurring at all levels; it's a cultural problem. Although I do agree that it's far more prevalent in the hood.

out of wedlock babies come from irresponsible sex.
clearly being responsible is too much for some folks.
and here we are

 

[AkilinaArina]

If you have a child and you don't take care of them, you are a low life scrub no matter how much money or education or fame you may have. I hear way more about deadbeat dads and guys getting garnished out the ass for child support than I do women making shytty choices. Single mother hood is treated like some badge of honor and reckless sexuality is celebrated as a sign strength and being in control (despite being the exact opposite). Thing is, it doesn't matter what society or even other men say about a guy, if he is getting p*ssy and has all his other needs met he has 0 reason to change. You would think that the discomfort associated with childbearing and the pain associated with birth and the stress and pressure associated with doing those things and raising a child alone would provide females with a reason to change but apparently it doesn't.

The point is most black men are not lazy thugs on a corner, most go to school or work and are striving for better but because of this blameless culture and because single motherhood has become the norm a good amount of men who aren't "bad choices" in mates are leaving too. It is what it is. The ones who are staying to raise the children are the moms and that's not because they have to stay because there are more than enough means to getting rid of children (abortion, adoption, group homes etc.) it's because they're doing what needs to be done.

 

[AAKing23]

That's because it's overkill now.Men have always been shamed for refusing/failing to take care of their kids.People are numb to it.

The scrutiny aimed at single moms is still a relatively new phenomenon.Fresh off the press.

And if you bring it up people will look at you like a villain. It's a very taboo subject, Whenever I bring it up around my female relatives or friends about women needing to held accountable I get shut down with the quickness.


shyt is borderline sacrilegious status.

 

[godkiller]

The point is most black men are not lazy thugs on a corner, most go to school or work and are striving for better but because of this blameless culture and because single motherhood has become the norm a good amount of men who aren't "bad choices" in mates are leaving too. It is what it is. The ones who are staying to raise the children are the moms and that's not because they have to stay because there are more than enough means to getting rid of children (abortion, adoption, group homes etc.) it's because they're doing what needs to be done.

Exactly. A good number of black men are infected by this blameless black culture which encourages, subtly and overly, black men to leave their mates in search of party and adventure. The black women who keep their children do what needs to be done. The alternative is abortion and a plummeting black birth rate, which only further worsens African American's situation in the USA. African Americans' abortion rate is part of the reason the birth rate is so low. And once that birth rate hits a certain point, African Americans will cease to exist in the USA.

All this morons whining about single mothers are basically quickening their own race's demise. B-b-buh black Americans can be like Jews! Jews are not a race. They are a type of white, which is what you will be in the next 100 years.