Why do people shyt on Steph Curry for winning an injured Cavs team but give LeBron and Kawhi a pass?

[Professor Emeritus]

I can tell this era of people never saw real NBA dominant basketball live for real.
in the cbs broadcast of lakers versus Celts.
If they did..they would have had real disgust watching.

The Lakers come in like show time.
Then in the finals, the Lakers play a rival team.
Again in the finals, of all places.
looking to compete in the finals,..
virtually playing three or five every possession in the finals. The finals.
Just an ignorant lack of attention to detail.
In an isolated arena built on having a premium.
on time allotted on self reflection.
to administer a strong will to create definite change.
What we saw was spo live in a bubble and not do anything to really create change. While having all the time and resources to administer a different result.
than what was on the scouting and video reports. Spo is supposed to be the greatest video locker room manager of all time. Videographer, is even up for debate. As i really think he was just a rich kid with the equipment and not this great strategist.
that we have been lied to about as Riley's avatar.
Either riley admits he hired an avatar. Or a guy he wanted to be an avatar and they had a spat. leading to differences that created. why spo never used any resources to change a dynamic. When said dynamic was obvious in x's and o's and on actual film.
to be surveyed, procured, acknowledged and used to institute change in a winning effort.

Instead all we got was bullshyt.

Which is more of the same ignorant corporate bullshyt jockey fight.
That leads to nuffin but an ignorant public showcase. Covered up by paid for pr and marketing. Then still never fixed or readdressed as well. Only to still be apparent the next time some wind fall of circumstance leads to change.
outside of the supposed way it is supposed to go in America just because.


Art Barr

Spo grew up in the NBA (his dad worked for the Blazers) and was a pretty decent D1 point guard in the WCC and played a couple years in Europe. Miami hired him away from a player-coach gig in Europe off of the strength of his own resume and his NBA pedigree. Calling him "just a rich kid with the equipment" like he was some Coli poster is wack.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Let's look at the averages in the Finals for the guys you're trumpeting.

Herro - shot 37% in the Finals
Bam - played 4 games, the last three clearly hobbled and put up a bunch of garbage time stats in game six to boost his averages to 15/6...eerily similar to Mozzy's 14.5/7 in 2015.
Robinson - great three point shooter. Hit about 40/40% in the Finals.
Crowder - The same guy who got shipped out of Cleveland in 2018. You're not propping up his 33% three point shooting.
Nunn - Played well during most of his minutes.

You missed Olynyk averaging 12 and 6 on 49/41/85 shooting as a very effective court-spacing 5 backing up Bam. Olynyk + Bam >>> Mosgov.

Now let's do the same for Cleveland.

Shump - shot 25% in the Finals and said afterwards that he was playing hurt and couldn't lift his arm above his shoulder all series
Mosgov - yes put up the same stats as Bam but was getting ran off the court on the defensive end due to Golden State's small ball lineups
JR - shot 31% in the Finals and 29% from three
TT - hustle guy but no range so yes, Crowder's 3pt shooting spaced the floor for Jimmy MUCH more than TT did
Delly - shot 28% in the Finals and 23% from three, was completely ineffective after he got hospitalized in Game 3
James Jones - shot 31% in the Finals and 30% from three and massive defensive liability


Someone gotta find the graphic that was posted where Cleveland's shooters went 2-37 or some shyt on shots that weren't off passes from Bron.

You tried to paint Miami's supporting cast as "unimpressive", but Cleveland's supporting cast was ASS.


2020 Miami had FIVE different players shoot 37-41% from 3pt, plus Crowder at 33%. 2015 Cleveland had NO ONE shoot better than 32% from 3pt. Tristan's 10ppg were 4th on the Cavs, while Miami had 7 different guys average 10.5ppg or better. Herro and Nunn were creating their own shots for themselves, while literally NO ONE on the Cavs other than Bron could create a shot in 2015.

The supporting casts ain't even comparable, they're night and day.

 

[sfgiants]

Funny how curry stans try to push curry. Everyone knows that KD led those teams to the title

So you’re saying a run of the mill sidekick has a higher PPG average in the NBA finals than kobe?
and clearly Shaq was leading the Lakers to that dynasty run right? 3 finals mvps in a row CLEARLY shows that, right? Same with kd and Steph?? Kobe and Steph both side kicks but Steph has 2 league mvps and the same number of finals mvps through 3 titles?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Man, stop this shyt. Nobody blames LeBron for losing in 2015. He almost won Finals MVP for godsakes.

So neither you nor anyone else has ever criticized Bron for have 6 Finals losses.

If you're holding 6 Finals losses against him, then yes, you ARE blaming him for losing dumbass.

 

[ghostwriterx]

You missed Olynyk averaging 12 and 6 on 49/41/85 shooting as a very effective court-spacing 5 backing up Bam. Olynyk + Bam >>> Mosgov.

Now let's do the same for Cleveland.

Shump - shot 25% in the Finals and said afterwards that he was playing hurt and couldn't lift his arm above his shoulder all series
Mosgov - yes put up the same stats as Bam but was getting ran off the court on the defensive end due to Golden State's small ball lineups
JR - shot 31% in the Finals and 29% from three
TT - hustle guy but no range so yes, Crowder's 3pt shooting spaced the floor for Jimmy MUCH more than TT did
Delly - shot 28% in the Finals and 23% from three, was completely ineffective after he got hospitalized in Game 3
James Jones - shot 31% in the Finals and 30% from three and massive defensive liability


Someone gotta find the graphic that was posted where Cleveland's shooters went 2-37 or some shyt on shots that weren't off passes from Bron.

You tried to paint Miami's supporting cast as "unimpressive", but Cleveland's supporting cast was ASS.


2020 Miami had FIVE different players shoot 37-41% from 3pt, plus Crowder at 33%. 2015 Cleveland had NO ONE shoot better than 32% from 3pt. Tristan's 10ppg were 4th on the Cavs, while Miami had 7 different guys average 10.5ppg or better. Herro and Nunn were creating their own shots for themselves, while literally NO ONE on the Cavs other than Bron could create a shot in 2015.

The supporting casts ain't even comparable, they're night and day.

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JR shot 11% on open 3s.

 

[fifth column]

So neither you nor anyone else has ever criticized Bron for have 6 Finals losses.

If you're holding 6 Finals losses against him, then yes, you ARE blaming him for losing dumbass.

Who gets all the credit for Bron’s 4 chips?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Who gets all the credit for Bron’s 4 chips?

You running away from the original claim with the quickness.


With the new goalposts - should Butler get blamed for the Heat losing or no?

When you're facing ridiculous odds, then YES, you can get credit for winning and less blame for losing, anyone who isn't trying to shytpost on a forum knows that's obvious.

 

[mindgawn]

In 2015?

Bron never spent "most" of his time guarded by Curry in any series, but definitely not in 2015.

Expose the fukk out of yourself brehs.

Naw i didn't. He's the pick and roll king...take ya blinders off. Exposing ya love and foolishness...

You want to live off the iggy thing cause that's a good narrative to paint

 

[Lakerman0834]

So you’re saying a run of the mill sidekick has a higher PPG average in the NBA finals than kobe?
and clearly Shaq was leading the Lakers to that dynasty run right? 3 finals mvps in a row CLEARLY shows that, right? Same with kd and Steph?? Kobe and Steph both side kicks but Steph has 2 league mvps and the same number of finals mvps through 3 titles?

While prime curry busy turning the ball over and getting locked up by love Kobe was taking over finals game at the age of 21.

I guess you think Nash better than Kobe and shaq to since he has 2 mvps to their 1

 

[fifth column]

You running away from the original claim with the quickness.


With the new goalposts - should Butler get blamed for the Heat losing or no?

When you're facing ridiculous odds, then YES, you can get credit for winning and less blame for losing, anyone who isn't trying to shytpost on a forum knows that's obvious.

Can’t have all the good with no bad

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Well again they played head to head healthy in 2016 and curry lost. KD came and crushed the building. He was the difference vs cavs hence why he was 2 time FMVP and was the best player on that team no matter how you want to cut it

Curry wasn’t 100% healthy in 2016 playoffs

 

[Jalether]

How you just going to revise history like this, my bro?

The Asterisk talk was the dominant talking point when the Warriors won. I remember, vividly, because I was arguing with cats about it.

Exactly

even Doc rivers joined in on the hating

Doc Rivers: Warriors lucky they didn't face Clippers or Spurs

 

[sfgiants]

While prime curry busy turning the ball over and getting locked up by love Kobe was taking over finals game at the age of 21.

I guess you think Nash better than Kobe and shaq to since he has 2 mvps to their 1

kobe averaged 15.6 ppg in the finals in 2000
36% fg
20% from 3

you could’ve plugged in Harrison Barnes into that slot and the Lakers win, because the leader and best player on the team was carrying the franchise with 38ppg and 16.7 rebounds

austin Croshere averaged more points per game that series. Oh that was different right? Shaq winning 3 straight finals mvps DOESNT mean he was the best player on the team. Right?

 

[Shadow King]

Bro Holiday and Conley both only missed one game in those respective series. The fukk are you talking about dude.

And were hobbled, the same excuse Curry was getting next year despite playing. Or does playing injured not matter now?

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

And were hobbled, the same excuse Curry was getting next year despite playing. Or does playing injured not matter now?

Ok so both the 2016 and 2020 rings Bron have are invalidated. Your words, not mines