Why is Jesus blasphemed but no other religion's figure is?

[invalid]

Did Aisha lie when she said a verse was eaten by a sheep?

Amongst hundred years of Islamic scholarly works the consensus is the hadith that you insist on being true is a false one for naysayers to discredit the Quran.

So basically Aisha, the Mother of Believers, was a liar.

But some of the teachers of religious law who were sitting there thought to themselves, “What is he saying? This is blasphemy! Only God can forgive sins!”
Jesus knew immediately what they were thinking, so he asked them, “Why do you question this in your hearts?

Verse also conveys Christ’s omniscience, knowing what was in their hearts - a divine attribute.

 

[invalid]

In one of the verses you quoted he says he is the son of man

“Son of Man” wasn’t some humble title. He was quoting a prophecy in Daniel which he was attributing eternal dominion over creation to himself. Who but God has eternal dominion over creation? And why did the “Ancient of Days” give eternal dominion over creation to another actor?

13 “I saw in the night visions,

and (A)behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the (B)Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.
14 (C)And to him was given dominion
and glory and a kingdom,
that all (D)peoples, nations, and languages
should serve him;
(E)his dominion is an everlasting dominion,
which shall not pass away,
and his kingdom one
that shall not be destroyed.

 

[invalid]

Getting back to the thread topic, we can also talk about the hypocrisy of black Christians with respect to blaspheming Christ.

You have one one hand, everyone in an uproar about Lil Nas X twerking on Satan, but have no smoke for Future..

She called me Messiah, the way I floated in her ocean
Yelled, "Jesus Christ," but I wasn't causin' commotion
Hit it so right, had her soakin' in the ocean, yeah

Or Meek Mill..

Now there's a lot of bad bytches in the building (Amen)
A couple real nikkas in the building (Amen)
I'm finna kill nikkas in the building (Amen)
I tell the waiter fifty bottles and she tell me say when
And I say church (Preach)
We make it light up like a church (Preach)
She wanna fukk and I say church (Preach)
Do Liv on Sunday like a church (Preach)

Black Christians so hypocritical that I don’t even take them serious most of the times.

 

[L@CaT]

Christ is the only one Blasphemed because he’s the only who technically can be blasphemed because he is God in the flesh.

You cannot blaspheme prophets. Muhammad bring the ultimate false prophet and Islam being the religion of Satan.

Non Messianic Jews and Muslims really arguing about their place in hell

 

[LuuqMaan]

So basically Aisha, the Mother of Believers, was a liar.

Biographical evaluation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Koichos]

It was a dead language and was only used in religious settings similar to Coptic Egyptian and Latin.
It was revived in the 19th Century using Arabic and some other languages.

Hebrew has never been a 'dead' language. As I have written before,

Koichos said:
I have in my possession a collection of rather personal letters, all written in pure (if somewhat colloquial) Hebrew, between my great-grandfather (who was born in Y'rusholayim in ה׳תרנ״ו or 5656/1896) and various other people (many of whom I have no clue who they may have been!!) including his father (born in ה׳תרכ״ז or 5627/1867) and dated between ה׳תרע״ג or 5627/1913 and ה׳תרצ״ד or 5694/1934.

Now, although my great-great-grandfather was a native speaker of Hebrew, he was not born in Y'rusholayim (he made ʿaliyyoh with his family in ה׳תרל״ז or 5637/1877); however his great-great-grandfather-in-law (born in Y'rusholayim in ה׳תקכ״ט or 5529/1769 to a Yamani family) who spoke Hebrew as his first language, was. I can therefore state quite categorically that Hebrew was definitely alive and well at least 250 years ago and being spoken between Jews as the day-to-day language of communication, at the very least, in Y'rusholayim.

Most Muslims don't even know the 7 Noahide laws as we don't read the Old Testament because we see it as corrupted.
Islam is just naturally in accordance with it so a practicing Muslim upholds those 7 laws without even being aware of it.

We do not read the 'Old Testament', either. The twenty-four (not thirty-nine) books of our Holy Scriptures are divided into three major sections (thus the acronym T'na"ch), which are composed entirely in Hebrew—apart from the two words יְגַר שָׂהֲדוּתָא in B'reshıth 31:47; the entire verse in Yir'm'yohu 10:11 ('כִּדְנָה תֵּאמְרוּן לְהוֹם, 'אֱלָהַיָּא דִּי־שְׁמַיָּא וְאַרְקָא לָא עֲבַדוּ יֵאבַדוּ מֵאַרְעָא וּמִן־תְּחוֹת שְׁמַיָּא אֵֽלֶּה); the section extending from the words מַלְכָּא לְעָלְמִין חֱיִי אֱמַר חֶלְמָא לְעַבְדָךְ וּפִשְׁרָא נְחַוֵּא part-way through the 4th verse of Doniyyeʾl's second chapter to the end of his seventh chapter (2:4b-7:28), and a few isolated passages occurring in ʿAzroʾ-N'hamyoh 4:8-6:8, 7:12-26, which are written in Aramaic.

As a matter of fact, the use of Aramaic roots in poetic texts composed otherwise in Hebrew is found all the way through the Scriptures,

וַיֹּאמַר
ה׳ מִסִּינַי בָּא
וְזָרַח מִשֵּׂעִיר לָמוֹ
הוֹפִיעַ מֵהַר פָּארָן
וְאָתָה מֵרִבְבֹת קֹדֶשׁ
מִימִינוֹ אֵשׁ דָּת לָמוֹ׃​

Then he [i.e., Moshah] said:
'Hashem—from Sinai did He come,
and shone out for them [Yisroʾel] over Seʿir:
He blazed forth from Mount Poʾron
and approached [lit., 'came'] with [some] of the myriads [or 'tens of thousands'] of holy [beings];
from His right hand, a fiery law for them.' (D'vorim 33:2)

In this particular stanza, the Hebrew verb בָּא as well as the Aramaic verb אָתָה (commonly spelled אָתָא) both mean 'he came'. The Torah, however, substitutes the Aramaic form for the second instance to avoid repeating the same word, which always looks clumsy in poetry.

A covenant, promise, pact, agreement, etc always has 2 sides. Both sides must honour the agreement
or it would be null and void.

The Prophet Yir'm'yohu details the renewed בְּרִית (a legal 'agreement' or 'contract'; a 'treaty') in chapters 31 and 32. Bear in mind that the infinitive לְחַדֵּשׁ is 'to renew', and the meaning of the adjective חָדָשׁ [masc.], חֲדָשָׁה [fem.] is 'renewed' rather than 'new'—and so the phrase בְּרִית חֲדָשָׁה in Yir'm'yohu 31:30 denotes a 'renewed agreement' (or 'contract' or 'treaty' or 'covenant') as opposed to a completely new one.

הִנֵּה יָמִים בָּאִים
נְאֻם־ה׳
:וְכָרַתִּי אֶת־בֵּית יִשְׂרָאֵל וְאֶת־בֵּית יְהוּדָה בְּרִית חֲדָשָׁה​

'See, days are coming,'
Hashem declares,
'when I will cut a renewed deal with Béth Yisroʾel and Béth Y'hudhoh.'

This is emphasized by verse 32 where Yir'm'yohu states unambiguously that the terms in which the 'agreement' will be renewed are נָתַתִּי אֶת־תּוֹרָתִי בְּקִרְבָּם 'I have set My Torah among them [lit., 'in their inmost parts']'—that is to say, the terms of the 'agreement' will be unchanged and the 'renewed agreement' will only differ in one respect from the one Hashem made with our ancestors at Mount Horev in the Sinai Desert: we reneged on the first one by failing to perform our obligations under that one; however, we will not repeat that mistake after the agreement has been renewed. The next three verses spell out the difference between that renewed deal (which will take place in the Messianic Age) and the original deal that He 'cut' with us at Mount Horev in the Sinai Desert on a Shovuʿoth morning, 6th Siwon 2448.

לֹא כַבְּרִית אֲשֶׁר כָּרַתִּי אֶת־אֲבוֹתָם
בְּיוֹם הֶחֱזִיקִי בְיָדָם לְהוֹצִיאָם מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרָיִם
אֲשֶׁר־הֵמָּה הֵפֵרוּ אֶת־בְּרִיתִי
וְאָנֹכִי בָּעַלְתִּי בָם
:נְאֻם־ה׳
כִּי זֹאת הַבְּרִית אֲשֶׁר אֶכְרֹת
אֶת־בֵּית יִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֲרֵי הַיָּמִים הָהֵם
נְאֻם־ה׳
נָתַתִּי אֶת־תּוֹרָתִי בְּקִרְבָּם
וְעַל־לִבָּם אֶכְתְּבֶנָּה
וְהָיִיתִי לָהֶם לֵאלֹהִים
:וְהֵמָּה יִהְיוּ־לִי לְעָם
וְלֹא יְלַמְּדוּ עוֹד
אִישׁ אֶת־רֵעֵהוּ וְאִישׁ אֶת־אָחִיו לֵאמֹר
דְּעוּ אֶת־ה׳
כִּי־כוּלָּם יֵדְעוּ אוֹתִי
לְמִקְּטַנָּם וְעַד־גְּדוֹלָם
נְאֻם־ה׳
כִּי אֶסְלַח לַעֲוֺנָם
:וּלְחַטָּאתָם לֹא אֶזְכָּר־עוֹד​

'...it will not be like the deal that I cut with their ancestors
on the day that I grabbed their hands to bring them out of Miss'royim
because they broke that deal,
even though I was a Master over them,'
Hashem declares;
'but this is the deal that I will cut
with Béth Yisroʾel after those days,'
Hashem declares:
'I will inscribe My Torah [that] I have put among them
onto their hearts;
[then,] I will become an ʾAlohim for them,
and they will become a people for Me.
Moreover, they will no longer teach
one to the other and each man to his brother
'Know Hashem;'
for they will all know Me
from the least to the greatest of them—'
Hashem declares,
'I will forgive their wrongdoings
and their sins I will no longer recall!' (Yir'm'yohu 31:31-33)

When Hashem renews His 'deal' with Yisroʾel in the Messianic Age, there will be one (and only one) difference between that 'renewed' deal that He will renew in the time of the King-Moshiyah (sha-yih'yah bi-m'héroh b'yoménu ʾomén!) and the original deal that He 'cut' with us at Horev; and the verses quoted spell out what that difference will be. The Creator tells us through Yir'm'yohu that we reneged on that deal, but we will not do so in respect of the renewed one (one that entails the same God, the same Torah, and the same Nation).

Consider the following verse, which is part of the Haf'ṭoroh (public reading from the N'viʾim) for the second day of Roʾsh Hashonoh:

:עוֹד תִּטְּעִי כְרָמִים בְּהָרֵי שֹׁמְרוֹן נָטְעוּ נֹטְעִים וְחִלֵּלוּ​

Yet again will you plant vineyards on the mountains of Shom'ron, indeed planters shall plant [them] and redeem [them]. (Yir'm'yohu 31:4)

This chapter refers to Yisroʾel and her exiled descendants, those who can plant vineyards in Shom'ron, just as Jews are doing today and will be doing into the future. The noch'rim never did this before and, thus, the עוֹד 'yet again' excludes them from Yir'm'yohu's prophecy.

They never asked God to forgive them for supporting the alleged crucifixion of the Messiah.

Perhaps you are not aware of the etymological (i.e., linguistic) relationship between the words moshiy'ah ('[a] messiah') and mi-sh'hath ('anointment of...') in the phrase shaman mi-sh'hath qodhash ('Oil of Anointment of Sanctity', which occurs twice in Sh'moth 30:25 and again in Sh'moth 30:31), which forges a clear and direct link between the 'Messiah' (an anointed king) and the very specific compound of olive oil and spices ('Oil of Anointment of Holiness') that our Teacher Moshah was ordered in Sh'moth 30:22-25 to make personally (i.e., he was not to delegate the task to an assistant), which was to last 'for all our generations' (ibid., 30:31), and which was never to be duplicated ever again by anyone else (30:32-33). Thus, no special 'anointing oil'—no 'anointment'—no 'messiah'; it is as simple as that.

The word 'messiah' is merely a transliteration into Roman characters of the Greek word messias, itself a transliteration of the Aramaic word m'shihoʾ which is a direct cognate of the Hebrew moshiy'ah (which is derived from the root to smear and connected with the act of m'shihoh, 'smearing'). Tell me: when was the phony imposter ever moshu'ah 'smeared' with the spiced shaman mi-sh'hath-qodhash 'smearing of sanctity oil', in a particular manner by a recognized Jewish prophet in accordance with the instructions in Sh'moth 30:22-33 (this is where Mattaʾi 26:7, Markus 14:3, Luqos 7:37, Yohonon 12:3 fail) to become ha-malach ha-moshiy'ah ('the King-Messiah')?

I know there's no anti-Messiah in Jewish tradition but my point was that there was no the reward for stopping
this man of ""great evil"" who managed to trick billions of people over 2000 years.

This puts me in mind of the somewhat coarse aphorism that one should eat feces on the basis that a billion flies cannot all be wrong.

Instead of a reward, Jerusalem
was sacked and its people scattered. That doesn't make any sense. If he was an evil magician who blasphemed
against God defeating him should've brought some sort of blessing because clearly he was charismatic enough
to touch billions of souls. Instead it looks like the people were punished which was the point of my
comment.

I wonder how many people have ever noticed that the word נֵס 'a miracle' has the same root as the verb לְנַסּוֹת 'to test' (see B'réshıth 22:1, where נִסָּה is used in connection with 'testing'); miracles, therefore, are directly connected through the language used with 'tests of faith'.

If I remember correctly, there were
multiple Prophets alive at the time and some that came after.
Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Obadiah, Joel, etc.

Doniyyeʾl is not a 'prophet': his book is one of the K'thuvim ('[Other] Writings') rather than the N'viʾim ('Prophetic [Books]'); he is never referred to as דָּנִיֵּאל הַנָּבִיא Doniyyeʾl ha-Noviʾ ('Doniyyeʾl the Prophet'); and he never uses expressions like כֹּה אָמַר ה׳ koh ʾomar ʾadhonoy ('So says Hashem...'), נְאֻם ה׳ nʾum ʾadhonoy ('Hashem's declaration...') or הָיְתָה עָלַי יַד ה׳ ho-y'thoh ʿolai yadh ʾadhonoy ('Hashem's power came over me') like the Prophets used—nor does he ever speak directly in the Creator's Name. Finally, and most telling of all, nowhere in his Book do we find a single exhortation to Jewish repentance, which is the true purpose and function of a Jewish 'prophet' (who, by the way, is not just a person who makes 'predictions' of the future)—a 'spokesperson' whose function is to correct the people's behavior.

If the age of Prophecy was over it would explicitly be mentioned by God multiple times and He would
send a major Prophet to end it not a minor Prophet like Malachi who's identity is obscure (PBUT).

Prophecy was removed from the world because of the prayers of the ʾan'shei k'nasath ha-ğ'dholoh, the 'legislative assembly' of Yisroʾel and the direct descendants of the original Seventy Scholars that Moshah was commanded by the Creator to assemble in the desert; they flourished at the beginning of the Second Temple Period and were responsible for the codification of the twenty-four books of T'na"ch.

Us Muslims do not read or believe in your scriptures since we believe that they are corrupt.

And that is precisely why Islam =/= Noahitism; because the Ramba"m's שְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר עִקָּרִים are also mandatory for a בֶּן־נֹחַ to accept, too.

 

[NoCones]

 

[Cuban Pete]

Cause Christians stopped massacring people en masse over some Jesus about 200 years ago, except for a couple of fringe groups in some parts of the world. If the entire Christian world united and regained the same Zealotry of the Crusades the bloodbath would make all the world wars, slavery, the native American genocide and the holocaust look like childs play. In fact Christiany had a major role to play in ALL those things Make no mistake Christianity as an institution has the most bodies in history, with Communism, Nazism, Islam, and plain old Nationalism/Expansionism rounding out the rest but Christianity got Kareem numbers in this murder shyt. Lets not hype them up again I much prefer the lax attitude the flock has now

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Make no mistake Christianity as an institution has the most bodies in history,

That's nowhere near true, breh....

The vast majority of conflicts in recorded history had NOTHING to do with religion at all (less than 8%) and Communism has FAR more bodies than ALL religions in history, combined.​

 

[Cuban Pete]

That's nowhere near true, breh....

The vast majority of conflicts in recorded history had NOTHING to do with religion at all (less than 8%) and Communism has FAR more bodies than ALL religions in history, combined.​

put me on then which is the bloodiest major religion? And by Christianity I mean the whole of it, all wars perpetuated by the Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants. Youre telling me all those wars, rebellions, intrareligious persecutions dont add up to at least 500 million deaths???

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

put me on then which is the bloodiest major religion? And by Christianity I mean the whole of it, all wars perpetuated by the Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants. Youre telling me all those wars, rebellions, intrareligious persecutions dont add up to at least 500 million deaths???

Islam.

Communism racked up 500 milly from China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, and Vietnam in a little over 100 years.

Confucians and Buddhists been at it for a minute, too..........but......less than 8% of ALL wars in recorded history were due to religion.​

 

[Cuban Pete]

Islam.

Communism racked up 500 milly from China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, and Vietnam in a little over 100 years.

Confucians and Buddhists been at it for a minute, too.​

Holy shyt your right those Islam murder stats from a quick google search I gotta stop listening to some of these uber militant brehs smfh

Yea communism and fascism are trash 1a and 1b but damn radical Islam and Jihad blew my fukking mind away they killed 60 million in North Africa through Jihad conquests alone I thought it was the Christians that bodied them

And yea some of those Chinese civil wars are straight up 500 milly dead in 10 years in conflicts they dont even teach us about in school god damn

 

[OfTheCross]

This video made me think



Why does no one ever say Buddha's name in vain?

Allah's?

Why is Muhammad never disrespected?

Because Jesus gave us a Constitution where we have Freedom of Speech and Religion

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Holy shyt your right those Islam murder stats from a quick google search I gotta stop listening to some of these uber militant brehs smfh

Yea communism and fascism are trash 1a and 1b but damn radical Islam and Jihad blew my fukking mind away they killed 60 million in North Africa through Jihad conquests alone I thought it was the Christians that bodied them

And yea some of those Chinese civil wars are straight up 500 milly dead in 10 years in conflicts they dont even teach us about in school god damn

If you remove Islam from the religious total for war, the percentage drops to < 4% from 8%.

Also, don't conflate religious people warring with that percentage since, for instance, Iran and Iraq fought each other, both were Islamic, but the reasons they fought were entirely secular. They both called it a jihad, though.​

 

[Cuban Pete]

If you remove Islam from the religious total for war, the percentage drops to < 4% from 8%.

Also, don't conflate religious people warring with that percentage since, for instance, Iran and Iraq fought each other, both were Islamic, but the reasons they fought were entirely secular. They both called it a jihad, though.​

No your right entirely we cant call wars between European nations Christian conflicts anymore than than we can call those wars Muslim wars. But I was honestly sure that between the Spanish Reconquista and Inquistion, the Crusades, the Northern Crusades, the Conquest of the Americas, the Puritans, the Christianisation of Europe, Russian Imperial Wars and more that they would be higher than Islam. Guess I was misinformed