If this method worked the hornets would be golden state
They drafted in middle picks and got kemba walker mkg frank the tank and a bunch of nothing else
Drafting is a skill and hinkie was good at it
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If this method worked the hornets would be golden state
They drafted in middle picks and got kemba walker mkg frank the tank and a bunch of nothing else
Drafting is a skill and hinkie was good at it
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Dog, he's not this renowned general manager. I'm not going to say he sucks because he is knowledgeable in analytics and raped teams in trades for picks and drafted some good players. But this guy is known for tanking and is admired by NBA draft neckbeards.
He purposefully destroyed the core of the team and went through the worst losing stretch in NBA history, tanking is not good for the league, and being so outright about tanking ("Trust The Process") likely has him blackballed in the league.
He purposefully destroyed the core of the team and went through the worst losing stretch in NBA history, tanking is not good for the league, and being so outright about tanking ("Trust The Process") likely has him blackballed in the league.
@Swagnificent would rather role with Lagos Allen and Evan turner then embid fultz and simmons
Exactly. And that is how it should be.
Why should every team be able to build a contender easily? It should be hard. It should require some luck.
All you clowns advocating for tanking are basically wanting a quick fix. You want to treat reality like a video game. You want to think you can turn any bad team into a contender in a few years.
That is not how reality works. Building a championship team from nothing should be hard. It should require some luck. It shouldn't be easy. And not everyone should be able to do it.
You fukkin idiots. How hard is it to get this?
Obviously I would take Embiid, Fultz, and Simmons. I've said many times I do this shyt all the time in NBA 2K. Tanking for draft picks is not hard.
My argument against this crap is more systemic than it is about the future of a single team. Tanking as a philosphy is detrimental to the NBA.
I'll switch the question around on you:
Do you want an NBA with 10-12 teams doing what the Sixers did? Do you want an NBA in which a third of the league is intentionally gutting their rosters, refusing to sign free agents, and trying to lose to get a higher draft pick?
Sure if only one team is tanking, like the free rider problem they can make out like bandits. But I'm looking at this from a systemic perspective. And from a systemic NBA perspective tanking is destructive to the competitive balance of the league.
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Ever heard of making your own luck?
You've been riding for Tatum and Ball, well how do you get those guys?
Never thought id say it but @Swagnificent is 100% correct in this thread
The only thing "genius" about Hinkie is his ability to brand the name "The Process" and get people to swallow it. Y'all are really declaring victory over an injury prone big man with foot problems and 2 rookies who have played zero minutes combined.
Neither of them are even close to a lock but we're acting like they've already paid off smh
The only thing "genius" about Hinkie is his ability to brand the name "The Process" and get people to swallow it. Y'all are really declaring victory over an injury prone big man with foot problems and 2 rookies who have played zero minutes combined.
Neither of them are even close to a lock but we're acting like they've already paid off smh
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Exactly if it was as easy as nba 2k you trade a bunch of picks for them and get so many gm upgrades so nobody gets hurt and you can make d wade your head coach and win a title in a year
It's not 2k but yeah so what? You can win playoff series wih just effective pick and roll and a moderate zone if you play it that way but that's why the league works off talent consolidation and chemistry. You said it's a loop hole hinkie exploited well a loop hole is how Kevin Durant ended up with the he warriors. Luck is apart of all of sports but figuring out how to win despite what the rules say is legal and illegal is strategy that's why the rules change ever few years to stop one thing but you can't stop everything. Spurs tanked for Duncan, blazers and sonic tanked for Durant/down
Cavs tanked for Lebron and then were rewarded despite terrible gm work after he left wih three more first round picks. What made what the cavs did with three number one picks better then the sixers? Nothing except sixer let it be known it would be a few bad years but he goal was to get elite talent drafted and then getting titles
Celtics are doing the same thing except they have a great coach and found good talent and got to surpass the rank plus they fleeced brooklyn
Its like talking to a wall.
Look the issue here isn't what good for the Sixers or any one team. Obviously If I owned the Sixers and was in their position in 2012, I would have done the same thing. You guys are looking at this from a micro perspective (aka what is good for one team; in this scenario the Sixers). I'm looking at this issue from a macro perspective. You are looking at this from the perspective of what is good for the Sixers or any other bad team. I'm looking at this from the perspective of what is good for the league as a whole.
As a fan of the NBA, tanking is detrimental to the overall health of the league. It would destroy competitive balance and would also destroy the quality of product we see night in and night out. Imagine if 12 teams did what the Sixers did for a season? Can you imagine how bad that would be for the league?
Stop looking at this issue from the perspective of a Sixers fan. Instead look at it from the perspective of an NBA fan. What the Sixers did was detrimental to the overall product of the NBA. And if it continued or expanded, it would destroy the league.
I don't know why it's hard for you to understand the concept that intentionally trying to lose in a business built on competition is a bad idea.
Stop looking at this from the perspective of what is good for Philly. Look at it from the perspective of what is good for the league. Tanking is detrimental to the overall health and future of the NBA. That is why it's unacceptable.
And for the record, the Sixers do not have the best core in the NBA. We have yet to see if Fultz and Simmons are any good. And we haven't seen anything from Embiid to make us think he can stay healthy for an entire season. Sixers right now could just as likely be fool's good as being the best young core in the league.
The only young cores that looks legit right now are the Timberwolves and Bucks. Their guys have actually played and are performing at an elite level. And they look like future contenders.
You're right that teams have tanked before. But only for one year. For example the Cavs tanked in 2010 after LeBron left them. They let go of vets like Mo Williams. What made the Sixers shyt unprecedented and flagrant is it was not a one year tank, it was a multi-year attempt to exploit loopholes in the rules.
I have no problem with a strategy like the Suns or Lakers had last year where once it's clear they are not making the playoffs, the sit the vets and play the young guys to give them experience but to also better their chances in the lottery. But doing what Philly did where you strip the whole roster apart for several years and fill it with nothing but NBDL players in an effort to accumulate many high first round picks is detrimental to the sport as a whole.
Once again I only ask you to imagine an NBA in which 10-12 teams tried this every year. How damaging would that be to the overall product of the NBA?
Stop looking at this from a micro perspective aka what is good for the Sixers. I have said many times the tanking strategy obviously is good for a team like the Sixers. But from a macro perspective aka the overall health of the league, strategies like tanking are incredibly damaging. And if unchecked might destroy the league entirely.
In a sport where competitive balance is important, you can't have half the league trying to lose. Cause if that happens, it destroys the league as a whole.
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Thinking with the interests of the league is why teams like the Raps are fukked in the first place. Competing to be the #2 and pooling everything into that is stupid. Now maybe the 6ers did try to lose as much as possible and were an embarrassment to basketball. Maybe they had very little talent whatsoever. The sales don't become an issue just because of things like that, other teams have practiced this. The main issue to me is other teams dont have the same situation with more interesting sports franchises in the same city or they might be a bigger market, or they might just be used to being very bad at basketball (Knicks, Nets, Kings, Magic, they fit one of these two situations)
Just because Philly's fanbase didn't buy seats through the tanking over buying Eagles or Steelers (or Flyers) tickets and they felt like they deserved more than sub 10 win seasons, doesn't mean Philly shouldn't be allowed to tank.