"Why you fukking me but not helping"?....you see me doing bad but don't wanna help"

Deafheaven

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She’s not wrong.
And yes I know I’m on a male forum and ya’ll want women to give up everything and expect nothing in return.:comeon:p*ssy, money, submission and don’t want women to ask or expect shyt outta you except dikk and side chicks.:comeon:

But yes. Her mentality is 100% correct. The problem is her not being proactive and matching her actions to her mentality. She should have had this passionate epiphany BEFORE she fukked him.
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I have personally only had sex with three black men my entire life. And I knew each of them for more than 4 years of was in a serious relationship with 2 out of the 3 before I ever became intimate with them. Never had an STD, never had an OOW baby. In fact NOBODY in my family on my dad or mother side ever has.

Why?
Not because I’m stuck up.
Not because I’m unrealistic.
Not because I’m trying to shyt test men or play games or any other dumb shyt men say to get women to give up p*ssy easy.

Its because my p*ssy won’t even work if you don’t or can’t demonstrate that you give a damn about me as a person.:russ: It’s that simple. I love myself too much to allow a sorry nikka to try and finesse me into getting a few wack strokes but can’t be there for me when I need someone.

Why the fukk would sex even be in the equation with a man who doesn’t care about if I’m hungry or need help, or a kind word in my time of need? Who don’t even care if I make it home safely?

If you don’t like me as a person, a friend, a human being, then the last place you need to be is between my legs.:yeshrug:And I don’t give a fukk if that makes you mad. Fukk you. It’s my body and my life that I have to look out for.

All that sex no strings attached and “just fukking” shyt will never be the move for me as a woman because I could care less about how fine you are, how long your dikk is or your stroke game. My p*ssy won’t even let you in if you don’t treat the woman attached to her with kindness, respect, care, romance, and love. I’ve tried this shyt before. I know what it’s like to get horny and be like “lemme try the dikk out”. But It don’t work for me and the sex isn’t even satisfying. I’m not set up to just fukk people I don’t care about who don’t care about me. And hell I don’t even need a dude to pay rent so it ain’t even about that with me. I stay blessed, but I STILL don’t want just sex with a man. Sex divorced from genuine connection is worthless. A dude’s dikk has about as much value as penny with a hole in it outside of the context of his value as a human being, friend, mutual support system that I can love and be loved by and court mutually.

Women don’t realize, you don’t have to be the finest thing in the world to apply this mentality to your life. All you gotta do is love yourself. That’s how a woman can avoid these types of Ls. And that’s why you keep seeing women in these situations. Because life has beaten them down so much that they haven’t cultivated self love.

Now as for men:comeon::comeon::comeon: When some of you hypocrites start pearl clutching about OOW rates, here’s what you need to realize. Ya’ll start this shyt by looking for unstable, low self-esteem chicks in dire straights to get easy p*ssy from. MANY of you clown women with standards, get mad at women who don’t give up p*ssy easy, say they playing games. But when the consequences of messing around with chicks like these come full circle, you wanna avoid accountability. THESE are the chicks some of ya’ll love to fukk with so much.

They’ll suck your dikk for next to nothing. These are the pick mes that some like to brag about. The side chicks ya’ll love dogging out. And when these unstable bytches have a trap baby and get these sorry dudes giving up 70% of their checks for child support, THEN it’s a problem. These are the baby mamas having black babies in dire situations. So while you looking at her, also save some hypocritical finger pointing for the sorry nikkas with low self-esteem who see she in a bad place and are still willing to use her for a nut, because he feels so broken as a man that the only thing he got is dikk and broken promises to offer somebody.
That nut he leaving behind due to him not valuing himself or his legacy is being left to a broken female vessel. That nut is just another black baby aborted or another black baby that goes on to be raised in a broken home while the rest of black men and women with sense refuse to have kids at all.

Stop fooling yourself. Ain’t no chick just down to allow you to use her sexually because your dikk is sooo amazing. :mjlol:She trying to leverage sex for love and emotional connection. She’s alone and wants love and affection and is hoping for some type of Full Metal Alchemist type transmutation of a bussdown situation becoming a family dynamic.

Dudes know this shyt and just keep leaving nuts behind in these types of chicks raw and everybody in the equation wrong as hell.

If it’s too long to read, I don’t give a fukk. Skip it. If it makes you mad, fukk yo feelings. If I’m talking about you then tighten up instead of bytching like a hurt dog hollering whether you the chick with self esteem in the gutter or the man whose only value is in his dikk.

If you don’t do shyt like this then join me on the sidelines and watch this shyt unfold while people try and pretend they don’t know what the hell is really going on.:snooze:

You just wrote a essay saying p*ssy is equivalent to brehs opening up they checkbook. Ya know shyt they actually work for :ld:
 

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Or be intimate with normal men who give a damn about you and don’t just wanna fukk you and bounce?:mjlol:
How did you NOT come to that simple conclusion first?!:russ:

overdosing on the smileys there.

I actually agree with you. Both parties should only deal with folks who give a damn about them. Even if it’s fwb. But expecting bills to be paid and whatever transactional exchanges is thrown out there is where I disagree. But whatever floats their boat.
 

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I want to date adults who are capable to taking care of themselves. At the same time, I am willing to help someone who is doing the right thing. What I mean by that...I want my help to be an investment with a positive outcome. If I know you're on the ball, you're working hard, but you happen to be struggling in an area that I can help you with...I'm more than comfortable with helping because I know it's going to get you where you're going (success) quicker. Once you get there, that unlocks a lot of potential for FUN and drama-free enjoyment, as well as the potential for more long term relationship stuff.

But on the other hand, if I know you aren't doing shyt and are merely floundering from disaster to disaster, I'm not going to get involved because all my investment does is delay the inevitable. If you can't pay your bills because you spend all your money on clothes, or spend all your money on a crazy car note because you got a BMW for the gram instead of a car you can afford...why am I going to help you, or even gravitate to you?
 
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Her statement was why should she keep fukking if he ain’t doing nothing for her. That insinuates she only have p*ssy to offer. What means her p*ssy is everything to her.

If she doesn’t want to get pregnant she should make him wear condoms(I don’t understand why this is even mentioned because it was never brought up in the video).
No it doesnt?! WHAT?!
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Ya’ll goin in circles, trying to make simple shyt more complicated than it actually is.

She should not be fukkin sorry dudes who don’t
care about her. That’s it. I don’t even know why ya’ll lying like you don’t understand exactly what I’m saying.
If somebody only wants you for one thing, should you continue dealing with them if they don’t give a damn about you otherwise? She wants something more than just his dikk. So she shouldn’t fukk dudes who only have dikk to offer her.

What aren’t you getting about this?
 

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overdosing on the smileys there.

I actually agree with you. Both parties should only deal with folks who give a damn about them. Even if it’s fwb. But expecting bills to be paid and whatever transactional exchanges is thrown out there is where I disagree. But whatever floats their boat.
I’m sorry but the absurdity of these responses to some shyt that I thought was common sense had left me reeling. Hence the multiple smilies.

This is shyt my parents taught me decades ago.:russ:I thought these were the basics, but Internet culture strikes again I guess.

And no I don’t think men should get played financially either and if they see a chick only dealing with him for money and then ghosting he shouldn’t be giving up funds for somebody who don’t give a damn about him as a person either.
 

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I want to date adults who are capable to taking care of themselves. At the same time, I am willing to help someone who is doing the right thing. What I mean by that...I want my help to be an investment with a positive outcome. If I know you're on the ball, you're working hard, but you happen to be struggling in an area that I can help you with...I'm more than comfortable with helping because I know it's going to get you where you're going (success) quicker. Once you get there, that unlocks a lot of potential for FUN and drama-free enjoyment, as well as the potential for more long term relationship stuff.

But on the other hand, if I know you aren't doing shyt and are merely floundering from disaster to disaster, I'm not going to get involved because all my investment does is delay the inevitable. If you can't pay your bills because you spend all your money on clothes, or spend all your money on a crazy car note because you got a BMZ for the gram instead of a car you can afford...why am I going to help you, or even gravitate to you?
Completely reasonable. And they should be there for you in return even if you do have ur shyt together because everybody needs someone sometimes.

People trying to normalize user culture.
 

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Why ol girl in here acting like using condoms arent a thing :mjlol:
Because of the low likelihood of condom usage by a chick who trying to have standards for a dude AFTER he fukks instead of before.

If she in a low place trying to leverage sex for affection, love, help, provision—then she is probably desperate enough or in an emotional state to take other sexual risks as well.

These OOW babies ain’t accidents. Can’t be.
 

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No it doesnt?! WHAT?!
:mjlol:
Ya’ll goin in circles, trying to make simple shyt more complicated than it actually is.

She should not be fukkin sorry dudes who don’t
care about her. That’s it. I don’t even know why ya’ll lying like you don’t understand exactly what I’m saying.
If somebody only wants you for one thing, should you continue dealing with them if they don’t give a damn about you otherwise? She wants something more than just his dikk. So she shouldn’t fukk dudes who only have dikk to offer her.

What aren’t you getting about this?
The fukk, that what she said:gucci:

She said why should she be fukking him if she got shyt going on with her that he’s not taking care of.

Nah, I’m done. You either playing stupid or you are. Either way I’m done.:pachaha:
 

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Nope. As a female if I’m going to lay down with you, you need to give a fukk about me. I’ll be damned if I pump artificial hormones in my body, pay for day after pills, take on potential STDs for some wack strokes when most chicks ain’t even being sexually satisfied.

You can preach that dumb shyt other chicks. My father died but I was never fatherless.:camby:This shyt don’t work on me. Hell what you trying to finesse is WORSE than prostitution. At least hoes get paid for the risks they taking. These chicks just getting fukked by dudes that can’t stand them and wearing nut on their faces for free.:deadmanny:

Genuine mutual love and respect or keep your dikk away from me. If we fukking we there for each other. Otherwise we not fukkin. Simple shyt.

The relationship you're describing isn't the same relationship as the one she's describing though which you fail to understand. You are not only conflating her expressing a desire for financial support with her expressing the need for a more meaningful connection, you're also conflating a guy providing financial support with him actually caring for a woman. Guys can put money in (if they have enough of it) without having any regard for you simply as a means of maintaining their access to you or even gaining a modicum of control over you (depending on how tight the bind you're in is) which is what I stated in the first page of the thread.

If you have your financial affairs in order you can pursue a meaningful relationship with someone without creating a sense of dependency on them. You can both have each others back in a mutually fulfilling relationship from all angles. Which is the point. There are relationships for financial commitments. The relationship she's describing isn't one of them. This is just hooking.
 

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Because of the low likelihood of condom usage by a chick who trying to have standards for a dude AFTER he fukks instead of before.

If she in a low place trying to leverage sex for affection, love, help, provision—then she is probably desperate enough or in an emotional state to take other sexual risks as well.

These OOW babies ain’t accidents. Can’t be.

So you basically saying shes too mentally weak to use protection and or messing with idiot men in general who dont wear condoms. And that somehow places some arbitrary value on her genitals?

Im honestly not following your logic here. Where does the personal accountability come in here, on either side.

Yall want to act like women are capable of bejng strong and independent, and they are. But you also make it seem like they make the most retarded deccisions because of feelings and its perfectly fine. You cant have it both ways.
 
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No it doesnt?! WHAT?!
:mjlol:
Ya’ll goin in circles, trying to make simple shyt more complicated than it actually is.

She should not be fukkin sorry dudes who don’t
care about her. That’s it. I don’t even know why ya’ll lying like you don’t understand exactly what I’m saying.
If somebody only wants you for one thing, should you continue dealing with them if they don’t give a damn about you otherwise? She wants something more than just his dikk. So she shouldn’t fukk dudes who only have dikk to offer her.

What aren’t you getting about this?

This isn't the argument at all presented in the OP. These are the facts:

1. A woman and man have sex.
2. The man is doing well financially.
3. The woman is not doing well financially.
4. The man is obligated to help the woman out in some way to better her situation due to the man and woman having sex.

This is entirely an entitled mindset. The very first question should be, why aren't the woman's affairs in order? Follow up question would be, why isn't she able to take care of herself like an adult?

How much of a loser would a man be to be broke and expect a woman to take care of him just because they are having sex? Women are not excluded from this loser status.

To put the final nail in the coffin to your argument, just because someone spends money on a person does not mean they care about them.
 
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