"Why you fukking me but not helping"?....you see me doing bad but don't wanna help"

[Deuterion]

I know you didn't say that. That was the initial point I was making as this is what I initially said: Most women are not looking for mere dikk out of a sexual relationship. 9 times out of 10, a man had to spend some type of money to get to the point of fukking. Hence, "Most women..."

You keep framing it like prostitution when it’s not. When dating...the spending of money is to facilitate the courting process where as with prostitution in he spending of money is directly in exchange for sex. Hence why dates that allow for talking and building attraction are recommended e.g. dinner, drinks and not things like a movie or play.

You have to court women to sex them but you can’t court them without spending money (typically). With prostitution, you skip the court stage and exchange money for sex...you’re confusing that with dating.

 

[born of fire]

on one hand, if your shyt isn’t together you shouldn’t be having sex.

on the other hand, if you have your shyt together you shouldn’t be having sex with someone who doesn’t.

i’m not even gonna bring gender into it. stop fukking broke people and broke people should stop fukking.

 

[AAKing23]

A lot of women think this too...

p*ssy is like currency to them... I'm supposed to change your life, your decisions, because I wanted to fukk.

The only reason they think like this is because men have precipitated this environment by being unreasonably thirsty. The onus is on US MEN to be better.

These posts are

Our thirst as men has caused an effect where women view their p*ssy as a monetary asset, which is why they believe it's all they have to bring to the table in a relationship


It's the escort/prostitute mentality being popularized with alot of these females nowadays who think they're owed the world because they bring used p*ssy to the table which should be a given

If p*ssy was actually an asset it would be a depreciating one, which is why it's unfathomably stupid to go underwater financially trying to save these hoes

 

[The Realist Perspective]

You keep framing it like prostitution when it’s not. When dating...the spending of money is to facilitate the courting process where as with prostitution in he spending of money is directly in exchange for sex. Hence why dates that allow for talking and building attraction are recommended e.g. dinner, drinks and not things like a movie or play.

You have to court women to sex them but you can’t court them without spending money (typically). With prostitution, you skip the court stage and exchange money for sex...you’re confusing that with dating.

I'm not framing it like prostitution breh. I'm just framing it as it is. I never mentioned prostitution.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

Men and women need to think seriously about who they're having sex with. Imagine having casual sex with this woman and getting her pregnant.

What kinda values would she bestow upon your seed? Will she bring men around because they can "help her out"? There are so many other questions I can ask, some of which can't answered unless you take the risk.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

The relationship you're describing isn't the same relationship as the one she's describing though which you fail to understand. You are not only conflating her expressing a desire for financial support with her expressing the need for a more meaningful connection, you're also conflating a guy providing financial support with him actually caring for a woman. Guys can put money in (if they have enough of it) without having any regard for you simply as a means of maintaining their access to you or even gaining a modicum of control over you (depending on how tight the bind you're in is) which is what I stated in the first page of the thread.

If you have your financial affairs in order you can pursue a meaningful relationship with someone without creating a sense of dependency on them. You can both have each others back in a mutually fulfilling relationship from all angles. Which is the point. There are relationships for financial commitments. The relationship she's describing isn't one of them. This is just hooking.

The chick in the OP obviously wants something beyond just sex. So she doesn’t need to have sex with men who only want to have sex with her.

You and others have overcomplicated this because many want to support a culture where they get want they want with minimal effort.

If she was cool with sex for sex, I wouldn’t even care. But obviously she’s not, and expressing that she isn’t so she and any other woman who wants more should move differently with men who care about them.
And of course money doesn’t necessarily equal care, but so do take care of financial needs for those they care about. Some take pride in doing so.

She should get that instead of fukking with a dude who doesn’t give a damn about her...and then crying about him not caring about her.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Men and women need to think seriously about who they're having sex with. Imagine having casual sex with this woman and getting her pregnant.

What kinda values would she bestow upon your seed? Will she bring men around because they can "help her out"? There are so many other questions I can ask, some of which can't answered unless you take the risk.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

By give up everything you mean p*ssy.....

Only thing offered is p*ssy.. Interesting

To many bum bytches their p*ssy is all they have.

 

[MajesticLion]

Bitter medicine.


3x entendre, too

 

[Morose Polymath]

Damn that clip was right on time. I had an issue like this arise with a shorty Ive been dealing with recently.

She tried to make plans for me to help her mount some TVs without asking me to help her out prior. I immediately checked her, said dont make plans for me. I have no problem helping her, just ask a nikka that's all

She said verbatim: "I figured since you're the man I'm fukking, it wouldn't be a problem if I made plans for you. And if I can't then why am I fukking you then "

After that exchange, I fell back from her immediately.

shyt high-key changed my entire perspective of her, and this a woman over 30, with this outdated mentality.

Alot of women think they can use sex as currency instead of acting like decent humans who communicate what their expectations are.

 

[Starski]

The chick in the OP obviously wants something beyond just sex. So she doesn’t need to have sex with men who only want to have sex with her.

You and others have overcomplicated this because many want to support a culture where they get want they want with minimal effort.

If she was cool with sex for sex, I wouldn’t even care. But obviously she’s not, and expressing that she isn’t so she and any other woman who wants more should move differently with men who care about them.
And of course money doesn’t necessarily equal care, but so do take care of financial needs for those they care about. Some take pride in doing so.

She should get that instead of fukking with a dude who doesn’t give a damn about her...and then crying about him not caring about her.

& every obese person in the world wants to loose weight, but actually loosing weight is for people who earn it & not just want it.

So until she ups the standards she has for herself, which will then drive men of a higher caliber towards her, she will get what she has always gotten.

“ I want men to be providers but I continue to fukk men who arnt”

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Coulda woulda shoulda. In the scenario in the OP, they are already sexually active. You can get on your soap box about self esteem...but that is simply not the discussion.

It is the discussion because if it’s already happened she crying trying to change future events.
She trying to move that dude. Who doesn’t care about her. If she doesn’t learn, the Coli will have another thread in a few months. Only it will be another dude.

It’s nothing wrong with wanting sex with someone who gives a damn about you. But it’s just hard to finesse that situation after the fact. Sex doesn’t equal love. If they didn’t demonstrate whether they value you prior to having sex, that ain’t gon change just because you suck a mean dikk.

She’s basically simping with her p*ssy. Dudes give expecting chicks to want them. Chicks fukk expecting dudes to want them.

Both should probably hold off and see if who you are dealing with is actually down for you. But I know how life goes and we all fukk up sometimes. But babygirl needs to move better if she wants to avoid these kinds of Ls in the future.

If you fukkin just to fukk, be in the right headspace. Know it’s just sex and KIM. But if you fukking knowing good and well u want something else, on your back is the last place you should be IMO.

 

[NinoBrown]

Damn that clip was right on time. I had an issue like this arise with a shorty Ive dealing with recently.

She tried to make plans for me to help her mount some TVs without asking me to help her out prior. I immediately checked her said dont make plans for me. I have no problem helping her, just ask a nikka that's all

She said verbatim: "I figured since you're the man I'm fukking, it wouldn't be a problem if I made plans for you. And if I can't then why am I fukking you then "

After that exchange, I fell back from her immediately.

shyt high-key changed my entire perspective of her, and this a woman over 30, with this outdated mentality.

Alot of women think they can use sex as currency instead of acting like decent humans who communicate what their expectations are.

Had that happen with this musician I went on 2 datea with:
Psycho Chick: "Let's go to the movies"
Me: "Cool, I will get the tickets, you get the popcorn?"
Psycho Chick: "You're the man, you should pay for it, I am just a music teacher, you work full-time, you don't know what it is like to be a broke musician"
Me: "????"
Psycho Chick: "All the men I've dated take care of me when we date"
Me: "Well good luck to the next guy, peace"

I didn't smash, but boy did I dodge a big bullet, she was a lunatic....

 

[NO-BadAzz]

City girl mentally, aka Hoe Babbles

What's even sad, notice how she didn't make mention of doing anything to help the man who is fukking on her, but wants him to help her because she fukking him

Last time I checked, it takes two to fukk.

All you bringing to the table is a wet ass, aint to much that I or many men who have their shyt together can do for you if that's the only thing that's on the table for him to work with.


She looks like she can't make a man a better man. How can she make a man more better if she's begging

 

[Malik1time]

@Rozay Oro women are easy as fukk
get yo shyt together and women will flock on your corner
be the best version of yourself and alll the cards will fall on your favor