Wikileaks Vault 7 release

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Back then that was on the higher end of computer literacy.

Most people knew how to use their computers, strong in the software on the computer and able to use them to get what they needed. I consider 4th one people computer literate.

Take a cell phone today. I'd consider a person cell phone literate even if they couldn't replace a broken screen on their S7E if they were able to functionally use it for their day to day task with ease and understanding.
You can change it all you want to fit whatever definition you have.
My point is that most ppl didn't even have a computer or even be online at that point.

Then out of the ppl that even had a computer most of them weren't even computer literate.

This was the start of ppl really getting in to pcs and more importantly the internet.

Younger ppl, and our cohort at the time were more computer savvy, but the average person wasn't even close to be in literat nevermind savvy
 
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You can change it all you want to fit whatever definition you have.
My point is that most ppl didn't even have a computer or even be online at that point.

Then out of the ppl that even had a computer most of them weren't even computer literate.

This was the start of ppl really getting in to pcs and more importantly the internet.

Younger ppl, and our cohort at the time were more co,outer savvy, but the average person wasn't even close to be in literat nevermind savvy
As I said. The things that happened in 97/98:

High speed internet at homes.
Cheaper parts.
Prebuikds from dell.
The bus and chipset change with P2
The voodoo video cards.
The drop in storage from 1000 a GB to around 150GB.

All lead to a more pervasive PC industry leading to more Americans being able to have and afford PCs.

The innovations from that year and the next led to almost a PC a home 3 years later.

That's one issue though.

As I said earlier, it didn't matter if people without computers or access to them were computer literate for their own safety because they weren't using the technology. Those who were, as today, as just as literate per computer owner as they are now.
 

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But this isn't about the NSA. This is about the CIA. Once again, there's no need to conflate two separate agencies and their issues.

Especially since nothing in this dump shows these tools are being used on American citizens.

guns don't kill people. People kill people.
:gucci::snoop:
 

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:wtf: Germany is one of the USA's allies and hosts US bases and troops

WW2 was 72 years ago.

Germany is basically a vassal of our empire.

The German intelligence services had to know the Frankfurt CIA station was a hacking center.


I agree with what you state but its obvious people are trying to cause a rift and that's all I want to address .
 

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All this outrage is pointless if the new administration doesn't do anything about it. :yeshrug:

Gonna stay the status quo :hubie:
 

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Just taking this excerpt describes HL to a tee....



It’s hard to be shocked at this point that the government is spying on its own allies and citizens.

This is just the latest in a pattern of brazen surveillance and flagrant Constitutional violations on the part of the US intelligence community.

But that’s precisely what I find MOST concerning - the LACK of concern over these new CIA documents.

People have such a low expectation of their government now, and have become so accustomed to the government routinely violating their civil liberties, that there’s hardly any public outrage anymore about these spying scandals.

More importantly, the lack of concern is indicative of what freedom means in the Land of the Free today.

Here’s a great example–

Young people are traditionally the most politically charged activists in the country.

But where are the protests across university campuses demanding freedom and privacy?

It’s not happening.

That’s because university students are too busy protesting against ideas they don’t want to hear about.

At Middlebury College last week, a small liberal arts school in Vermont, a small mob of student protestors physically assaulted a conservative speaker because his ideas offended them.

They couldn’t simply skip the lecture and allow interested students to attend.

No, they had to engage in violent censorship, oppressing any idea that doesn’t conform to their narrow agenda.

The only thing these cry bullies are interested in hearing is apologetic white men groveling over their privilege.

This is the new reality in the Land of the Free: freedom has deteriorated into some gender studies professor’s socialist fantasy.

Constitutionally guaranteed liberties have become irrelevant.

Forget about “free speech”.

Any intellectual dissent from the intolerant Social Justice view is now considered “hate speech”.

And the Fourth Amendment, which establishes “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,” has become a distant memory.

As a child who grew up in the 80s during the height of the Cold War, I imagine there would have been widespread disgust if a similar scandal had been exposed.
 

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Just taking this excerpt describes HL to a tee....



It’s hard to be shocked at this point that the government is spying on its own allies and citizens.

This is just the latest in a pattern of brazen surveillance and flagrant Constitutional violations on the part of the US intelligence community.

But that’s precisely what I find MOST concerning - the LACK of concern over these new CIA documents.

People have such a low expectation of their government now, and have become so accustomed to the government routinely violating their civil liberties, that there’s hardly any public outrage anymore about these spying scandals.

More importantly, the lack of concern is indicative of what freedom means in the Land of the Free today.

Here’s a great example–

Young people are traditionally the most politically charged activists in the country.

But where are the protests across university campuses demanding freedom and privacy?

It’s not happening.

That’s because university students are too busy protesting against ideas they don’t want to hear about.

At Middlebury College last week, a small liberal arts school in Vermont, a small mob of student protestors physically assaulted a conservative speaker because his ideas offended them.

They couldn’t simply skip the lecture and allow interested students to attend.

No, they had to engage in violent censorship, oppressing any idea that doesn’t conform to their narrow agenda.

The only thing these cry bullies are interested in hearing is apologetic white men groveling over their privilege.

This is the new reality in the Land of the Free: freedom has deteriorated into some gender studies professor’s socialist fantasy.

Constitutionally guaranteed liberties have become irrelevant.

Forget about “free speech”.

Any intellectual dissent from the intolerant Social Justice view is now considered “hate speech”.

And the Fourth Amendment, which establishes “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,” has become a distant memory.

As a child who grew up in the 80s during the height of the Cold War, I imagine there would have been widespread disgust if a similar scandal had been exposed.
I'm black.

Law enforcement routinely violates our 4th Amendment rights. But I am supposed to be outraged when the CIA is spying on everyone.:mjlol:
I'm supposed to be mad Nazis getting beat up when we got cops killing us with impunity.:hhh:

I have more direct concerns to deal with.:yeshrug:
 

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Just taking this excerpt describes HL to a tee....



It’s hard to be shocked at this point that the government is spying on its own allies and citizens.

This is just the latest in a pattern of brazen surveillance and flagrant Constitutional violations on the part of the US intelligence community.

But that’s precisely what I find MOST concerning - the LACK of concern over these new CIA documents.

People have such a low expectation of their government now, and have become so accustomed to the government routinely violating their civil liberties, that there’s hardly any public outrage anymore about these spying scandals.

More importantly, the lack of concern is indicative of what freedom means in the Land of the Free today.

Here’s a great example–

Young people are traditionally the most politically charged activists in the country.

But where are the protests across university campuses demanding freedom and privacy?

It’s not happening.

That’s because university students are too busy protesting against ideas they don’t want to hear about.

At Middlebury College last week, a small liberal arts school in Vermont, a small mob of student protestors physically assaulted a conservative speaker because his ideas offended them.

They couldn’t simply skip the lecture and allow interested students to attend.

No, they had to engage in violent censorship, oppressing any idea that doesn’t conform to their narrow agenda.

The only thing these cry bullies are interested in hearing is apologetic white men groveling over their privilege.

This is the new reality in the Land of the Free: freedom has deteriorated into some gender studies professor’s socialist fantasy.

Constitutionally guaranteed liberties have become irrelevant.

Forget about “free speech”.

Any intellectual dissent from the intolerant Social Justice view is now considered “hate speech”.

And the Fourth Amendment, which establishes “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,” has become a distant memory.

As a child who grew up in the 80s during the height of the Cold War, I imagine there would have been widespread disgust if a similar scandal had been exposed.
Let's pretend that these documents released so far show a violation of constitutional rights (they don't yet).

The reality is that I think ideas and issues based in abstractions are much harder to coalesce support around than social issues or something that has direct and very visible consequences like terrorist attacks.

These issues requires people to be knowledgeable to begin with of their constitutional rights beginning with the fourth. At this point this is suprisingly lacking in the general population. Then you need to have enough people to have enough foresight that incrementally violating those rights will lead to abuses in the future. You can see this is a hard gap to close when you hear arguments such as "well I don't have anything to hide".

Sadly you won't see mass protests on this issue until again something with consequences and visible happens because of it. Such as everyone's nudes getting leaked lol
 
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